Idiotic anti gun...

[Larry Gude]

That's...

and people who have previously commited a violent crime are likely to commit more vilolent crimes

...amazing. We have a whole crew of folks who see people who break into other peoples homes and steal things as...victims of violent criminals.

 

[AK-74me]

and people who have previously commited a violent crime are likely to commit more vilolent crimes

But after paying their debt to society handed down by our great justice system they no longer have the right to defend themselves in their own homes?

 

[vraiblonde]

...you're furiously searching to find that Taylor assaulted some Girl Scouts instead of the people who stole from him,

AGAIN, and read carefully this time, I would like to see where the guy he beat up was actually the one that stole the ATV. I haven't seen one single news blurb to that effect - they all say that Taylor THOUGHT the guy stole his ATV.

Was the guy arrested and convicted of stealing the ATV?

 

[LordStanley]

"... the National Rifle Association says that, "Guns don't kill people, people do," but I think the gun helps, you know? I think it helps. I just think just standing there going, "Bang!" That's not going to kill too many people, is it? You'd have to be really dodgy on the heart to have that."

- Eddie Izzard

Knives dont just stab by themselves. Cars dont just start up and drive thru a school bus stop full of kids.

 

[tommyjones]

But after paying their debt to society handed down by our great justice system they no longer have the right to defend themselves in their own homes?

or to vote, and in many cases to use drugs or alcohol.

I guess they shouldn't have killed anyone in the first palce.

 

[LordStanley]

AGAIN, and read carefully this time, I would like to see where the guy he beat up was actually the one that stole the ATV. I haven't seen one single news blurb to that effect - they all say that Taylor THOUGHT the guy stole his ATV.

Was the guy arrested and convicted of stealing the ATV?

Whats it like when you two get home?

 

[AK-74me]

Believe me they aren't my statistics, but I do understand what you are saying. I used to do prison and jail ministry and outreach and I heard a lot of people complaining about the issues of not being able to carry a gun or get to vote, but mostly the gun issue. I honestly can't say where I stand as far as giving felons weapons rights again. I would have to say that I saw a lot of people end up right back in jail but it was more from drugs than violent crimes. Then again, do I want somebody on drugs holding a gun either?

Do really think that the kind of person that intends to murder someone worries about what the law says about their gun ownership?

 

[tommyjones]

...amazing. We have a whole crew of folks who see people who break into other peoples homes and steal things as...victims of violent criminals.

now there is some serious selective comprehension

good for you

 

[vraiblonde]

Gee look at that, Vrai took the words someone stated out of context, kinda like your hero Rudi did during the Republican Debate. He learned you well.

Oh look! Realizes he looks like an idiot when someone quotes his EXACT words, so now he wants to change the subject.

How cute is that?

 

[tommyjones]

Do really think that the kind of person that intends to murder someone worries about what the law says about their gun ownership?

and here is the reason that felons cant own guns and why parolees are subject to what would normally be considered unreasonable searches.


if you catch a felon with a gun he goes back to jail, we dont need to catch him in the act, the fact that he is breaking the gun possesion law is enough to put his sorry azz back in the can.....

 

[Larry Gude]

I don't...

AGAIN, and read carefully this time, I would like to see where the guy he beat up was actually the one that stole the ATV. I haven't seen one single news blurb to that effect - they all say that Taylor THOUGHT the guy stole his ATV.

Was the guy arrested and convicted of stealing the ATV?

...know as an absolute fact. It is how I remember it. I guess I'll just have to go look it up seeings how my memory of the case is not good enough for you.

Before I bother, if Shawn beat up and yelled at AND waved a gun in their general direction of the people who ACTUALLY stole from him, would it change your opinion or would it be a waste of my time?

 

[tommyjones]

Oh look! Realizes he looks like an idiot when someone quotes his EXACT words, so now he wants to change the subject.

How cute is that?

ask larry

 

[vegmom]

Knives dont just stab by themselves. Cars dont just start up and drive thru a school bus stop full of kids.

But you can't chop vegetables with a gun can you?

 

[AK-74me]

I guess they shouldn't have killed anyone in the first palce.

Look, I will tell you for the last time I would kill all murderers before they had a chance to get out of jail.

No one should have the right taken away from them to defend themselves as long as they are living out in society.

 

[Larry Gude]

Shawn...

now there is some serious selective comprehension

good for you

...yelled at and hit and waved a gun at people who robbed him. He has no record of any other violence. Besides the football field.

 

[tommyjones]

Look, I will tell you for the last time I would kill all murderers before they had a chance to get out of jail.

No one should have the right taken away from them to defend themselves as long as they are living out in society.

and i will tell you one more time, they shouldn't have killed or raped anyone and they would have equal rights....

 

[LordStanley]

But you can't chop vegetables with a gun can you?

Sure you can. You should see what a 12 guage does to a head of lettuce

 

[vegmom]

Look, I will tell you for the last time I would kill all murderers before they had a chance to get out of jail.

No one should have the right taken away from them to defend themselves as long as they are living out in society.

The catch here is that many criminals who are out on the streets are still on probabtion or on parole. So technically speaking they are still paying said debt, but not as a guest of the state.

 

[AK-74me]

and i will tell you one more time, they shouldn't have killed or raped anyone and they would have equal rights....

I am not talking about murderers getting rights back because I don't want them to be alive in the first place. The point is that once released back into society all people should have the right to defend themselves, period!

 

[Larry Gude]

I understand...

The catch here is that many criminals who are out on the streets are still on probabtion or on parole. So technically speaking they are still paying said debt, but not as a guest of the state.

...that but does that, should that exclude them from having a weapon in their home?