teenageddirtbag
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I still say once the stick says you're pregnant, It's a baby. If a pregnancy at 2 weeks doesn't equal a baby, than what is it?
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I still say once the stick says you're pregnant, It's a baby. If a pregnancy at 2 weeks doesn't equal a baby, than what is it?
AndyMarquisLIVE
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so we got the virgin, and the man who was scorned in agreement about what the rest of us should do
Andy, when you grow up you will realize that people have sex more often than not, with the intention of NOT making a baby. If those people get pregnant and decide to have an abortion it is NONE of your business, it doens't affect your life in any way.....
More nothing from tommy.It's amazing that you people crucify gay people, or even people you ASSume are gay, every single day yet you have no problem with abortion. Some gay dudes getting married doesn't affect you either, so why are you people offended by it?
It's obviously not for religious purposes.
:shrug:
Xaquin44
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You and most everyone else .... most people are not lining up for an extra baby that isn't theirs. Adoption, (while wonderful in and of itself) is not the answer to abortion.
no .... this is a childs life we're talking about right? If abortions are suddenly outlawed a miscarriage should be investigated on grounds of murder right? I mean if it going to be called murder (as it already is by some (yourself included) it should be investigated right?
Dishonest how?
My guess would be almost the same number as have them now only much more discreetly and probably not as healthily.
It is murder. Viable embryos are implanted and generally (I can't really remember) 33% die. Even if one lives and one dies it is one life dying. Or is it some different life that just doesn't count?
This_person
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He told someone else earlier today he has me on ignore, so he couldn't have read where I explained my experience did not completely shape my views, but my logical thought process of right and wrong (comparing with other laws regarding the baby, and when that "clump of cells" is a life, etc). So, to paint me as "the man who was scorned" would be entirely inaccurate for the purposes of this discussion.I 100% agree with you.
However, I agree people have sex with no intention of having children. That's not the point. The point is, should they take that risk, they must live with the consequences, not KILL the consequences.
tommyjones
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It's amazing that you people crucify gay people, or even people you ASSume are gay, every single day yet you have no problem with abortion. Some gay dudes getting married doesn't affect you either, so why are you people offended by it?
It's obviously not for religious purposes.
:shrug:
i've been over on the other thread defending gays too, so get your shiat straight.
and seriously, you have no dog in the fight, so just keep out. You have absolutely no understanding hwat a woman would go through, or what it takes to raise a child. when you grow up, or come out, come back for a conversation with the big boys.
puggymom
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Of course!That's the whole point of the discussion - respectful (from most of us) exchange of ideas.
Personally:
From my experience being pregnant I considered my babies alive from getting that first, well second, no definatly the third digital test, (sorry a little trying to conceive humor) positive test.
Legally:
I do not believe this should be defined AT ALL by our government. I believe this should be a medical decision between doctor and patient. And I honestly believe a healthy woman would be hard pressed to find a doctor that is willing to do a late term abortion on a healthy fetus.
This_person
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Certainly some will. Some wanting out of parenthood now kill their kids (or attempt to) every week. Should THAT be legal? Should we remove THAT law, since people violate it anyway?
Certainly, if there is reason to suspect a murder, it should be investigated. The idea that EVERY miscarriage would be like a murder investigation, though, is pretty disingenuous. Certainly every case of SIDS is not immedidately investigated as a murder, nor is every car accident, geriatric death, etc., etc.
Xaquin44
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at what cost?
If you didn't want a child to the point where you considered killing it is that the kind of experience you'd want a child to be born into?
barring the fact that it's not your body or your business ....
rule by example .... go out and grab a kid from an agency. They need you.
Xaquin44
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good to see we're already setting the law to low standards, and abortions will go on unabated =)
Just more unsafe for the patients as they won't have actual doctors to aid them.
AndyMarquisLIVE
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Let's have some fun with this thread.
We're gonna play the tommyjones drinking game. Everytime he tries to insult me (because I'm somehow inferior for waiting to have sex instead of fukcing the first girl I see at the supermarket) by saying I'm a virgin or I'm gay and should have no opinion, everybody drink one down.
The code words to drink down are gay and virgin.
That should have me
by the end of the night.teenageddirtbag
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I still say once the stick says you're pregnant, It's a baby. If a pregnancy at 2 weeks doesn't equal a baby, than what is a pregnancy?
sockgirl77
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tommyjones
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Let's have some fun with this thread.
We're gonna play the tommyjones drinking game. Everytime he tries to insult me (because I'm somehow inferior for waiting to have sex instead of fukcing the first girl I see at the supermarket) by saying I'm a virgin or I'm gay and should have no opinion, everybody drink one down.
The code words to drink down are gay and virgin.
That should have me
the fact that you dont have a vigina is enough to say you shouldnt get a vote, the fact that you have never seen one is just funny.
you are clueless on this issue.
Xaquin44
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I'm pretty sure once the fertilized egg implants in the uterean lining (sp?) .... but even then the child can miscarry.
AndyMarquisLIVE
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That's all you've got to say. You seem to know women perfectly well, insulting them and such.
I'm sorry oh perfect one for having religious views and believing that people should be responsible.
Okay, fine. Let's defend abortion, and while at it, continue to tell little children it's okay for them to have sex at 10 and 12 and pop out babies at 14.
Who the #### do you think you are?
sockgirl77
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Vagina.
AndyMarquisLIVE
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If it's rape, I say go ahead with the abortion and charge the rapist, if he's caught, with murder. :shrug:
If it's consensual, I morally disagree with it.
teenageddirtbag
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exactly, the child can miscarry. meaning the pregnancy is a child and if you abort it, you're getting rid of a child.
tommyjones
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That's all you've got to say. You seem to know women perfectly well, insulting them and such.
I'm sorry oh perfect one for having religious views and believing that people should be responsible.
Okay, fine. Let's defend abortion, and while at it, continue to tell little children it's okay for them to have sex at 10 and 12 and pop out babies at 14.
Who the #### do you think you are?
wow, that post was all over the place.....
I got news for you, if you outlaw abortion, MORE underage girls will be having babies, not less.
and this country is not run by religion, and in this country, we have decided that it is a woman's right to choose
AndyMarquisLIVE
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What the hell, everybody drink one.
Okay, once again, here it is. I'm inferior to the almighty tommyjones because I am being responsible and waiting for the right person/time instead of ####ing every girl I see.