Question for the men...

mAlice

professional daydreamer
ylexot said:
In what fashion? Posting them on a forum? I saw him post his opinion and get attacked for it.


Since when is having an opposing opinion attacking someone?
 

ylexot

Super Genius
elaine said:
Who's beating him up? :rolleyes: He's free to post his nonsense in the religious forums and we're all supposed to suck it up and keep our opinions to ourselves. If he doesn't want our opinions, then he should keep it in the religion forum. This was a perfectly civil discussion about relationships before he put his religious two cents in.
He stated his opinion about relationships. His opinion involves religion. Does that mean that he's not allowed to post his opinion here and must keep it to the religion forum? I don't think so...but that's just my opinion.
 

sleuth

Livin' Like Thanksgivin'
elaine said:
Who's beating him up? :rolleyes: He's free to post his nonsense in the religious forums and we're all supposed to suck it up and keep our opinions to ourselves. If he doesn't want our opinions, then he should keep it in the religion forum. This was a perfectly civil discussion about relationships before he put his religious two cents in.

Some would say that religion is all about relationships.
Whether you like it or not, religion doesn't end at the link inside the religious forum. It's pervasive, it affects all aspects of my life, including my relationships, and I'm not going to let you or anyone else tell me I can't talk about God anywhere I choose to.

And if someone bashes me, deletes my posts, or my threads, or bans me from the forum, then it was my choice to continue to that point. I'll be happy to live with the consequences. I chose it. I'll sleep with it.
 

mAlice

professional daydreamer
sleuth said:
Some would say that religion is all about relationships.
Whether you like it or not, religion doesn't end at the link inside the religious forum. It's pervasive, it affects all aspects of my life, including my relationships, and I'm not going to let you or anyone else tell me I can't talk about God anywhere I choose to.

And if someone bashes me, deletes my posts, or my threads, or bans me from the forum, then it was my choice to continue to that point. I'll be happy to live with the consequences. I chose it. I'll sleep with it.


I'm out of this discussion. :rolleyes:
 

rack'm

Jaded
ylexot said:
In what fashion? Posting them on a forum? I saw him post his opinion and get attacked for it.

How is telling him not to bring religion into it an attack??

I could see it if this was www.somd.religion.com/forums, but it isn't.

UFB! The sensitivity in this forum is ridiculous. :duh:


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migtig

aka Mrs. Giant
sleuth said:
Fact of the matter is this...
The question posed was something to the effect of why men are the way they are toward women. Why we feel the way we do about physical attraction.

My answer is simply this. Because that's the way we were designed.
That's what I believe.

Now, there could have been a hundred different answers to the original question. I answered with the one I believed.

If that makes it a Christian thread, it's your problem, not mine.
That's fine Sleuth - and I kinda agree with you - our genetic survival instincts do play a part in what we find attractive.

However, what made it religious was all your "women must submit" crap. :rolleyes: Which is a bunch of fooey to me, and then you made it a Christian issue with your talk of your minister and sermons and what the bible says and yada yada - see the problem?!
 

Toxick

Splat
rack'm said:
I disagree……he’s welcomed to his beliefs and religion, but there is no need to combine the two in this fashion.



You mean having an an opinion, and then having the audacity to actually post it here?

I didn't know that the subject of religion was banned from discussion - or even mentioning - outside of the religious forums.




Are there any other subjects that we shouldn't broach here in public so as not to tweak the noggins of the hypersensitive?
 

RoseRed

American Beauty
PREMO Member
sleuth said:
Some would say that religion is all about relationships.

I am not some. Religion has absolutely nothing to do with my life or relationships. Do I need to be saved or will I burn in purgatory?
 

sleuth

Livin' Like Thanksgivin'
migtig said:
That's fine Sleuth - and I kinda agree with you - our genetic survival instincts do play a part in what we find attractive.

