not having a college degree seen as a negative thing

[DipStick]

...or maybe he was just feed up with the liberal ideals that the majority of college "professors" spew.

Is that going to be his response when he's asked that question on the campaign trail?

"I'm not going to finish because college professors are Liberal"

Good luck with that.

 

[vraiblonde]

Is that going to be his response when he's asked that question on the campaign trail?

"I'm not going to finish because college professors are Liberal"

Good luck with that.

What reason *did* he give? I haven't really been following this story because 1) I was unaware that Scott Walker had actually declared himself; and 2) because having a college degree isn't a prerequisite for the presidency in my opinion, therefore has no bearing on whether or not I would vote for him should he go official.

 

[GURPS]

Who is Mike Rowe?

Really ?


you are trolling me

 

[PeoplesElbow]

You're probably thinking of government run universities. On balance, you don't find that to be the case in private universities. Of course, there are exceptions that prove the rule, so there's no need to digging just so you can have a "neener, neener, neener" moment.

I find it enigmatic when people complain about government educations as if there aren't other options. You get what you pay for.

You mean the ones where a significant number of which are run by religious organizations? No agenda there either...

 

[Hijinx]

By the time a person runs for President he should have established a record for himself other than his college record.

Obama's election was an anachronism. His only record outside of college was that of Community organizer.

In his first race for office, seeking a state Senate seat on Chicago's gritty South Side in 1996, Obama effectively used election rules to eliminate his Democratic competition.

As a community organizer, he had helped register thousands of voters. But when it came time to run for office, he employed Chicago rules to invalidate the voting petition signatures of three of his challengers.

The move denied each of them, including incumbent Alice Palmer, a longtime Chicago activist, a place on the ballot. It cleared the way for Obama to run unopposed on the Democratic ticket in a heavily Democrat district.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/29/obamas.first.campaign/

http://stoneformayor.com/obamas-strategy-to-win-at-all-costs-violated-his-challengers-civil-rights/

As State Senator he mostly voted Present.

When he ran for U.S Senate he pulled 2 more slick moves. He got rid of his primary opponent by having closed records unsealed.
Then in the General he got his opponents Custody records unsealed.

http://humanevents.com/2012/08/01/ann-coulter-obamas-signature-move-unsealing-private-records/

So you see although Obama claims to have attended 3 colleges his college records are not what got him to the U.S.Senate.
His college records also did not get him to the White House, especially since he got them sealed.

Isn't it ironic that his political career started by unsealing other people's records and yet he sealed his own.
Not only that but he was able to unseal his opponents records, but his records cannot be unsealed---not to this day.

No he floated into the White House because so many idiots thought it was a black man's turn.

 

[Lurk]

What reason *did* he give? I haven't really been following this story because 1) I was unaware that Scott Walker had actually declared himself; and 2) because having a college degree isn't a prerequisite for the presidency in my opinion, therefore has no bearing on whether or not I would vote for him should he go official.

What is relevant is that (1) he's greater than 35 years of age and (2) presumably can prove he was born in the United States. Wish we could say the same for the current resident at 1600 Penn Ave.

 

[RPMDAD]

Just to get back to the title of the thread. not having a college degree seen as a negative thing. I am guessing this negative thing applies to these morons. Michael Dell, Henry Ford, Bill Gates, John D. Rockefeller, Steven Spielberg, Mark Zuckerberg, Walt Disney. I should be seen as so negative. Taken From http://www.interesticle.com/entertainment/10-richest-people-who-did-not-finish-college/

 

[Midnightrider]

It's never happened?

We know Obama went to College, we know (or do we just assume) that he graduated.

What else do we know?

Do we know his grades?

Where he ranked in his graduating class?

How he got admitted, what was the criteria that got him there in the first place?

Have we read any of his works? Any Thesis material? Any research?

So yeah, it's happened, we've elected somebody solely based on his "being educated".. and he's kind of black.

If anything you are arguing at he was elected despite knowledge of his education, not based solely upon it. Besides we knew plenty about Obama and his opponents

No. I am saying that formal education, or lack thereof, isn't a good indicator of presidential worth.

Although if someone held a gun to my teddybear's head and said, "Pick on of these two candidates based only on this limited information, or the bear gets it," I would most likely choose the "less" educated one. The reason? Because I would think that the guy with no college, who got to that stage in life anyway, had more on the ball.

I find hat answer disingenuous, but if that's your story that is fine. Personally I would take the more educated guy for the obvious reasons.

In my very brief community college experience, I had two out of five professors who were blatant and self-described liberal Democrats. They spent much of the class time trying to indoctrinate their students, presenting their crackpot ideology as "fact" and not up for debate. Their rhetoric had absolutely nothing to do with the actual class or with anything we were studying. They would go off spontaneously about man-made global warming, evil big business and oil, and how Jews needed to back off the Palestinians, among other tirades. If any of us tried to engage them, we were immediately shut down and ridiculed from the bully pulpit.

The other three profs, I couldn't tell you what their political leanings were. But I had zero professors who touted a conservative agenda, or self-identified as Republican.

Just my personal experience.

Your problem is both venue and sample size. You don't have the best and bright teaching at community colleges, and even if you did 5 isn't going to give representative results.

I didn't know the political affiliation of many of my professors. It just didn't come up except for maybe in polysci type courses. The few professors I was close with were actually very conservative.

 

[mamatutu]

By the time a person runs for President he should have established a record for himself other than his college record.

Obama's election was an anachronism. His only record outside of college was that of Community organizer.

