Politician: Discharge Muslims from U.S. Military

Starman3000m

New Member
Islamic nations do not allow non-Muslims from serving in their military.

The Pentagon should consider heeding the advice of the State Representative from Tennessee:

(video report)
First USA Politician to Call for the Discharge of All Muslims from the Military

State Rep. Womick (R-TN) calls for purging military of Muslim Americans. If you are educated about Islam and its theology as this politician is, this is the first common sense solution that needs to happen to address fighting the enemy and keeping our country safe.

Shoebat.com - First USA Politician to Call for the Discharge of All Muslims from the Military
 

Starman3000m

New Member
WTF does that mean?

Exactly as it reads. If you are not a Muslim, you cannot serve in the military of a Muslim nation. Seems they are more aware and conscientious about making sure their military personnel have the same goal in mind for maintaining Islam as their country's religion. Allowing non-Muslims into their military would compromise their own national security. Something that our own military leaders are beginning to find out regarding actions by Muslim soldiers within the ranks of U.S. armed forces.

Here are just a few excerpts and examples, from the Constitutions of the following Islamic countries ensuring that Islam is the priority:

From the Saudi Arabia Constitution:

Chapter 5 Rights and Duties

Article 23 [Islam]
The state protects Islam; it implements its Shari'ah; it orders people to do right and shun evil; it fulfills the duty regarding God's call.

Article 33 [Armed Forces]
The state establishes and equips the Armed Forces for the defence of the Islamic religion, the Two Holy Places, society, and the citizen.

Article 34 [Military Service]
The defence of the Islamic religion, society, and country is a duty for each citizen. The regime establishes the provisions of military service.

and;

From Iran's Constitution:

An Ideological Army (Preamble Excerpt of Iran)

In the formation and equipping of the country's defence forces, due attention must be paid to faith and ideology as the basic criteria. Accordingly, the Army of the Islamic Republic of Iran and the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps are to be organized in conformity with this goal, and they will be responsible not only for guarding and preserving the frontiers of the country, but also for fulfilling the ideological mission of jihad in God's way; that is, extending the sovereignty of God's law throughout the world (this is in accordance with the Koranic verse "Prepare against them whatever force you are able to muster, and strings of horses, striking fear into the enemy of God and your enemy, and others besides them" [8:60]).

Article 144 [Islamic Army]

The Army of the Islamic Republic of Iran must be an Islamic Army, i.e., committed to Islamic ideology and the people, and must recruit into its service individuals who have faith in the objectives of the Islamic Revolution and are devoted to the cause of realizing its goals.

and;

From Iraq's Constitution (Adopted 1990)
Article 4 [State Religion]
Islam is the religion of the State.

Article 28 [Educational Goals]
Education has the objective of raising and developing the general educational level, promoting scientific thinking, animating the research spirit, responding to exigencies of economic and social evolution and development programs, creating a national, liberal and progressive generation, strong physically and morally, proud of his people, his homeland and heritage, aware of all his national rights, and who struggles against the capitalistic ideology, exploitation, reaction, zionism, and imperialism for the purpose of realizing the Arab unity, liberty, and socialism.

and;

from Syria's Constitution:
Article 3 [Islam]

(1) The religion of the President of the Republic has to be Islam.
(2) Islamic jurisprudence is a main source of legislation.

and;

from Yemen's Constitution:
Article (1)

The Republic of Yemen is an Arab, Islamic and independent sovereign state whose integrity is inviolable, and no part of which may be ceded. The people of Yemen are part of theArab and Islamic nation.

Article (2)

Islam is the religion of the state, and Arabic is its official language.

Article (3)

Islamic Shari'ah is the source of all legislation.

and;

from Pakistan's Constitution:
So that the people of Pakistan may prosper and attain their rightful and honoured place amongst the nations of the World and make their full contribution towards international peace and progress and happiness of humanity :

Now, therefore, we, the people of Pakistan,

Cognisant of our responsibility before Almighty Allah and men;

Congnisant of the sacrifices made by the people in the cause of Pakistan;

Faithful to the declaration made by the Founder of Pakistan, Quaid-i-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah, that Pakistan would be a democratic State based on Islamic principles of social justice;
 
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awpitt

Main Streeter
Here are just a few excerpts and examples, from the Constitutions of the following Islamic countries ensuring that Islam is the priority:

Well, we don't operate under those constitutions. We operate under the U.S. Constitution which is a much better document.
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
Islamic nations do not allow non-Muslims from serving in their military.

