July 19, 2022 Primary

kom526

They call me ... Sarcasmo
My assessment was Hogan's endorsement would be, and was, the kiss of death in the primary. Is that what you consider her campaign manager's biggest blunder?
Her manager ran her campaign like you would run a general election campaign for gov in this state. Far too much emphasis was placed in DC to Baltimore corridor instead of embracing the places where MD republicans live. Those outlying counties were the ones that helped carry Hogan to his win the first time and the middle county moderates (and an idiot Dem candidate) carried for term 2. We will get a DEM governor next and then we will need a Gordana Schifanelli to get us to where we need to be.
 

gemma_rae

Well-Known Member
Her manager ran her campaign like you would run a general election campaign for gov in this state. Far too much emphasis was placed in DC to Baltimore corridor instead of embracing the places where MD republicans live. Those outlying counties were the ones that helped carry Hogan to his win the first time and the middle county moderates (and an idiot Dem candidate) carried for term 2.
I agree with this part and would add, if memory serves me correctly, that Hogan benifited greatly the first time by an extreme dislike for Owe'Malley. I would submit however that if Wes Moore turns out to be a Ben Jealous redux, Cox has at least a glimmer of hope. Black peeps don't dislike Trump as much as you may think.
 

kom526

They call me ... Sarcasmo
I agree with this part and would add, if memory serves me correctly, that Hogan benifited greatly the first time by an extreme dislike for Owe'Malley. I would submit however that if Wes Moore turns out to be a Ben Jealous redux, Cox has at least a glimmer of hope. Black peeps don't dislike Trump as much as you may think.
Owe'Malley termed out and Hogan's campaign centered on the "rain tax" and other taxes enacted by Marty. Jealous and Hoyer both endorsed Moore which should speak volumes about him (not good). As far as the "Black peeps don't dislike Trump as much as you may think" Cox vs. Moore has nothing to do with Trump or color, there are enough liberal white democrats to help carry Moore's water.
 

gemma_rae

Well-Known Member
Owe'Malley termed out and Hogan's campaign centered on the "rain tax" and other taxes enacted by Marty. Jealous and Hoyer both endorsed Moore which should speak volumes about him (not good). As far as the "Black peeps don't dislike Trump as much as you may think" Cox vs. Moore has nothing to do with Trump or color, there are enough liberal white democrats to help carry Moore's water.
IMO, I don't believe they can do it without the Black peeps, and Brown, but we'll know in a few months. I also firmly believe the liberal whites' #1 strategy will be "A vote for Cox=A vote for Trump"

Just my feelz, no disrespect intended.
 

stgislander

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member
I am really surprised Franchot did as poorly as he did. He was the only Dem candidate I'd consider voting for.

And it looks like we'll have (ugh!) Anthony Brown as AG.
 

kom526

They call me ... Sarcasmo
IMO, I don't believe they can do it without the Black peeps, and Brown, but we'll know in a few months. I also firmly believe the liberal whites' #1 strategy will be "A vote for Cox=A vote for Trump"

Just my feelz, no disrespect intended.
None taken.
 

herb749

Well-Known Member
I am really surprised Franchot did as poorly as he did. He was the only Dem candidate I'd consider voting for.

And it looks like we'll have (ugh!) Anthony Brown as AG.

If he's still a screw up as when he was Lt Gov he will lose every case he prosecutes.
 

22AcaciaAve

Well-Known Member
My assessment was Hogan's endorsement would be, and was, the kiss of death in the primary. Is that what you consider her campaign manager's biggest blunder?

I don't think it really mattered. She was just not a very good candidate. There was only a tiny slim chance that she would be competitive in the general. That maybe republicans would get behind her and some of the moderate democrats would vote for her over a progressive.

As it is, Dan Cox is going to be destroyed. He has no shot. Zero, none. The worst beating in modern MD governor race history was Donald Schaeffer over Thomas Mooney, 82.4% to 17.6%. I figure Cox won't get beaten that badly, but I would be surprised if the democrat winner doesn't approach 70%. In 2020 Trump only got 32% of the popular vote in MD. I figure Cox won't exceed that so unless there is a third party for people who don't want MD to go full blown progressive, the democrat can likely pull 70%.

I was hoping Franchot might be the winner on the dem side. At least he was a bit more fiscally conservative. But it doesn't look that way. His campaign was about as poorly run as Shultz. Kind of the same way I saw Larry Hogan. While everyone else was bashing him, I was glad he was there. He stopped the O'Malley march to progressivism and at least spread some of the money to area's that always get screwed on projects in favor of Baltimore. He's about the best you can ever get in a liberal state like MD. To expect a true conservative at the state level in MD is like actually expecting Santa Clause to show up in your chimney on Christmas.

