Morning-after pill to be available without prescription

LordStanley

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BuddyLee said:
So all the chitlin's will be pregnant by 15 then?:sarcasm:


Probably just as many are there are today.... Hell just go walk around walmart on any given night to see how many babies are having babies
 

vraiblonde

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I feel two ways about this. On one hand, I like the morning after pill better than traditional abortion or skads of unwed welfare mothers. On the other hand, I dislike anything that facilitates sex without consequences.

Our pop culture objectifies women enough, in my opinion, and portrays them as sex toys for men, which devalues their roles in our society. When young girls see celebrity sexpots being hailed as the be-all of womanhood, it sends them the wrong message. This is one of the reasons why some Mom would think it was appropriate to wear a miniskirt and a thong to flash her butt around a daycare - because the societal message she has received is that this is not only acceptable, but desireable.

I'd like for our society to stop glorifying sexual behavior and focus more on intellectual endeavors. And I'd like to see the entertainment media start treating women as valuable humans instead of naked playtoys.

I don't think easy abortion and sex without consequences will further this goal, so I'm probably against it. But, again, I come back to all the dopes out there that probably shouldn't be having children, yet WILL have sex.

:shrug:
 

mv_princess

mv = margaritaville
You know if you go overseas, you never see these issues......why? beacuse they aren't afraid of it. Here good lord if you even mention sex everyone runs around screaming!!

If people would just relax realize "hey it's gonna happen...and I should probably educate myself about it" you probably woudn't have so many issues.
 

Somdmommy

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vraiblonde said:
I feel two ways about this. On one hand, I like the morning after pill better than traditional abortion or skads of unwed welfare mothers. On the other hand, I dislike anything that facilitates sex without consequences.

Our pop culture objectifies women enough, in my opinion, and portrays them as sex toys for men, which devalues their roles in our society. When young girls see celebrity sexpots being hailed as the be-all of womanhood, it sends them the wrong message. This is one of the reasons why some Mom would think it was appropriate to wear a miniskirt and a thong to flash her butt around a daycare - because the societal message she has received is that this is not only acceptable, but desireable.

I'd like for our society to stop glorifying sexual behavior and focus more on intellectual endeavors. And I'd like to see the entertainment media start treating women as valuable humans instead of naked playtoys.

I don't think easy abortion and sex without consequences will further this goal, so I'm probably against it. But, again, I come back to all the dopes out there that probably shouldn't be having children, yet WILL have sex.

:shrug:

:clap:
 

Pete

Repete
vraiblonde said:
I feel two ways about this. On one hand, I like the morning after pill better than traditional abortion or skads of unwed welfare mothers. On the other hand, I dislike anything that facilitates sex without consequences.

Our pop culture objectifies women enough, in my opinion, and portrays them as sex toys for men, which devalues their roles in our society. When young girls see celebrity sexpots being hailed as the be-all of womanhood, it sends them the wrong message. This is one of the reasons why some Mom would think it was appropriate to wear a miniskirt and a thong to flash her butt around a daycare - because the societal message she has received is that this is not only acceptable, but desirable.

I'd like for our society to stop glorifying sexual behavior and focus more on intellectual endeavors. And I'd like to see the entertainment media start treating women as valuable humans instead of naked playtoys.

I don't think easy abortion and sex without consequences will further this goal, so I'm probably against it. But, again, I come back to all the dopes out there that probably shouldn't be having children, yet WILL have sex.

:shrug:
As bad as "sex without consequences" may be it is less bad than an entire generation of welfare/food stamp/TANIFF beebee momma's and deadbeat dads and their multiple kids who are likely sentenced to a life of misery and poverty.

As far as STD's, judging form the sheer number of unwed mothers condoms are not being used very often anyway.
 

Pete

Repete
mv_princess said:
You know if you go overseas, you never see these issues......why? beacuse they aren't afraid of it. Here good lord if you even mention sex everyone runs around screaming!!

If people would just relax realize "hey it's gonna happen...and I should probably educate myself about it" you probably woudn't have so many issues.
heh......you said sex
 

oldman

Lobster Land
I'm happy to say us senior citizens have no need for this miracle pill. Our only worry is having a heart attack while doing the deed.
 

vraiblonde

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Pete said:
As bad as "sex without consequences" may be it is less bad than an entire generation of welfare/food stamp/TANIFF beebee momma's and deadbeat dads and their multiple kids who are likely sentenced to a life of misery and poverty.
Agreed.

I guess what I'd really like to see is our society move toward a culture of personal responsibility and respect for ourselves and each other. I used to be rabidly anti-abortion - not even remotely close to pro-choice. Then I wised up and realized that our society fosters a culture of drugs/sex/rock and roll because it sedates the masses and keeps them quiet and occupied. You can't fight against something like that, so now I'm pro-abortion as a second-rate solution to irresponsible behavior.

The only thing I can really do is teach my daughters and hope it sticks.
 

LordStanley

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oldman said:
I'm happy to say us senior citizens have no need for this miracle pill. Our only worry is having a heart attack while doing the deed.


They do have a pill for that. Its called The :dont-have-a-heart-attack-while-doing-the-deed: pill. dhahawdtd for short.

