How about the soldier that goes into battle?
Jehovah's Witness mother of twins refuses blood transfusion then dies.
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How about the soldier that goes into battle?
Chasey_Lane
Salt Life
Some people are born into religion and raised to know no other way.
~mellabella~
New Member
Interesting. I think it all depends on your view as to whether or not the cause was worth it. Some people don't think these soldiers deaths are honorable. But their family members do. Same here. Many people think this was a senseless death. But to those who share her beliefs, she is a martyr.
Parents have the right to refuse medical treatment on behalf of their children.
And, considering she's a JW and all, I suspect she would feel that a transfusion would prevent them from entering the Pearly Gates, and would opt for everlasting life.
However, she DIDN'T refuse treatment for her children - just for herself. So let's keep it to the facts, shall we?
Cowgirl
Well-Known Member
I just find it odd that a mother would choose to die over choosing to raise her children. I don't find it odd that a mother would die FOR her children, but that's not the case here.
I can't think of any belief that I would die for. :shrug:
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Here...
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Besides that, there are claims that, what, 100,000 or more people die, every year, from mistakes made in the hospital, which is more death than than auto accidents. If she is a loon, so be it, but doing whatever the hospital says is no guarantee in the first place.
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Besides that, there are claims that, what, 100,000 or more people die, every year, from mistakes made in the hospital, which is more death than than auto accidents. If she is a loon, so be it, but doing whatever the hospital says is no guarantee in the first place.
Chasey_Lane
Salt Life
I believe that is exactly what it is about. If she received a transfusion, she'd be banished from (as vrai said) the Pearly Gates. By her belief, she's probably through the Pearly Gates and watching down on her children, who if they follow the same beliefs, will join her one day.
SoMDGirl42
Well-Known Member
The only thing I believe strongly enough to die for would be my children.
What if someone held a gun to your head and said, "Molest a child or I'll kill you"?
What if they said, "Kill your own mother or I'll kill you"?
Cowgirl
Well-Known Member
:shrug: I find it sad that soldiers are dying and leaving children behind, but they weren't 100% sure they'd die. Not every soldier dies in battle. I wonder how many soldiers would go into battle if they *knew* they were definitely going to be killed.
Cowgirl
Well-Known Member
Well, that's not really a belief. That's dying for someone. It's different.
MMDad
Lem Putt
But I also understand that there are people who believe that their religious beliefs are more important to their children than thier life.
I believe that is exactly what it is about. If she received a transfusion, she'd be banished from (as vrai said) the Pearly Gates. By her belief, she's probably through the Pearly Gates and watching down on her children, who if they follow the same beliefs, will join her one day.
And there you have it.
All these "It Takes a Village" busybodies need to worry about their own lives and stop trying to control everyone else's.
wxtornado
The Other White Meat
I agree with you in that she had every right to make the choices that she did, regardless of how mindlessly stupid they are. Every time a JW commits passive suicide, I don't think it's a major loss. I think we should just give her her Darwin Award (posthumously), put the children into a good foster or adoptive home (with sane parents this time), and move on.
I think it is too bad that the children survived her: they will grow up with a double dose of this bullsh1t because of her "martyrdom". It's rather a pity that Dad didn't bleed out too, but some things cannot be rushed.
Cowgirl
Well-Known Member
I believe that is exactly what it is about. If she received a transfusion, she'd be banished from (as vrai said) the Pearly Gates. By her belief, she's probably through the Pearly Gates and watching down on her children, who if they follow the same beliefs, will join her one day.
Well, maybe without her guidance, the kids will grow up and not believe in the same things she does...so what if they never get to the Pearly Gates to join her?
wxtornado
The Other White Meat
Well, maybe without her guidance, the kids will grow up and not believe in the same things she does...so what if they never get to the Pearly Gates to join her?
If they're lucky!
Chasey_Lane
Salt Life
Who is to say your beliefs (or mine) will guarantee us into the Pearly Gates? I'm not going to bash someone for their beliefs, even if I don't agree with them.Well, maybe without her guidance, the kids will grow up and not believe in the same things she does...so what if they never get to the Pearly Gates to join her?
awpitt
Main Streeter
But she didn't choose to die. She trusted that the church teachings were based on a correct interpretation of the Bible which they were not.