And you're finally going to see why the legislature was so much against a gas holiday that would have benefitted everyone. It could have been paid for with some of the federal covid money that Maryland still has not spent. That would have given people a small break, and without killing transpotration projects already in the works. But the legislature knew the GOP had no bench and that it was very likely a far left progressive could end up winning. So that money is already earmarked for things. I bet one of the first is the revival of the Red line. And once again, all of the state taxpayer money will be going right down the cesspool known as Baltimore City.
 

Merlin99

Visualize whirled peas
PREMO Member
So there was no Dem Sheriff (presumably because there are no candidates), but does that mean registered Dems do not get to vote for sheriff? If only R's are running, and only R's can vote for them in the primary, and then the winner of that runs un-opposed, then basically the D's don't get to vote for Sheriff?
Correct
 

gemma_rae

Well-Known Member
I don't think it really mattered. She was just not a very good candidate. There was only a tiny slim chance that she would be competitive in the general. That maybe republicans would get behind her and some of the moderate democrats would vote for her over a progressive.

As it is, Dan Cox is going to be destroyed. He has no shot. Zero, none. The worst beating in modern MD governor race history was Donald Schaeffer over Thomas Mooney, 82.4% to 17.6%. I figure Cox won't get beaten that badly, but I would be surprised if the democrat winner doesn't approach 70%. In 2020 Trump only got 32% of the popular vote in MD. I figure Cox won't exceed that so unless there is a third party for people who don't want MD to go full blown progressive, the democrat can likely pull 70%.

I was hoping Franchot might be the winner on the dem side. At least he was a bit more fiscally conservative. But it doesn't look that way. His campaign was about as poorly run as Shultz. Kind of the same way I saw Larry Hogan. While everyone else was bashing him, I was glad he was there. He stopped the O'Malley march to progressivism and at least spread some of the money to area's that always get screwed on projects in favor of Baltimore. He's about the best you can ever get in a liberal state like MD. To expect a true conservative at the state level in MD is like actually expecting Santa Clause to show up in your chimney on Christmas.

And you're finally going to see why the legislature was so much against a gas holiday that would have benefitted everyone. It could have been paid for with some of the federal covid money that Maryland still has not spent. That would have given people a small break, and without killing transpotration projects already in the works. But the legislature knew the GOP had no bench and that it was very likely a far left progressive could end up winning. So that money is already earmarked for things. I bet one of the first is the revival of the Red line. And once again, all of the state taxpayer money will be going right down the cesspool known as Baltimore City.
Four or five counties will go Dem, always do. They are P.G., MoCo, Chuck, B'more, and maybe AA. That leaves eighteen for Cox.

True, population density of the Dem counties can carry the entire state, but turn-out is key for them. I never heard of Wes Moore before this primary, honestly never heard of Dan Cox either, but I hear Moore is a socialist. I'm not sure if MD Dems are ready for that, but we'll see come November.

I have hope, and probably going to need it too.
 

kom526

They call me ... Sarcasmo
Hold your horses! Mail - in votes were very good to Hillary lackey Perez. Either way, we're screwed.
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Unofficial results as of 2134 21 JUL
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...

Can someone figure this out? Kinda looks like some manipulation goings on. Seeing as the race for the Calvert BOE was very contested, and Tracy McGuire being somewhat polarizing, it's very odd that mail-in votes are so high for her. Especially since Lisa Grenis' early voting and election day numbers are so comparable, if not greater. Something fishy going on I think. Lisa's mail-in numbers should be just as high as Tracy's, if not higher.

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LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...

Hold your horses! Mail - in votes were very good to Hillary lackey Perez. Either way, we're screwed.
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Unofficial results as of 2134 21 JUL
It's ok. It's ok. Calm down. Nothing to worry about. He has a "Black Agenda".

 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
Like I said the other day it will be between Trump backed Cox and Obama backed Perez.

I didn't know where this guy Moore came from, but I knew if Obama backed Perez---Perez would be the candidate. Now work hard Trumpers and maybe we can save Maryland from the Kenyan.
 

TPD

the poor dad
There is something going on with a lot of the democratic candidates getting almost as many votes with mail-in ballots as election day ballots. BOE candidate Marsha Williams closed the gap by 500 votes against Andrews. Chris Van Hollen got 1704 votes on election day in SMC and got 1677 mail-in/provisional votes - a difference of only 27 votes. Republicans need to step up their mail-in fraud I mean vote game if they want to win elections going forward!!!!

 
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