More on that Birth Certificate thing...

ImnoMensa

New Member
Well my feeling is that if this thing is whitewashed pretty much nothing will happen except Obama will have admitted he is not a citizen and the USSC will have torn the Constitution to shreds, and we will constantly remind the Messiah that he is illigitimate in more ways that one, but to look on the bright side it would mean we could run Arnold in 2012.LMAO.
 

Bavarian

New Member
The justification will be that the "people spoke", (though the popular vote was close), and the thought being riots in the streets if the half African is denied his seat. The Constituion is becoming a scrap of paper anyway.
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
Well my feeling is that if this thing is whitewashed pretty much nothing will happen except Obama will have admitted he is not a citizen and the USSC will have torn the Constitution to shreds, and we will constantly remind the Messiah that he is illigitimate in more ways that one, but to look on the bright side it would mean we could run Arnold in 2012.LMAO.

I'm not sure which is worse Bush stealing the election or this.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
I don't see an uprising to a non-decision. I do, however, see an uprising if the court comes around to saying that BO's election is null and void.
I've been trying to figure out just what would/should/could happen.

The way we elect the president and vice president is pretty clear:
Amendment 12​
The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;

The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;

The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.

The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.​
So, even though we, the people of the United States of America, do not have a separate choice of VP and Pres, the electors do.

So, if Obama's not eligible (note the word IF), then some things could happen out of this. First, The electors could not choose him, obviously, as their candidate. But, they could choose Biden as VP. Meanwhile, with no one to turn over to, Bush could remain president until the 4th of March, 2009, while waiting for the House to pick a president.

OR, the electors could, viably, pick McCain as president since his numbers were so close (assuming that this is resolved against Obama by Dec 13th (when the electors vote)). And, if they did, would they choose Palin, or Biden as VP?

OR, the electors could, viably, pick Hillary, since she got more Democratic nominating votes than Obama anyway.

OR, the electors could pick Obama, then have the SCOTUS throw Obama out as unqualified, and the House could pick - Pelosi? Dean? Reid? Biden? Hillary? GORE?



This is just a hypothetical game, mind you. But, if we go on the assumption (it's just a game, just an assumption) that Obama is not constitutionally qualified, then how do YOU see it playing out?
 

Kerad

New Member
Or...

Obama is President, as elected.

And you nutjobs have to deal with America improving over your Bush years.


Yeah..that would suck.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
Or...

Obama is President, as elected.

And you nutjobs have to deal with America improving over your Bush years.


Yeah..that would suck.
don't get me wrong, Obama as president is likely to suck. I totally agree with that. I disagree with any "improvements" he would cause, based upon his campaign promises and short record, but I do think he's gonna suck big time.

However, that's not the game. See, that's why I said IF, and ASSUME (IT'S A GAME). It's purely a hypothetical question.
 

awpitt

Main Streeter
So, if Obama's not eligible (note the word IF), then some things could happen out of this. First, The electors could not choose him, obviously, as their candidate. But, they could choose Biden as VP. Meanwhile, with no one to turn over to, Bush could remain president until the 4th of March, 2009, while waiting for the House to pick a president.

One of your options had Bush staying on until March 4th. That can't happen since his term ends at noon on the 20th of Jan. Even if Biden were still picked for VP and the incoming POTUS spot is empty, that would mean that Biden would assume the POTUS spot. Then, once sworn in as POTUS, Biden would appoint a VP under the 25th ammendment.
 
I've been trying to figure out just what would/should/could happen.

The way we elect the president and vice president is pretty clear:
Amendment 12​
The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;

The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;

The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.

The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.​
So, even though we, the people of the United States of America, do not have a separate choice of VP and Pres, the electors do.

So, if Obama's not eligible (note the word IF), then some things could happen out of this. First, The electors could not choose him, obviously, as their candidate. But, they could choose Biden as VP. Meanwhile, with no one to turn over to, Bush could remain president until the 4th of March, 2009, while waiting for the House to pick a president.

OR, the electors could, viably, pick McCain as president since his numbers were so close (assuming that this is resolved against Obama by Dec 13th (when the electors vote)). And, if they did, would they choose Palin, or Biden as VP?

OR, the electors could, viably, pick Hillary, since she got more Democratic nominating votes than Obama anyway.

OR, the electors could pick Obama, then have the SCOTUS throw Obama out as unqualified, and the House could pick - Pelosi? Dean? Reid? Biden? Hillary? GORE?



This is just a hypothetical game, mind you. But, if we go on the assumption (it's just a game, just an assumption) that Obama is not constitutionally qualified, then how do YOU see it playing out?

He would be up for immediate impeachment.
 

awpitt

Main Streeter
So, several witnesses saying he was born in Kenya, documentation of Indonesian schooling which required Indonesian citizenship against...... nuh uh.



If I were on the jury, I know how I'd vote.
I've been on a jury. The witnesses and "documentation" have to be credible. Not just some bullsh!t talked about on the Intenet.

Again, if there was ever any substance to these charges, it would have been settled months ago.
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
Or...

Obama is President, as elected.

And you nutjobs have to deal with America improving over your Bush years.


Yeah..that would suck.

You know Kerad, after 8 years of Bush is lair, Bush caused 911, Bush is killing innocent civilians in cold blood, Bush is torturing, Bush is Hitler, Bush is a thug, Bush is evil, Bush caused Katrina, Bush ruined our economy, Bush is a terrorist, Bush is the worst president in American history... (do I need to go on?)

Suck it up.
 

The Oyster Guy

New Member
You know Kerad, after 8 years of Bush is lair, Bush caused 911, Bush is killing innocent civilians in cold blood, Bush is torturing, Bush is Hitler, Bush is a thug, Bush is evil, Bush caused Katrina, Bush ruined our economy, Bush is a terrorist, Bush is the worst president in American history... (do I need to go on?)

Suck it up.

As it is written in the Bible: an eye for an eye, and a nutjob for a nutjob.
 

tater

New Member
:lol: read the name at the top of the page

I'm sure they're an impartial source.


I swear, the corrupt media is doing a phenominal job of pulling the wool over so many people's eyes. This is why we are where we are. I don't know how many peeps in the leadup to the election threw this "factcheck" garbage in my face. It really was like trying to have a conversation with an infant :banghead:
 
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