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Should Non-Christians celebrate Christmas?
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Zguy28
New Member
This is quite true.
There is a great article that goes into Christmas here: http://www.theopedia.com/Christmas
Beta84
They're out to get us
tell that to the majority of americans who primarily celebrate celebrate with a tree, wreath, and presents.
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ItalianScallion
Harley Rider
Airhead...
I just can't thank you enough for all those compliments. Coming from you, they mean even more than you know, even though this is typical when the saved and the lost go at it. Thanks again!Wow...after reading ItallianScallions response to me, I've decided he's brainwashed and possibly insane. No use arguing with that anymore because there's no convincing someone like that.
The blind cannot see this so they keep repeating the same things.
They're not equipped to understand that we're IN the world but not OF it. When I put up a tree and some window lights, I do it to remember the wonderful family that God has given me. I DO NOT worship the tree & lights! I recall the wonderful memories and the happiness that my late Dad & Mom and my relatives provided for me as a child. They're the best part of my childhood.
When I hear the Christmas music and watch some of the shows that I watch, I feel closer to God and I sing praises to Him through those songs. I SEE NO PAGANISM IN THAT so I wish they wouldn't try to push that "Christmas is pagan" belief on me.
The forum atheist went to church???
Beta84
They're out to get us
you call others airheads when you're mindless yourself. you don't question anything, you're just a submissive drone. way to go
ItalianScallion
Harley Rider
you call others airheads when you're mindless yourself. you don't question anything, you're just a submissive drone. way to go
Beta84
They're out to get us
no, not at all. You blindly accept everything spoon-fed to you in the Bible even though the Bible was written largely in part after Jesus's death (so who was writing it and where were they getting his information from??) and then translated time and time again, likely screwing up some of the actual intent. Yet you blindly follow it. When posed a pretty logical question you went ahead and said "well that's what Jesus said, so that's how it must go. If you don't believe in him you will go to hell even if you are a great person. Haha see you should believe in him!"
Yeah, that makes sense.
ItalianScallion
Harley Rider
"Blindly accept everything"? Hardly, son!no, not at all. You blindly accept everything spoon-fed to you in the Bible even though the Bible was written largely in part after Jesus's death (so who was writing it and where were they getting his information from??) and then translated time and time again, likely screwing up some of the actual intent. Yet you blindly follow it. When posed a pretty logical question you went ahead and said "well that's what Jesus said, so that's how it must go. If you don't believe in him you will go to hell even if you are a great person. Haha see you should believe in him!"
Yeah, that makes sense.
And the Bible was complied wayyy after Jesus death but all of the OT was already written before it. Plus there are more books in the OT than in the NT; 39 & 27 respectively. Only Jesus body died after the crucifixion, not His "God" side so He was still there for the writers. God never "dies".
Sorry, no translation problems in most Bibles that are significant enough to mislead someone away from salvation. Those that are misled are the lost and they aren't able to understand the majority of it anyhow.
My story:
I was forced into a lot (17 years) of Catholic doctrine as a child and I hated it so I made the choice to drop most of it for good right before I turned 18. Later, I tried to go back there but I couldn't because I felt it was wrong, so I kept searching for the truth. I got the "call" (that's right, the call) from God in July of 1989 and found what I was searching for. At no time did I ever "blindly accept everything" that I read or was told. I understood the call and accepted it but I was cautious about what I would believe. I did the research on what the Bible said before I accepted it and the more I read it, the more it rang true. The more I studied, the more I saw how it could only be from a divine source, not human.
You still didn't answer my question. Do you believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob or not?
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Cowgirl
Well-Known Member
you call others airheads when you're mindless yourself. you don't question anything, you're just a submissive drone. way to go
It's ok. People typical throw insults when they don't have anything better to say.
ItalianScallion
Harley Rider
The word is typically btw, and it's typical of people to twist things around when they don't have anything constructive to say.
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ItalianScallion
Harley Rider
Just for you CG, to show you that I said NOT ALL (see bold above). You're the one who made the DUH statement, hence the "airhead" comment, so don't get all frazzled at me about YOUR shortcoming...Yes shortcoming. You said you're a non believer so you fit into the latter category.
The forum atheist went to church???
unlike you, i dont live my life in ignorance, intolerance and fear.
