LOST season 3

FromTexas

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I was so happy with last nights show. They seem to be going back to the good stuff. I'm starting to think they have some "Philadelphia Experiment" crap going on as part of where the island is (think back to Penelope getting the phone call from the Artic and people being able to leave but not come back)...
 
FromTexas said:
I was so happy with last nights show. They seem to be going back to the good stuff. I'm starting to think they have some "Philadelphia Experiment" crap going on as part of where the island is (think back to Penelope getting the phone call from the Artic and people being able to leave but not come back)...
:yeahthat: Last night's episode made me feel all giddy and excited just like I did during season 1. I was very, very happy with it!
 

FromTexas

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kwillia said:
:yeahthat: Last night's episode made me feel all giddy and excited just like I did during season 1. I was very, very happy with it!



**** WARNING - STORYLINE INFORMATION FROM LAST NIGHT ENCLOSED - IF YOU MISSED IT, STOP NOW!! *****









The whole story had you wrapped, and then they pulled the classic end of show super clincher that makes you pissed you have to wait till the next week. I don't think its going to be him though. I think its a head fake.

Another thing. If Desmond has been saving him more than once, then Desmond has had to live the reality multiple times. He wouldn't have known the next step unless he lived through seeing him get hit by lightning the first time, saved him from lightning the second time and seen him drowned, saved him from lightning/drowning and seen him... You get the idea.

Demond is in a Groundhog Day. The woman did say that is the most important thing he will do in his life... push the button. (Was that scene with the woman on the bench not completely lifted from the Oracle in the Matrix?)
 
FromTexas said:
**** WARNING - STORYLINE INFORMATION FROM LAST NIGHT ENCLOSED - IF YOU MISSED IT, STOP NOW!! *****









Another thing. If Desmond has been saving him more than once, then Desmond has had to live the reality multiple times. He wouldn't have known the next step unless he lived through seeing him get hit by lightning the first time, saved him from lightning the second time and seen him drowned, saved him from lightning/drowning and seen him... You get the idea.
I didn't even think about that yet! I was very impressed with the latest twists in the story line. I just hope like hell they can pan it out successfully. I still think :gossip: is a dead man walking, but you may be right since it seems obvious now.
 

FromTexas

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kwillia said:
I didn't even think about that yet! I was very impressed with the latest twists in the story line. I just hope like hell they can pan it out successfully. I still think :gossip: is a dead man walking, but you may be right since it seems obvious now.

See... there are two ways to look at it. Everything else was him reliving it and now he can see the future, or there has to be something that happened later to keep sending him back again and again. I believe it has to be something he lived because he it has all been deja vu like moments. So, why would he be repeating each time (if he really went back and it wasn't something else)?

Also, I think the phrase, "the universe has a way of correcting itself" has a much more sinister meaning to their current situation. I don't think it just applies to his corrections.
 
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juggy4805

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FromTexas said:
See... there are two ways to look at it. Everything else was him reliving it and now he can see the future, or there has to be something that happened later to keep sending him back again and again. I believe it has to be something he lived because he it has all been deja vu like moments. So, why would he be repeating each time (if he really went back and it wasn't something else)?

Also, I think the phrase, "the universe has a way of correcting itself" has a much more sinister meaning to their current situation. I don't think it just applies to his corrections.

I just watched it online. A great episode. I don't think he is repeating it over and over again. Everything has to have an end and begining, where does it end?
 
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(((echo)))

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well the question i have is that why in the he11 is desmond "continuing" to save him??
unless for some reason he has some significance down the road, and if that is the case then it shouldn't matter "when" he dies/
or maybe i'm just not getting the bigger picture...HOWEVER!
the lil ol lady in the shop told desmond that if he DOESNT push the button that they will ALL die.....soooooo the button wasn't pushed and the "reactor" IMO went into meltdown.....so what gives :popcorn:
 

jazz lady

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I haven't finished watching last week's episode, but they're replaying it at 9 tonight before the new episode airs at 10 in case anyone missed it.

I found this to be an interesting discussion about last week:

Lost Analysis: Episode 8 -- Time Travel, Anyone?
Warning: Spoilers ahead. Proceed at your own risk or head over to ABC to watch last night's episode first.

Last week's episode kicked off a frenzy of theorizing not seen since the early days of the hatch, the button and the numbers and suddenly talk of "Lost" as a rudderless ship have evaporated, like so much black smoke. Why?

Turns out that the scene in which Karl (Alex's Other boyfriend) is subjected to some kind of sensory overload chamber -- and I dismissed as an homage to "A Clockwork Orange" -- held what looks to be a king-sized clue (or one whopper of a red herring). Thanks to some industrious fans, we now know that the scene contained a backwards message. That's right, a genuine Paul-is-dead moment right here in our very own "Lost:"

Listen closely or you might just miss the voice repeating this cryptic message: "Only fools are enslaved by time and space." (Nevermind the creepy screeching noise that sounds suspiciously like a jet engine.)

And, after last night's revealing Desmond-centric journey through time, it's starting to look like we're finally getting some consistent hints from the sadistic brains behind this weekly brain bender.
Much more after the jump...

