It’s not your fault, it was your training. The Army guys still believe the earth is flat (UTM). The Air Force guys know its not since they can see over the hill before they crest it. 
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It’s not your fault, it was your training. The Army guys still believe the earth is flat (UTM). The Air Force guys know its not since they can see over the hill before they crest it. 
Midnightrider
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Nope. It screams weird and gay, but not pedo.
Yooper
Up. Identified. Lase. Fire. On the way.
LOL. My favorite Uncle was my fathers best friend ...they both graduated from VMI. He (my uncle) went on to be an artillery ossifer in Germany back in the 60s..said he'd mapped and scoped about every square meter of the territory to cover it with artillery. Pretty sure they considered it mostly "flat".It's not?
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My father..on the other hand...found out the hard way how combustion-engined helicopters operating in the Greenland arctic can fail rather suddenly. July...1958.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/laurence-tribe-donald-trump-impeachment-inquiry-082721518.html
Harvard Law Professor: ‘More Than Enough Evidence Now’ Against Trump
Harvard constitutional law professor Laurence Tribe on Thursday warned “the United States of America is in real danger” as he broke down the latest developments in the impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump.
“We’ve got a president who is willing to compromise our national security by hurting a country that is a buffer zone between an expanding Russia and the NATO alliance by undermining the Ukraine,” Tribe told CNN’s Anderson Cooper about the ongoing fallout from Trump’s July phone call with Ukraine’s President in which he requested his counterpart dig up dirt on potential Democratic 2020 rival Joe Biden allegedly in exchange for the release of military aid.
“There’s more than enough evidence now to conclude that this president has committed what the framers would have regarded as grave high crimes and misdemeanors, including one that is named in the Constitution, namely bribery,” he later added.
“I mean that’s a bribe, it’s extortion,” said Tribe. “It’s clearly an abuse of power, it’s a betrayal of trust, it’s a high crime and misdemeanor and it’s about time that we brought this all to an end.”
Harvard Law Professor: ‘More Than Enough Evidence Now’ Against Trump
Harvard constitutional law professor Laurence Tribe on Thursday warned “the United States of America is in real danger” as he broke down the latest developments in the impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump.
“We’ve got a president who is willing to compromise our national security by hurting a country that is a buffer zone between an expanding Russia and the NATO alliance by undermining the Ukraine,” Tribe told CNN’s Anderson Cooper about the ongoing fallout from Trump’s July phone call with Ukraine’s President in which he requested his counterpart dig up dirt on potential Democratic 2020 rival Joe Biden allegedly in exchange for the release of military aid.
“There’s more than enough evidence now to conclude that this president has committed what the framers would have regarded as grave high crimes and misdemeanors, including one that is named in the Constitution, namely bribery,” he later added.
“I mean that’s a bribe, it’s extortion,” said Tribe. “It’s clearly an abuse of power, it’s a betrayal of trust, it’s a high crime and misdemeanor and it’s about time that we brought this all to an end.”
One word in the middle of all that opinion piece is "allegedly ". Until that word is replaced by "definitely" and proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, this guy has as much credibility as Adam Shift telling his fairy tales. See, our laws don't work that way, as much as you lefties think they do. The court of public opinion has no bearing on guilt and innocence.
PsyOps
Pixelated
In sworn testimony, if you change your story, that's called perjury. One of his stories is a lie. You tell me... which is it? Why isn't he being charged with perjury? Well, it's obvious. He changed his story in Schiff's favor. How convenient.
With democrats running such a dishonest "inquiry" (with the biggest liar at the helm), it's hard for me to believe Sondland just came to some reality that he forgot before. Here is a text message Sondland wrote to Taylor BTW...
"The President has been crystal clear no quid pro quo's of any kind. The President is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly going to adopt the transparency and reforms that President Zelensky promised during his campaign,"
So, we have actual record of him stating, quite adamantly, that Trump said no quid pro quo. But, his recollection (nothing that can be corroborated in documentation) is the opposite? Come on! really?
Not sure about that. Perjury, in general is
So if a person believed it was true when the initial statement was given, even if added to at a later time, it seems they did not commit perjury.18USC1621 said:
Hijinx
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The guy is a Harvard Constitutional Law Professor.
That's enough for me to know he is a Never-Trumper running off at the mouth.
Just another Commie destroying the minds of our youth.
PsyOps
Pixelated
So, which version does Sondland believe is true? There is a record (a tweet to Taylor) of Sondland stating that Trump said "no quid pro quo". This was his initial testimony. How is it that he didn't know that was the truth at the time, knowing full-well he's record confirming that. Then suddenly has this revelation to the contrary, where there is no record of this?
I'm not buying it.
Midnightrider
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So if you are speeding all you have to do is say ‘let’s be crystal clear, we are not exceeding the speed limit’ and you aren’t speeding any more?
you still haven’t explained what pressure schiff can exert over Sondland. How could schiff compel Sondland to lie?
Midnightrider
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No record? All of the other players have testified to the QPQ. Jennifer Williams, who was at that meeting, testified yesterday and one of pences advisors who was also at that meeting resigned effective today. The house of cards is crumbling.
This_person
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They've been able to testify that they FELT quid pro quo, not that it existed.
But, if we suggest for the purposes of discussion that the quid pro quo existed (despite all evidence to the contrary), so what?
The president asked for an investigation into what appears to be a crime committed by Biden. So, where's the issue against that?
LOL, yet you would be bragging to anyone that would listen if your kid went to Harvard!
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Like your parents brag about you achievments?
MiddleGround
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PsyOps
Pixelated
Yeah, crumbling. Like you believed it was with the Mueller investigation
I was talking specifically about Sondland. His initial testimony, that there was no quid pro quo, was corroborated with his text to Taylor. His 180 testimony has no such corroboration.
PsyOps
Pixelated
I have no idea what your first sentence means.
I have explained it... several times. It's my belief, because of Schiff's overt dishonesty, that the whole thing is a dirty, rotten, stenching pack of lies. As with everything else thrown at Trump, this too will turn out to be nothing. And Schiff will pull another trick out of his barrel of tricks.
FIFY