Isn't This Kinda Cart Before The Horse?

:eyebrow: little bit of a leather fetish, eh?
My current burb is all leather... I seriously prefer cloth seats. If I end up with all leather again I'm going to invest in custom seat covers that let me think my seats are all cloth.
 
My current burb is all leather... I seriously prefer cloth seats. If I end up with all leather again I'm going to invest in custom seat covers that let me think my seats are all cloth.

My Sierra is all leather too. I prefer the leather as it's easier to clean and looks nicer, but it does get sticky in the summer. Doesn't breathe.
 

Chasey_Lane

Salt Life
Both of my vehicles are leather, hubby's is cloth (Jeep), and the convertible is leather. Leather is a must for me!!
 

glhs837

Power with Control
My Sierra is all leather too. I prefer the leather as it's easier to clean and looks nicer, but it does get sticky in the summer. Doesn't breathe.

If you get ventilated seats it does :) Really odd to have your seat blowing cool air up your backside though......
 

DEEKAYPEE8569

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It doesn't take much to figure out who has a better interest rate. I think you've worried yourself into a frenzy over nothing.

Well, that's a learned trait. I'm not blaming anybody; but you would just have to meet my Mom to perhaps partially understand why I do that worry into a frenzy thing.
 

DEEKAYPEE8569

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I submitted a loan application to my bank with a $ "cushion" and received a call from them yesterday, that I missed unfortunately. I'll call back on Monday. "Good news" was part of the message, so at least it sounds promising. If I get the loan, I'll go see what kind of a deal the dealership is willing to make. :fingerscrossed:
 

PeoplesElbow

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I submitted a loan application to my bank with a $ "cushion" and received a call from them yesterday, that I missed unfortunately. I'll call back on Monday. "Good news" was part of the message, so at least it sounds promising. If I get the loan, I'll go see what kind of a deal the dealership is willing to make. :fingerscrossed:

If the estimate on taxes title etc has that much weighing on it, did you ever stop to think maybe I can't really afford this?
 

DEEKAYPEE8569

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If the estimate on taxes title etc has that much weighing on it, did you ever stop to think maybe I can't really afford this?

Nope. The resulting monthly payment stopped me for about a second though. I got the loan; found that out this morning. :yay:
There's wiggle room between the asking price and the MSRP; the MSRP being the amount I applied and was approved for; so I'm going to see how close to the asking price I can get.
Now.....to figure the monthly payment plus a monthly amount to devote to insurance which will most certainly go UP. I know.....call my agent and find out.
I'm waiting for an answer.
 
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DEEKAYPEE8569

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THIS Is New

I received notification that my loan was approved, BUT, the bank wants a purchase order before they will cut me a check. This makes no sense.

If I have a loan for $40K and I finalize a deal @ 25K (Hey dreams are free); that remaining $15K could be used to make payments or pay for insurance, I'd still have to make payments on the $40K as far as the bank is concerned.
I also understand that by not using the full $40K, payments would be lower, so there is one reason; to my benefit; to require a purchase order before granting the loan.
I guess that's just the way my bank does new car loans. 'show us a purchase order then we will cut you a check.' Just doesn't make sense though. :confused:
Oh, they also wanted to know if/how much I was putting down. Never mentioned a down payment; not even in the loan app..
 
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DEEKAYPEE8569

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Oooookay. Never heard of it before and I finance all my stuff through a credit union.

From E-mail exchange with credit union:

"As per our phone conversation, you are approved for a vehicle loan." "We will not issue the loan until you have provided us with a purchase order from the dealership." (I take this as having to make two more trips to the dealership. One to "negotiate" and/or get a hard copy purchase order; and another trip to pick up the car, after going to the bank and getting a check for whatever amount is on the P.O.).

"As per your request, I have printed an approval letter for you to take to the dealership." (This sounds like something I present at the negotiating table if/when a final sale price is agreed upon).