Jumping back to last week's episode again (see, we can time travel, too), EW's Doc Jensen has done a bang-up job of distilling the swirling conjecture into one coherent post. It seems that the theory-du-jour (helped along by a glimpse of one of the Others reading a Stephen Hawking book) is that the mysterious force in the hatch that kept Locke, Desmond, Eko, et al. busy pressing buttons was a black hole -- a place where "matter is compressed to the degree that the known laws of physics no longer apply to it." How convenient.

But are we to believe that the minds that brought us "Nash Bridges" and "Felicity" are brainy enough to devise a complicated, scientifically sound quantum physics-based storyline interesting enough to hold the attention of the average TV watcher (or Celebritologist) who may or may not have passed high school science?

Maybe.

Hawking's contention was that "intense gravitational fields of black holes somehow unravel the laws of quantum physics" which makes crazy-cool "Lost" sense considering the magnetic qualities (i.e. gravitational pull) in the hatch and other island oddities. But would this explain a black smoke and pirate ships? If you long to get utterly lost in this particular wormhole, head on over to the TheTailSection.com to continue the discussion.

Returning to this week's show, though, we find Desmond wrestling with the same notion. As he asks his physics-savvy friend: Is time travel possible? And, as quoted in the EW article linked above, the producers want us to consider: "When is a flashback not a flashback?"

Desmond (Henry Ian Cusick) gets an earful from Mrs. Hawking (Fionnula Flanagan). (Photo courtesy ABC)As we've learned over the seasons, there are flashbacks (filler) and there are flashbacks (scenes with direct bearing on the island storyline); Desmond's definitely falls into the latter category. Not only did we get more insight into his relationship with Penny, but we also had one of the characters in the flashback give us some pretty straightforward intel:

When Desmond tries to buy Penny an engagement ring, the kindly older woman suddenly tells him he does not buy the ring and goes on to tell Des that if he does marry Penny the world will effectively end. Until I looked up today's episode on IMDB.com, though, I didn't catch that the kindly older woman's name is Mrs. Hawking. Yes, as in Stephen and time travel and black holes and Damon Lindelof, what are you doing to us?

Mrs. Hawking has been inserted into Desmond's flashback, and the show, as a sort of guide (by who, though? Is she the great and powerful Oz or is she the big rabbit to Des's Donnie Darko?). She patiently explains that we can't escape fate, that the universe has a way of "course correcting" and that eventually everyone will play a predetermined part.

On a surface level, we learn that Charlie's lot in life seems to be dying to save Claire. And, considering Charlie's increasingly jealous and possessive treatment of her, I can't say I'm too sorry to see him go. We also seemed to learn that Desmond's pushing of the hatch button is the most important thing he'll ever do, so will he now fade into the background, emerging only when we need a prophet to help the plot?

On a deeper level, let's hope "course correcting" also applies to the circuitous route the show has taken over the last season or so and that this is the writing team's way of letting us know they have a specific end in mind. This may be the case. In last week's EW cover story, Lindelof said:

"I feel like we're playing a chess game and in the first six moves, we've lost our queen and two bishops, and the audience is saying 'They are the worst chess players in the world!' What they don't realize is that we're nine moves away from checkmating you. If we lose, we lose. But that's the play, and we're standing by it."

Fair enough. And with episodes slated to explain Jack's tattoos, Locke's wheelchair and the return of Cindy the Stewardess by season's end, I'm patiently waiting to be checkmated.

Best line of the night goes to Hurley: "Do you know any songs about drinking, fighting and girls with one leg."

:eyebrow: Interesting...and coming up this week...

Stranger in a Strange Land -- A power play ensues between Jack and "The Others" as Juliet's future hangs in the balance. Meanwhile, Kate, Sawyer and Karl continue on their journey away from "Alcatraz."
 

maylinduplantis

gunslinger
so, what you all think of last nights episode? Looks like Jack is gonna be an Other-Implant until the castaways come looking... what do you think will happen when Jack sees Otherville? Personally, I'd be like "warm shower, NOW!" and hold a gun to someone's head LOL
 
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juggy4805

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maylinduplantis said:
so, what you all think of last nights episode? Looks like Jack is gonna be an Other-Implant until the castaways come looking... what do you think will happen when Jack sees Otherville? Personally, I'd be like "warm shower, NOW!" and hold a gun to someone's head LOL


I wonder how the flight stewardess got there. It's pretty weird for her to be there and just walking around free.
 

Hessian

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Why Phuket?

Jack's little vacation and piece of oriental flesh was set in Phuket....the place that got leveled by the Tsunami.

I guess what gets me puzzled is: how much do the others "stage" for Jack? How much is real and how much is being used to manipulate him?

Also: I am a little disappointed that Mr Echo is no longer with the island crew....I would have loved to see what he could do with his "Jesus Stick."

It is also time Jack started using some mind games of his own against the others. Yes he lied to "Brunhilda" but they didn't by it.

Preview next week: A V-Dub van cruising through the grasslands? What the heck???
 
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Hessian

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I laughed...

a number of times during this episode...
I also love the 8 trac tape playing the Road to Shambala (?)--good tune for cruising in a V-dub bus!
 
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juggy4805

Guest
I found the episode a little boring. It didn't really contribute to the main story line.
 

nomoney

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juggy4805 said:
I found the episode a little boring. It didn't really contribute to the main story line.


it didn't really add to the main story line, but I love me some Hurley, he makes me giggle.
 
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