MVA Real ID License Renewal

RareBreed

Throwing the deuces
I haven't read all the responses so sorry if it's already been answered but is getting a Real ID mandatory?
 
I haven't read all the responses so sorry if it's already been answered but is getting a Real ID mandatory?
The short answer is 'yes'. There are exceptions too numerous to list here. You should go to the source: The DHS. Link below:

https://www.dhs.gov/real-id

There is also a legit DHS Real ID website for MD that allows you to check by your driver's license number, but I'm not sure about that.

I realize you're very busy, but... you really should Google it and check your individual situation yourself. You should also read the entries in this thread because they are entertaining, informative and often factual.
 
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BernieP

Resident PIA
Agree, and have thought the same for a while now.
From the DHS website
Q: How does REAL ID implementation impact states that provide driver's licenses and IDs to certain non-citizens/undocumented immigrants?
REAL ID allows compliant states to issue driver's licenses and identification cards where the identity of the applicant cannot be assured or for whom lawful presence is not determined. In fact, some states currently issue such noncompliant cards to undocumented individuals. These cards must clearly state on their face (and in the machine readable zone) that it is not acceptable for official purposes and must use a unique design or color to differentiate them from compliant cards. DHS cautions against assuming that possession of a noncompliant card indicates the holder is an undocumented individual, given that several states issue noncompliant licenses for reasons unrelated to lawful presence.
So the real ID push in MD, and the reason for forcing you to renew 4 years early is so they can kisss Casa Maryland ass.
 

awpitt

Main Streeter
My guess is because MD issues driver licenses to non-citizens, particularly those without legal immigration status, WE have to provide additional paperwork to prove what they should have already known.
The additional documentation requirement is a result of new requirements set by the Feds in late 2018. That's why a lot of us who thought we had Real ID (the Star) ended up going back to the MVA to provide the aditional documentation that's required by the Feds.

Here's my take on this, MD style. You can get a valid driver's license and register to vote (motor voter) without proof of citizenship or even legal immigration status. You can then go to the polls and vote, because after all, immigration law isn't a Maryland problem and we certainly can't ask at the polls for identification or proof of citizenship.
Undocumented immigrants cannot get a Real ID compliant driver's license nor register to vote (motor voter) in Maryland.
 

BernieP

Resident PIA
The additional documentation requirement is a result of new requirements set by the Feds in late 2018. That's why a lot of us who thought we had Real ID (the Star) ended up going back to the MVA to provide the aditional documentation that's required by the Feds.



Undocumented immigrants cannot get a Real ID compliant driver's license nor register to vote (motor voter) in Maryland.
I said, "get a valid driver's license". If they have a valid drivers license, what's stopping them from registering to vote?
MVA might not register them, but when the "parties" run voter registration drives, if they have a license someone might sign them up.
Once the paperwork is in do you think the people doing verification are going to actually check MVA records to see what restrictions are there.
 

officeguy

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Went on Tue and had the new DL in the mail on Friday. With all the complaining about the MVA, this was actually a reasonable experience.
 

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awpitt

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Weird, mine got recalled a month ago but no news story. I did get a new email today saying the same thing, that it has been recalled.
The news story I posted covers your license. There was a group of licensees who had until June to bring their documents to the MVA. That deadline was extended to July. So now, the people who didn't meet the deadline are having their licenses recalled. The next group of people have until November 5th to bring their documents to the MVA. I was part of the Nov 5th group but I took care of everything last month so I'm good to go. I was in and out of the MVA in 13 minutes.

Bottom line, if you haven't already, make an appointment with the MVA and get your stuff squared away.
 

RareBreed

Throwing the deuces
The news story I posted covers your license. There was a group of licensees who had until June to bring their documents to the MVA. That deadline was extended to July. So now, the people who didn't meet the deadline are having their licenses recalled. The next group of people have until November 5th to bring their documents to the MVA. I was part of the Nov 5th group but I took care of everything last month so I'm good to go. I was in and out of the MVA in 13 minutes.

Bottom line, if you haven't already, make an appointment with the MVA and get your stuff squared away.
We have until December but decided to get it done ASAP because we figured others would wait until closer to the deadline.
 

BernieP

Resident PIA
Nothing to see here

JUDICIAL WATCH VICTORY: FEDERAL COURT ORDERS MARYLAND TO PRODUCE VOTER REGISTRATION LIST DATA TO JUDICIAL WATCH

Judicial Watch had sought the Maryland voter list data after discovering that there were more registered voters in Montgomery County than citizens over the age of 18 who could register. U.S. District Court Judge Ellen Lipton Hollander rejected Maryland’s objections to providing the voter list information under Section 8(i) of the National Voter Registration Act:

The dispute over the voter registration list arose from an April 11, 2017, notice letter sent to Maryland election officials, in which Judicial Watch explained Montgomery County had an impossibly high registration rate. The letter threatened a lawsuit if the problems with Montgomery County’s voter rolls were not fixed. The letter also requested access to Montgomery County voter registration lists in order to evaluate the efficacy of any “programs and activities conducted for the purpose of ensuring the accuracy and currency of Maryland’s official eligible voter lists during the past 2 years.”

Democrat Maryland officials, in response, attacked and smeared Judicial Watch by suggesting it was an agent of Russia.
Wonder how that motor voter law is working out, got a state ID from MVA, good to go.
 

Tech

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Nothing to see here

JUDICIAL WATCH VICTORY: FEDERAL COURT ORDERS MARYLAND TO PRODUCE VOTER REGISTRATION LIST DATA TO JUDICIAL WATCH



Wonder how that motor voter law is working out, got a state ID from MVA, good to go.
By linking a DL to voting is good, you have to show proof who you are and where you live. Now just link the pollbooks when you check in to vote to the DL for the photo.

Of course the left considers purging people from voter rolls when they appear on the SSDI as voter suppresion.
 

awpitt

Main Streeter
Do they compensate you for the time off from work and the gas to drive up to freaking Loveville?
No. It's not their responsibility. If you want to blame anyone, blame the Trump Administration. They're the one who changed the requirements last year. They're the reason Maryland, and other states, are having to recall licenses.
 

MiddleGround

Well-Known Member
No. It's not their responsibility. If you want to blame anyone, blame the Trump Administration. They're the one who changed the requirements last year. They're the reason Maryland, and other states, are having to recall licenses.
Wasn't this signed into law back in 2008 at the end of Bush's term? Isn't THAT where this all began? Swore I read that somewhere.

And... it's not their job to do their job correctly?
 

awpitt

Main Streeter
Wasn't this signed into law back in 2008 at the end of Bush's term? Isn't THAT where this all began? Swore I read that somewhere.

And... it's not their job to do their job correctly?

Yes. It was one of the results after 9-11. That being Real ID. And Maryland was one of the first states to redo their licences. However, last year, the Trump Administration changed the requirements which is why Maryland is now having to get people to come back to the MVA with the newly required documents.
 

BernieP

Resident PIA
By linking a DL to voting is good, you have to show proof who you are and where you live. Now just link the pollbooks when you check in to vote to the DL for the photo.

Of course the left considers purging people from voter rolls when they appear on the SSDI as voter suppresion.
Not if they issue license to non-citizens. Besides, I don't think they can ask for ID when you go to the poll, just name.
 
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