Availible at walmart and CVS
 

vraiblonde

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oldman said:
I'm happy to say us senior citizens have no need for this miracle pill. Our only worry is having a heart attack while doing the deed.
And 15 hour erections due to Viagra. :lol:
 

Ponytail

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Ya know, I still remember all of the hypotheticals that were posed, and still are, when condoms in school were discussed. "We should be teaching Abstinence, not acceptance". Again...pure BS. It's going to happen. Hiding that fact doesn't prevent squat.
 

BuddyLee

Football addict
vraiblonde said:
Agreed.

I guess what I'd really like to see is our society move toward a culture of personal responsibility and respect for ourselves and each other. I used to be rabidly anti-abortion - not even remotely close to pro-choice. Then I wised up and realized that our society fosters a culture of drugs/sex/rock and roll because it sedates the masses and keeps them quiet and occupied. You can't fight against something like that, so now I'm pro-abortion as a second-rate solution to irresponsible behavior.

The only thing I can really do is teach my daughters and hope it sticks.
I'm curious if you can think of any plausible solutions to these societal ill's. I'm not trying to be a smartass (for once:lol:) just interested in what you might suggest, if anything.
 

Bavarian

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vraiblonde said:
I feel two ways about this. On one hand, I like the morning after pill better than traditional abortion or skads of unwed welfare mothers. On the other hand, I dislike anything that facilitates sex without consequences.

Our pop culture objectifies women enough, in my opinion, and portrays them as sex toys for men, which devalues their roles in our society. When young girls see celebrity sexpots being hailed as the be-all of womanhood, it sends them the wrong message. This is one of the reasons why some Mom would think it was appropriate to wear a miniskirt and a thong to flash her butt around a daycare - because the societal message she has received is that this is not only acceptable, but desireable.

I'd like for our society to stop glorifying sexual behavior and focus more on intellectual endeavors. And I'd like to see the entertainment media start treating women as valuable humans instead of naked playtoys.

I don't think easy abortion and sex without consequences will further this goal, so I'm probably against it. But, again, I come back to all the dopes out there that probably shouldn't be having children, yet WILL have sex.

:shrug:
1) This pill is an abortifactant. It prevents implantation of the fertilized egg, a baby.

2) the cheapining of women, turning them into sex objects only, is precisely what Pope Paul VI predicted in Humanae Vitae.

3) under 18 girls, impregnated by older men, (statutory rape victims), will be provided this abortifactant pill by their older rapists.
 

vraiblonde

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Ponytail said:
Ya know, I still remember all of the hypotheticals that were posed, and still are, when condoms in school were discussed. "We should be teaching Abstinence, not acceptance". Again...pure BS. It's going to happen. Hiding that fact doesn't prevent squat.
I disagree with this. I don't think all teens are having sex. And I think that you can promote abstinence primarily, yet still make birth control available. I definitely don't think the schools should be involved in the sexual activity of the students in any way, shape or form. Condoms do not belong in schools and there should be nothing that smacks of sex-ed outside of routine biology classes. This should be the job of the parents, not the schools - much like religion, politics or any other personal preference topic.
 

LordStanley

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vraiblonde said:
I disagree with this. I don't think all teens are having sex. And I think that you can promote abstinence primarily, yet still make birth control available. I definitely don't think the schools should be involved in the sexual activity of the students in any way, shape or form. Condoms do not belong in schools and there should be nothing that smacks of sex-ed outside of routine biology classes. This should be the job of the parents, not the schools - much like religion, politics or any other personal preference topic.
:yeahthat:
 

Pete

Repete
BuddyLee said:
I'm curious if you can think of any plausible solutions to these societal ill's. I'm not trying to be a smartass (for once:lol:) just interested in what you might suggest, if anything.
Our government has butted in and become an enabler for too long. It cannot be fixed, we will continue to spiral down until the USA ceases to exist, then civil war and we will break into small European sized countries.
 

Ponytail

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Im not saying that all teens have sex. All I'm saying as that this pill isn't going to change anything as far as the thoughts that teens have. They'll believe what they want to believe.

I'm having a hard time believing that the release of this pill is going to cause a rise in STD's. That just makes no sense to me.

As far as older men buying it for their underage girlfriends, well, they risk the same thing as they do without...statutory rape charges if they are found out. Again, the pill won't change anything. The ones that contract an STD, will have contracted it anyway BECAUSE THEY WERE STUPID, not because the pill is available.

There is a stigma with young people about having to go in to a drug store to buy condomns or pregnancy tests. It will be the same for this pill. "What if someone I know sees me?"

I really think people are going overboard with their thoughts of the possibilities. It doesn't make sense to me. No, I don't have kids of my own, but it wasn't long ago, i was one. I'm friends with people that have them, and I'm very close to many of their teenage kids. They are no different than I was.

if the parents are responsible parents, all they can do, is all our parents did for us, and that is talk to them about sex, protections, and the risks. If a kid wants to believe that the Morning After Pill will keep them from getting an STD, then the AIDS campaign has failed, as has our educational system, and parenting. Again, The pill won't change that.

I think the benefits of it FAR out wiegh the possible negatives, which so far, I haven't heard a single one that is logical.
 
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