The Pentagon should consider heeding the advice of the State Representative from Tennessee:

(video report)

So as I understand the rationale here, because Muslim countries don't allow the practice of Christiainity we should also ban the practice of the Muslim faith?
 

foodcritic

New Member
So as I understand the rationale here, because Muslim countries don't allow the practice of Christiainity we should also ban the practice of the Muslim faith?
No. But that does not mean we should allow them to serve. Reasonable people should realize that not EVERY group has a right to serve. Communists, anarchists, does the line ever get drawn? In our PC world it won't happen. But then again this country is in rapid decline anyway.
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
No. But that does not mean we should allow them to serve. Reasonable people should realize that not EVERY group has a right to serve. Communists, anarchists, does the line ever get drawn? In our PC world it won't happen. But then again this country is in rapid decline anyway.

This is absolutely not true. There are communists who serve. Although I’m not aware of any, I’m certain there are anarchists that serve. They don’t even ask if you are an anarchist, so how would they know? And they don’t ask what your political affiliation is either.

But there is that pesky little thing called the Constitution and First Amendment that even the DoD can’t violate. I’m astounded that intelligent people like you would even take such a terrible position.
 

pixiegirl

Cleopatra Jones
No. But that does not mean we should allow them to serve. Reasonable people should realize that not EVERY group has a right to serve. Communists, anarchists, does the line ever get drawn? In our PC world it won't happen. But then again this country is in rapid decline anyway.

Since when did these become religions?

Wasn't THIS country founded on freedom of religion?
 

pixiegirl

Cleopatra Jones
Exactly as it reads. If you are not a Muslim, you cannot serve in the military of a Muslim nation. Seems they are more aware and conscientious about making sure their military personnel have the same goal in mind for maintaining Islam as their country's religion. Allowing non-Muslims into their military would compromise their own national security. Something that our own military leaders are beginning to find out regarding actions by Muslim soldiers within the ranks of U.S. armed forces.

Here are just a few excerpts and examples, from the Constitutions of the following Islamic countries ensuring that Islam is the priority:

From the Saudi Arabia Constitution:

Chapter 5 Rights and Duties

Article 23 [Islam]
The state protects Islam; it implements its Shari'ah; it orders people to do right and shun evil; it fulfills the duty regarding God's call.

Article 33 [Armed Forces]
The state establishes and equips the Armed Forces for the defence of the Islamic religion, the Two Holy Places, society, and the citizen.

Article 34 [Military Service]
The defence of the Islamic religion, society, and country is a duty for each citizen. The regime establishes the provisions of military service.

and;

From Iran's Constitution:

An Ideological Army (Preamble Excerpt of Iran)

In the formation and equipping of the country's defence forces, due attention must be paid to faith and ideology as the basic criteria. Accordingly, the Army of the Islamic Republic of Iran and the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps are to be organized in conformity with this goal, and they will be responsible not only for guarding and preserving the frontiers of the country, but also for fulfilling the ideological mission of jihad in God's way; that is, extending the sovereignty of God's law throughout the world (this is in accordance with the Koranic verse "Prepare against them whatever force you are able to muster, and strings of horses, striking fear into the enemy of God and your enemy, and others besides them" [8:60]).

Article 144 [Islamic Army]

The Army of the Islamic Republic of Iran must be an Islamic Army, i.e., committed to Islamic ideology and the people, and must recruit into its service individuals who have faith in the objectives of the Islamic Revolution and are devoted to the cause of realizing its goals.and;

From Iraq's Constitution (Adopted 1990)
Article 4 [State Religion]
Islam is the religion of the State.

Article 28 [Educational Goals]
Education has the objective of raising and developing the general educational level, promoting scientific thinking, animating the research spirit, responding to exigencies of economic and social evolution and development programs, creating a national, liberal and progressive generation, strong physically and morally, proud of his people, his homeland and heritage, aware of all his national rights, and who struggles against the capitalistic ideology, exploitation, reaction, zionism, and imperialism for the purpose of realizing the Arab unity, liberty, and socialism.

and;

from Syria's Constitution:
Article 3 [Islam]

(1) The religion of the President of the Republic has to be Islam.
(2) Islamic jurisprudence is a main source of legislation.

and;

from Yemen's Constitution:
Article (1)

The Republic of Yemen is an Arab, Islamic and independent sovereign state whose integrity is inviolable, and no part of which may be ceded. The people of Yemen are part of theArab and Islamic nation.

Article (2)

Islam is the religion of the state, and Arabic is its official language.

Article (3)

Islamic Shari'ah is the source of all legislation.

and;

from Pakistan's Constitution:
So that the people of Pakistan may prosper and attain their rightful and honoured place amongst the nations of the World and make their full contribution towards international peace and progress and happiness of humanity :

Now, therefore, we, the people of Pakistan,

Cognisant of our responsibility before Almighty Allah and men;

Congnisant of the sacrifices made by the people in the cause of Pakistan;

Faithful to the declaration made by the Founder of Pakistan, Quaid-i-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah, that Pakistan would be a democratic State based on Islamic principles of social justice;

I don't see anything other than what's in pink that supports your original statement.