In his first race for office, seeking a state Senate seat on Chicago's gritty South Side in 1996, Obama effectively used election rules to eliminate his Democratic competition.

As a community organizer, he had helped register thousands of voters. But when it came time to run for office, he employed Chicago rules to invalidate the voting petition signatures of three of his challengers.

The move denied each of them, including incumbent Alice Palmer, a longtime Chicago activist, a place on the ballot. It cleared the way for Obama to run unopposed on the Democratic ticket in a heavily Democrat district.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/29/obamas.first.campaign/

http://stoneformayor.com/obamas-strategy-to-win-at-all-costs-violated-his-challengers-civil-rights/

As State Senator he mostly voted Present.

When he ran for U.S Senate he pulled 2 more slick moves. He got rid of his primary opponent by having closed records unsealed.
Then in the General he got his opponents Custody records unsealed.

http://humanevents.com/2012/08/01/ann-coulter-obamas-signature-move-unsealing-private-records/

So you see although Obama claims to have attended 3 colleges his college records are not what got him to the U.S.Senate.
His college records also did not get him to the White House, especially since he got them sealed.

Isn't it ironic that his political career started by unsealing other people's records and yet he sealed his own.
Not only that but he was able to unseal his opponents records, but his records cannot be unsealed---not to this day.

No he floated into the White House because so many idiots thought it was a black man's turn.

 

[mamatutu]

What is relevant is that (1) he's greater than 35 years of age and (2) presumably can prove he was born in the United States. Wish we could say the same for the current resident at 1600 Penn Ave.

 

[mamatutu]

Just to get back to the title of the thread. not having a college degree seen as a negative thing. I am guessing this negative thing applies to these morons. Michael Dell, Henry Ford, Bill Gates, John D. Rockefeller, Steven Spielberg, Mark Zuckerberg, Walt Disney. I should be seen as so negative. Taken From http://www.interesticle.com/entertainment/10-richest-people-who-did-not-finish-college/

Interesting!

 

[PsyOps]

A conservative would NEVER dredge up inane information for the sole purpose of personal attacks! Insane information, yes, but never inane.

If you got it, have at it. That's not what this thread is about. Dean made an abysmally stupid statement and defending it only makes you look as idiotic as him. And saying "well, people on the right do it too" to justify it is childish.

To be honest, I'm fed up with all of the politicians attacking each other, talking about how bad they are - never talking about how good they are - dredging up the dumbest things in order to make their opponent look bad. Nothing constructive. Nothing to offer the voters in terms of real ideas and solutions. Completely devoid of any sort of substance of who THEY are and what they'll do. Never telling us how THEY will successful; only pointing out how the other guy is going to be a failure.

 

[vraiblonde]

Your problem is both venue and sample size. You don't have the best and bright teaching at community colleges

So you're saying the libs are dummies who teach at community college, and the best and brightest, who teach at private colleges, are conservatives?

 

[PeoplesElbow]

So you're saying the libs are dummies who teach at community college, and the best and brightest, who teach at private colleges, are conservatives?

Subject matters more, History, English, Sociology is where you are going to find those types.

 

[DipStick]

What reason *did* he give? I haven't really been following this story because 1) I was unaware that Scott Walker had actually declared himself; and 2) because having a college degree isn't a prerequisite for the presidency in my opinion, therefore has no bearing on whether or not I would vote for him should he go official.

I was responding to PrchJrkr, not something Scott Walker said.

I mean, I don't give a #### about whether he has a college degree or not. He, and millions of other Americans without a college degree, have become successful without one. But, you do see my point, yes? He's going to be asked why, when he's a semester shy, he doesn't go back and get his degree. :shrug:

 

[DipStick]

What is relevant is that (1) he's greater than 35 years of age and (2) presumably can prove he was born in the United States. Wish we could say the same for the current resident at 1600 Penn Ave.

We can.

 

[Hank]

We can.

Noooooo. Remember, the birth certificate is fake.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

I was responding to PrchJrkr, not something Scott Walker said.

I mean, I don't give a #### about whether he has a college degree or not. He, and millions of other Americans without a college degree, have become successful without one. But, you do see my point, yes? He's going to be asked why, when he's a semester shy, he doesn't go back and get his degree. :shrug:

I think it is stupid, but a lot of schools have a time limit of how long credits are good for, it is often fairly long though. The school I went to gave you a period of 10 years without being enrolled before your credits went poof.

 

[vraiblonde]

He's going to be asked why, when he's a semester shy, he doesn't go back and get his degree. :shrug:

Well, clearly he didn't need it.

In trying to find out why he quit school, I found this fun story:

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/article/2013/dec/18/scott-walker-early-years/

Walker: the inspiration for Rick Fritz.

But the official story is that Walker had a job with the Red Cross that was interfering with his studies, so he quit school to work there full time. He says he intended to go back and finish but he acquired a wife and child, and life got in the way. Plus he got on a career trajectory that didn't require a college degree. That sounds reasonable and I accept that explanation. The whole idea of getting a college degree is so you can get a certain type of job; so if you get the job you want anyway, why go back for that degree?

But I think it's hilarious that Howard Dean led the charge in busting on him, considering what an idiot he is.

 

[itsbob]

What reason *did* he give? I haven't really been following this story because 1) I was unaware that Scott Walker had actually declared himself; and 2) because having a college degree isn't a prerequisite for the presidency in my opinion, therefore has no bearing on whether or not I would vote for him should he go official.

He left college to go work for the Red Cross.. that wicked evil man..