However, what made it religious was all your "women must submit" crap. :rolleyes: Which is a bunch of fooey to me, and then you made it a Christian issue with your talk of your minister and sermons and what the bible says and yada yada - see the problem?!
Yeah, Mig, I can kinda see your point.
But there's a blurry line there. We were talking about relationships just as much as we were talking about physical attractiveness. So I simply explained a little bit about my opinion on relationships, and the reason I brought in the sermon and stuff is quite simply because I didn't think I could say it any better than that guy.

I'm not trying to ram my opinion down anyone's throat. I posted it for people to agree or disagree with. And if they disagree with it but then turn around and tell me I'm full of crap, I'm going to stand up for my position.

All I know is that the people I know who strive to follow the Biblical description of a husband and wife, seem to be pretty happy couples. Are there happy couples that don't follow it? Yeah, probably, but I know a lot more unhappy couples that don't follow it than there are unhappy couples who do follow it.
 

sleuth

Livin' Like Thanksgivin'
RoseRed said:
I am not some. Religion has absolutely nothing to do with my life or relationships. Do I need to be saved or will I burn in purgatory?
Did I ever attack you or tell you that you would be banned to purgatory?
Get a grip. I offered up my view, period.

And I never said you were "some". You are who you are. Whether you fit in the "somes" or "mosts" as I describe them is not up to me. That's why I didn't use the word "all."

:duh:
 

RoseRed

American Beauty
PREMO Member
sleuth said:
Did I ever attack you or tell you that you would be banned to purgatory?
Get a grip. I offered up my view, period.

And I never said you were "some". You are who you are. Whether you fit in the "somes" or "mosts" as I describe them is not up to me. That's why I didn't use the word "all."

:duh:

I have a grip and it is rather firm TYVM.
 

jazz lady

~*~ Rara Avis ~*~
PREMO Member
migtig said:
That's fine Sleuth - and I kinda agree with you - our genetic survival instincts do play a part in what we find attractive.

However, what made it religious was all your "women must submit" crap. :rolleyes: Which is a bunch of fooey to me, and then you made it a Christian issue with your talk of your minister and sermons and what the bible says and yada yada - see the problem?!
We are at the root of it all still animals and still have the same urges and needs, even with the thin veneer of civilization. That I don't disagree with.

But like mig says, the "women must submit" stuff just rubs me the wrong way. If it works for you and your woman, by all means go for it. But I see too many relationships based on religion become a master/slave relationship and it greatly saddens me to see women so oppressed they no longer have their own identity.
 

migtig

aka Mrs. Giant
sleuth said:
Yeah, Mig, I can kinda see your point.
But there's a blurry line there. We were talking about relationships just as much as we were talking about physical attractiveness. So I simply explained a little bit about my opinion on relationships, and the reason I brought in the sermon and stuff is quite simply because I didn't think I could say it any better than that guy.

I'm not trying to ram my opinion down anyone's throat. I posted it for people to agree or disagree with. And if they disagree with it but then turn around and tell me I'm full of crap, I'm going to stand up for my position.

All I know is that the people I know who strive to follow the Biblical description of a husband and wife, seem to be pretty happy couples. Are there happy couples that don't follow it? Yeah, probably, but I know a lot more unhappy couples that don't follow it than there are unhappy couples who do follow it.
And I don't know any healthy whole relationship where the woman is submissive - except where the couples play s&m games. Otherwise, if the relationship is healthy - she is a partner, an equal. Your submissive crap is crap. Believe whatever ya want - I don't care - but be careful some woman doesn't slam ya with a baseball bat when you order her to submit. :lmao:

BTW, any man thinking I need to submit to his will if I am not playing at S&M, is extremely unattractive to me. JMO
 

sleuth

Livin' Like Thanksgivin'
jazz lady said:
We are at the root of it all still animals and still have the same urges and needs, even with the thin veneer of civilization. That I don't disagree with.

But like mig says, the "women must submit" stuff just rubs me the wrong way. If it works for you and your woman, by all means go for it. But I see too many relationships based on religion become a master/slave relationship and it greatly saddens me to see women so oppressed they no longer have their own identity.
And those are exactly the kinds I was talking about when I posted about the "curse".
 
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