(Using round numbers, I asked the bank, 'If approved for a $30K loan and manage to negotiate down from that figure, is payment of the full amount still required?' "Correct, you do not have to borrow the full amount if you are putting a down payment on the vehicle." (If I was, it wouldn't be much) "Should you have any further questions,....."
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
If I have a loan for $40K and I finalize a deal @ 25K (Hey dreams are free); that remaining $15K could be used to make payments or pay for insurance, I'd still have to make payments on the $40K as far as the bank is concerned.
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Where on earth..?? This is your very first collateralized loan, I take it? That type of loan (vehicle) is always for the net purchase amount only. If you wanted to borrow 40k to buy a 25k car, you would have to do that using some other form of collateral; home equity being the most typical.
 

DEEKAYPEE8569

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Where on earth..?? This is your very first collateralized loan, I take it? That type of loan (vehicle) is always for the net purchase amount only. If you wanted to borrow 40k to buy a 25k car, you would have to do that using some other form of collateral; home equity being the most typical.

No Gilligan, it's not. In 2012 they granted and disbursed a loan I applied for.....without a purchase order. It seems like this requirement to have a purchase order prior to disbursing the loan is a peculiarity/rule.....whatever you want to call it, my bank has. Yeah, it was only three years ago, but I don't remember having to get a purchase order from Wiengardner in L'town; I just filled out a loan app. at the bank for the list price ($16,666.00). I paid $5K at the dealership, signed the papers and that was it; but I'm not walking into the dealership with $5K this time. At the most, my down payment will be $2500.

It appears I am going to have to go to Waldorf, first, to get a purchase order that defines a final purchase price and my down payment amount; because they will not fax me a purchase order. The person at the dealership wants me to go up there and play the negotiate game, then I take that paperwork to my bank; show it to the loan officer who will cut me a check for the written price of the car plus tax, title, tag fees; figures that they (the bank) will compute; then take the check back to the dealership to take delivery of the car; a total of two round trips that can be taken care of from the dealership's perspective with a fax. The car has a "discounted" price advertised. $1916.00 IS less than what the MSRP is. That lower figure is the number I'm shooting for. I applied for the full MSRP amount figuring I could use that $1916.00 difference to pay the fees and just make payments on the full MSRP. Apparently it don't work that way.
 

DEEKAYPEE8569

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You're not taking a loan when you pre-approve. All you are doing is getting an OK from the bank that they are ok with the amount you're asking for. This process, btw, does show up as a hit on your credit rating scores, as does each request from different places, including the car dealership. Pre-approval does NOT mean you have to follow thru and take the money.

There is basically no paperwork. You sit down, talk the the officer, you fill out a one-page request with your name/address/phone, etc..... your financial institutions and the amount you are asking for. In my case, it was the credit union where my money is kept. They can give you an answer while you're sitting there and tell you what the monthly payback will be. Ask for an amount that would cover what you expect to have to take a loan on. It does not have to be to the penny, round up to the nearest thousand. I pre-approved for the entire price of the vehicle using the most expensive one in my category, taxes, tags, etc., and added a "buffer". THEN I went to the dealer and haggled. Between the haggled price and a hefty down-payment, I went back to the credit union with the invoice and took a loan for half of what I pre-approved for.

You do not need an invoice to pre-approve. They know this. It's a very common practice.

After negotiating with the dealer, he will most likely ask to finance with him. If you have a good credit rating and can take the additional hit on your score while they check the numbers, let him run the numbers. It may be a better deal than your bank/credit union.

Contacted the bank and was told I could pick up the pre-approval letter and take THAT to the dealership; negotiate and whatever else; get a purchase order and take it to the bank. I wasn't given a dollar figure; I'm guessing it was for the full price of the car, which is what I applied for. If the amount on the paperwork I bring to the bank from the dealer is LESS than what I am pre-approved for, I will be given a check for the lesser amount; including fees/taxes. NOW I think I finally put all the puzzle pieces into the right puzzle.
 
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