Aren't we "One nation under God?" Wasn't our constitution based on "christian" values?
 

libertytyranny

Dream Stealer
This is absolutely not true. There are communists who serve. Although I’m not aware of any, I’m certain there are anarchists that serve. They don’t even ask if you are an anarchist, so how would they know? And they don’t ask what your political affiliation is either.

But there is that pesky little thing called the Constitution and First Amendment that even the DoD can’t violate. I’m astounded that intelligent people like you would even take such a terrible position.

They ask if you are an anarchist when you apply for a clearance..I can imagine that would garner you a second look:coffee:
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
They ask if you are an anarchist when you apply for a clearance..I can imagine that would garner you a second look:coffee:

Everyone coming in needs to obtain a minimum of Secret (as far as I know). I have had clearances above that and never had to state whether I was an anarchist. Now when a poly, they did ask me then if I had participated in any activities that were organized by anarchists or part of any groups that were anarchists. I’m not trying to split hairs on this. I think there are regulations and policies against participating in anarchist activities, protests and such, but with the except of my poly I don’t ever remember being asked that question, verbally or on a form.
 

libertytyranny

Dream Stealer
Everyone coming in needs to obtain a minimum of Secret (as far as I know). I have had clearances above that and never had to state whether I was an anarchist. Now when a poly, they did ask me then if I had participated in any activities that were organized by anarchists or part of any groups that were anarchists. I’m not trying to split hairs on this. I think there are regulations and policies against participating in anarchist activities, protests and such, but with the except of my poly I don’t ever remember being asked that question, verbally or on a form.

The forms and paperwork do ask if you have ever been part of a group or activity that is anarchical (wait is that a word?) in nature. Overthrowing the govt, groups that prevent people from following the US constitution, etc..They don't ask if you have any feelings in that direction, just if youve acted on it, if thats a distinction you want to make. But it is inquired. and I bet if when they are doing interviews and everyone tells them you are a govt hater..you aren't getting a clearance :killingme
 

ItalianScallion

Harley Rider
I wouldn't sweat it folks. Once they have to shower with, workout with, carry them on their shoulders and fall on openly professing gays, it might just work itself out...:evil:
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
The forms and paperwork do ask if you have ever been part of a group or activity that is anarchical (wait is that a word?) in nature. Overthrowing the govt, groups that prevent people from following the US constitution, etc..They don't ask if you have any feelings in that direction, just if youve acted on it, if thats a distinction you want to make. But it is inquired. and I bet if when they are doing interviews and everyone tells them you are a govt hater..you aren't getting a clearance :killingme

Sorry I just don't remember being asked that.
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
I wouldn't sweat it folks. Once they have to shower with, workout with, carry them on their shoulders and fall on openly professing gays, it might just work itself out...:evil:

So, let me ask you... if you were in the military, out on the battlefield and the guy next to you is a Muslim and is doing what is expected to protect you, and fight the enemy with his life and he get injured...

You would...
 

foodcritic

New Member
So, let me ask you... if you were in the military, out on the battlefield and the guy next to you is a Muslim and is doing what is expected to protect you, and fight the enemy with his life and he get injured...

You would...

Is that really the issue? What it all boils down to is do we as a country want to discriminate against someone for a greater good. I don't think anyone and everyone should be able to enlist (or other services) and have no level of filtration.

Can you say Maj. Nasan.

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That was the PC version..... a lot of this boils down to the constitution and original intent or changing for the whims of the culture etc.
 

ItalianScallion

Harley Rider
So, let me ask you... if you were in the military, out on the battlefield and the guy next to you is a Muslim and is doing what is expected to protect you, and fight the enemy with his life and he get injured...

You would...
I was thinking that the muslims would be the ones to complain, that's why I said what I said. Did you really think the DADT policy wouldn't affect some of the troops negatively? And, after the Hasaan incident, didn't many things change in the minds of the soldiers?

Didn't they prohibit certain asians from joining our military in WW2 or was it WW1? I remember hearing about it somewhere...:shrug:
 

punjabigyrl

Active Member
Islamic nations do not allow non-Muslims from serving in their military.

The Pentagon should consider heeding the advice of the State Representative from Tennessee:

(video report)


For someone who thinks that islam is a religion of violence, hatred, falsehood etc. You sure follow it religiously. They sneeze and you have a post. Why not ignore it. The more attention you give, the MORE attention it(whatever it maybe) recieves.
 
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