I am actually quite educated on several religions. Just because i dont believe that an old book contains the true word of god, doesn't mean that i dont have family and traditions that we enjoy. I dont judge people because they choose to believe the fairy tale they were fed as children (chronologically or mentally). You should try to do the same for people with differing beliefs considering not judging is supposed to be a christian goal.
Like i said, the church recognizes that it usurped a pagan holiday to help with conversion, accept it or dont, but that is what happened.
Beta84
They're out to get us
Cowgirl
Well-Known Member
The word is typically btw, and it's typical of people to twist things around when they don't have anything constructive to say.
Oh gee, a typo. You're such a better person than me.
Just for you CG, to show you that I said NOT ALL (see bold above). You're the one who made the DUH statement, hence the "airhead" comment, so don't get all frazzled at me about YOUR shortcoming...Yes shortcoming. You said you're a non believer so you fit into the latter category.
When mAlice said she didn't know her biological father, you said that was the reason she's an athiest. You said in "some cases" that's the cause of athiesm, but you assumed it was the case with her, even though she said it's not. But no, you decided you knew the reasons behind her beliefs even when you don't know her.
But *I'm* the airhead. Ok. 
And you're saying it's a shortcoming that I'm an athiest? I disagree.
ItalianScallion
Harley Rider
It's great that you have your family & traditions but if you believe the last 4 lines of your statement, you've contradicted the first one. You can study and know about every belief system out there but education means nothing if you deny the truth.
And if you really were "educated", you'd know that Jesus said not to judge wrongly and to judge correctly...but you're soo educated so I'm sure you knew that.
You should read up on Gnosticism and see the flaws of it.That's not my quote...
I said it was one of the most common reasons and it just happened to ring true here, so I was right.When mAlice said she didn't know her biological father, you said that was the reason she's an athiest. You said in "some cases" that's the cause of athiesm, but you assumed it was the case with her, even though she said it's not. But no, you decided you knew the reasons behind her beliefs even when you don't know her.
And you're saying it's a shortcoming that I'm an athiest? I disagree.
It is a shortcoming but you can deny it if you want...
mAlice
professional daydreamer
It's great that you have your family & traditions but if you believe the last 4 lines of your statement, you've contradicted the first one. You can study and know about every belief system out there but education means nothing if you deny the truth.
And if you really were "educated", you'd know that Jesus said not to judge wrongly and to judge correctly...but you're soo educated so I'm sure you knew that.
That's not my quote...
I said it was one of the most common reasons and it just happened to ring true here, so I was right.
It is a shortcoming but you can deny it if you want...
You're exactly like the people who turned me off to "your" truth. Christians are so filled with hatred. It's sad, really.
PsyOps
Pixelated
I happen to think this broad-brushed statement pretty hateful myself. Equally sad.
mAlice
professional daydreamer
Good. You'll never confuse me with a hypocritical christian.
ItalianScallion
Harley Rider
There's not one ounce of hatred in any of those words. Where is it mAlice? Show me! The only hatred is what you choose to read into it. The problem is YOU mAlice but you refuse to admit it. Many rescue boats have come your way but you waved them by.
I've spent the last three years on here trying to tell people the truth to save them from Hell. Many have rejected it, ridiculed me and listened to their father the devil, who deceives them daily. I've tried to help you but if you want to choose hell as your final home, you can do so but my conscience is clear because I have told you the truth.
You think that what I say is narrow minded? Wait until you meet the most narrow minded person of all time who lost His life trying to do what I'm doing.
This world is 180 degrees out of whack with God. Wait until He straightens it out. You'd better have the right God on your side then!
Why the heck do you think I do this every day? I get no brownie points for it. Many of you on here are hell bound FOOLS and I wish you'd wake up! When you do meet this Jesus (AND YOU WILL) that none of you believe in, you will NOT have a chance to change your eternal destiny! Then what?
Jesus said that you all would hate us, so it's to be expected but to say that you ALL have "done the research"??? BS! You've been lied to and misled! That doesn't sound like hate speech to me folks! That sounds like a rescue mission from a very concerned person.
Part of me wants to be compassionate to you and part of me wants to scream at you. Lady, you wouldnt know hatred if it shook your hand!
Rant over!
Isn't is SAD how the same people on here who regularly call me hateful are the same people who hate God and His message of love?