JFK Poll
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Larry Gude
Strung Out
My mom...
...brought up a point she had heard about Jack:
Apparently he usually had on a serious, corset type back brace that made him rather immobile. In other words, after the first hit, he couldn't move! Couldn't collapse or duck or even twist around, as Connely did.
He needed to move about 4 inches for the fatal (from the rear) headshot to miss him completely.
He COULD have survived the first hit.
...brought up a point she had heard about Jack:
Apparently he usually had on a serious, corset type back brace that made him rather immobile. In other words, after the first hit, he couldn't move! Couldn't collapse or duck or even twist around, as Connely did.
He needed to move about 4 inches for the fatal (from the rear) headshot to miss him completely.
He COULD have survived the first hit.
I tend to solidify my opinions based on Stone movies - whatever he says happened, I believe the exact opposite.BuddyLee said:
BuddyLee
Football addict
My opinion was not so much based on Stone's views but Jim Garrison's. I did a little research and found out that after the release of this movie there was an outcry and in 92' congress made a commission to find out what truely happened and would try to release a lot of the classified information to the general public. In 96' they ended and came up with a report, concluding that a lot of Garrison's views were indeed correct or indicating that Garrison was on the right path at least.vraiblonde said:I tend to solidify my opinions based on Stone movies - whatever he says happened, I believe the exact opposite.
BuddyLee
Football addict
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Do you mean...
Jim Garrisons views as told my Oliver Stone in his movie?
If you really care about what happened to JFK, read Die by the Sword by Gus Russo.
If nothing else, it has all sorts of documented evidence and facts that you can use to persue whatever opinion you develop.
If you're like most people, you really don't care enough to research it but it's fun to talk about and all you really want is the Readers Digest version.
Russo consulted with Stone on the movie. Stone just wanted to stir things up because he likes the idea of the military industrial complex, facts be damned. Garrison was a full of #### nut job. Oswald killed Kennedy. The cover up is CYA stuff because CIA knew plenty about him and didn't take him very seriously and, sans cover up, many an illegal domestic CIA operation would have come to light, mostly under orders from JFK himself that would have been very embarrassing. Bobby Kennedy might even have been indicted as well.
Messy stuff.
Jim Garrisons views as told my Oliver Stone in his movie?
If you really care about what happened to JFK, read Die by the Sword by Gus Russo.
If nothing else, it has all sorts of documented evidence and facts that you can use to persue whatever opinion you develop.
If you're like most people, you really don't care enough to research it but it's fun to talk about and all you really want is the Readers Digest version.
Russo consulted with Stone on the movie. Stone just wanted to stir things up because he likes the idea of the military industrial complex, facts be damned. Garrison was a full of #### nut job. Oswald killed Kennedy. The cover up is CYA stuff because CIA knew plenty about him and didn't take him very seriously and, sans cover up, many an illegal domestic CIA operation would have come to light, mostly under orders from JFK himself that would have been very embarrassing. Bobby Kennedy might even have been indicted as well.
Messy stuff.
BuddyLee
Football addict
Sorry Bud, there are just too many loopholes in this 'Oswald killed Kennedy' story. He may have had a part in the assassination but he surely didn't act alone. There is way too much information out there to prove a conspiracy, the link I provided is just one piece.Larry Gude said:
Why is this book any more authoratative than any other book on the subject?Larry Gude said:
Russo has a black mark with me because he also recommended that
book about how terrible and frightening technology and computers are. That alone tells me he's got a screw loose.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Most people feel...
...the same way.
It just can't be.
No need to apologize to me. If I live in a world that can completely cover up the assassination of the most powerful man in the world, there isn't a thing I gotta worry about because the great 'they' are gonna make sure it doesn't matter anyway.
...the same way.
It just can't be.
No need to apologize to me. If I live in a world that can completely cover up the assassination of the most powerful man in the world, there isn't a thing I gotta worry about because the great 'they' are gonna make sure it doesn't matter anyway.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
It's not...
I think it's pretty clear, to most people, Oswald was a pawn in THE grandest conspiracy in world history. We know who killed EVERYONE in history...except one.
Besides, he recomended a book that says bad things about computers. We fart in his general direction!
I think it's pretty clear, to most people, Oswald was a pawn in THE grandest conspiracy in world history. We know who killed EVERYONE in history...except one.
Besides, he recomended a book that says bad things about computers. We fart in his general direction!
Larry Gude
Strung Out
You don't seem to know...
...much about Jack or Bobby, huh? Teds just the stupid one.
tomchamp said:
...much about Jack or Bobby, huh? Teds just the stupid one.
BuddyLee
Football addict
Why? Is it because he stood up for American justice? Do you not think our government or at least a part of our government can do something of this nature?Larry Gude said:
Yes, this sparked my initial interest in Garrison. I, however, began some research after the movie to deduct Stone's add-on's from the actual truth of the story.Larry Gude said:
Larry Gude
Strung Out
The WAS a conspiracy...
...to cover up the governments role in failing to protect the President and covering up illegal operations surrounding the assassination.
Web page:
Let's dig some nuggets, shall we?
...to cover up the governments role in failing to protect the President and covering up illegal operations surrounding the assassination.
Web page:
Let's dig some nuggets, shall we?
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Ok...
Actual truth of the story? The easy way through this would be to read the book, yes?
Actual truth of the story? The easy way through this would be to read the book, yes?
BuddyLee
Football addict
Although it won't make much of a difference in the information already provided...Larry Gude said:
http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/review-board/
So then, shall my first link be debunked for merely giving an unbiased summary?