elaine said:
No, I read it right - VERY right. I submit to no man and no man submits to me. Decisions in my life that AFFECT my life are MINE to make, either as a single person or as an equal partner in a relationship. I will NOT submit blindly to those being made for me because the Bible tells me that is my role in life. It is as I stated archaic and demeaning to women and I stand by my words.sleuth said:You must have read it wrong.
Different roles does not mean inequality.
This is how a minister similar to my own explained the "submission" of the wife...
More reading... http://www.urc-msu.org/mp3/Husbands&Wives2.htm
I'm sure he'll keep thumping his bible AND pounding salt!!!rack'm said:and yet another good topic shot to hell with religion.
I'm not shooting it to hell...rack'm said:and yet another good topic shot to hell with religion.
Guess that's why I ain't married. What a bunch of crap - some man comes up to me and tells me I've been sinful and need to submit to him because he's sinful and needs to love me, is either going to get laughed at, thrown in the looney bin, or have the crap beat out of him.sleuth said:You must have read it wrong.
Different roles does not mean inequality.
This is how a minister similar to my own explained the "submission" of the wife...
More reading... http://www.urc-msu.org/mp3/Husbands&Wives2.htm
sleuth said:I'm not shooting it to hell...
I just wanted to point it out that the Christian way isn't "demeaning" at all.
Anyway.. carry on... I'll leave the Bible out of it if no one wants to hear that perspective. I just believe that men were genetically programmed by God to like certain things about women, including physical attractiveness. :shrug:
While up in NYC, there were some brotha's in golden robes with a picture of Jesus laying on the side walk preaching to a group of women about this. A few of the women were yelling, I so wanted to join in on the fun but we were on the move.jazz lady said:No, I read it right - VERY right. I submit to no man and no man submits to me. Decisions in my life that AFFECT my life are MINE to make, either as a single person or as an equal partner in a relationship. I will NOT submit blindly to those being made for me because the Bible tells me that is my role in life. It is as I stated archaic and demeaning to women and I stand by my words.
That is EXACTLY my point. I think there are a lot of wonderful things in the Bible, but it was written by men in a totally different atmosphere than today and no longer apply.elaine said:The bible, written by man, tell's us that women should choose to be submissive to men. BWAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAA
ylexot said:Sorry, but it's only being "shot to hell by religion" because people find it necessary to beat up sleuth for his beliefs.
ylexot said:Sorry, but it's only being "shot to hell by religion" because people find it necessary to beat up sleuth for his beliefs.
sleuth said:I'm not shooting it to hell...
I just wanted to point it out that the Christian way isn't "demeaning" at all. "Submit" means something very different to a Biblical God than it does today.
Anyway.. carry on... I'll leave the Bible out of it if no one wants to hear that perspective. I just believe that men were genetically programmed by God to like certain things about women, including physical attractiveness. :shrug:
ylexot said:Sorry, but it's only being "shot to hell by religion" because people find it necessary to beat up sleuth for his beliefs.
pixiegirl said:Ok, ok I'll let you smack my arse and call me Suzie.
Fact of the matter is this...RoseRed said:The did not start out as a Christian thread, you turned it into one.
In what fashion? Posting them on a forum? I saw him post his opinion and get attacked for it.rack'm said:I disagree……he’s welcomed to his beliefs and religion, but there is no need to combine the two in this fashion.
If you want to discuss the Christian view, take it to the Religion forum. But Sleuth put it out here and I'm going to give MY opinion back.RoseRed said:The did not start out as a Christian thread, you turned it into one.