OccamsRazor
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Got my weekly usage report. Apparently, I used the most electricity on a Monday. With peak usage at 3PM (During the work day) and also, apparently my home used ZERO electricity on Thursday of that week. Amazing!
SMECO raises rates 25% per KWH effective Feb 1st.
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The better designed ones do have regenerative braking, which does feed some bit of trickle charge back into the battery.
Maybe require the roof of the things be made of solar cells?
OccamsRazor
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All of my bills have shown a comparable energy usage to last year. My costs however, have doubled. I thought it was only a 25% increase?
glhs837
Power with Control
Nah, you get less there than you do from regen. Some Model S owners have measured a 30% recapture driving up and then back down a hill. Lighter cars will gain less, of course. Somebody asked Musk about making the Cybertruck tonneu out of solar cells and he said you get maybe 5-6 miles a day with good sun. I dont think he was going to bother, but they kept pestering so he said it might be an option.
kom526
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Yup, He's right. The amount of charge from solar cells on a car is almost nothing to help extend range.
However, solar cells on a car would help to maintain the 12 volt battery (like the cameras that are on 24/7) and maybe supplement the HVAC that needs to run to keep the computer cool while parked on a hot day.
glhs837
Power with Control
For me, not enough to lose that panoramic roof that Tesla does so well. This is a model, but shows what I mean. We know there are changes to the truck for production, but I don't think that basic fact will change. If I need it that bad I'll buy some deployable cells.
woogie
Active Member
Pay more of (insert here whatever) and get even LESS! Same, same. Another day in the Peoples' Demokratik Socialist Republik of Maryland.
(aka: the california of the East Coast).
Solution to the problem(s): Deprive them of your hard earned money! Escape to a freer state while you still can!
(aka: the california of the East Coast).
Solution to the problem(s): Deprive them of your hard earned money! Escape to a freer state while you still can!
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Electric vehicles. I am thinking about electric vehicles. The photo is a copy of some literature sent to us by our local electrical utility, SMECO. I'd like to draw your attention to the charging info at the bottom of the page. There are three columns of info.
The first column represents typical household power outlets being used to charge the EV. That setup can charge 3 to 5 miles per hour, so an 8 hour overnight charge would provide 24 to 40 miles of driving.
The second column represents an outlet configured at higher voltage and (typically) amps like for a stove/oven or dryer. It charges 10 -20 miles per hour. This means an 8 hour charge provides 80 to 160 miles of driving.
The third column is three phase power is considered industrial power. Think commercial charging stations. In 20 minutes, they provide 60 to 80 miles of driving.
These numbers may work in an urban/suburban setting, but I do not believe they work in a rural setting like St. Mary's County. I also believe the high electrical bills currently being lamented in this area are going to keep going up in order to build/buy power to increase power availability.
Electric vehicles. I am thinking about electric vehicles. The photo is a copy of some literature sent to us by our local electrical utility, SMECO. I'd like to draw your attention to the charging info at the bottom of the page. There are three columns of info.
The first column represents typical household power outlets being used to charge the EV. That setup can charge 3 to 5 miles per hour, so an 8 hour overnight charge would provide 24 to 40 miles of driving.
The second column represents an outlet configured at higher voltage and (typically) amps like for a stove/oven or dryer. It charges 10 -20 miles per hour. This means an 8 hour charge provides 80 to 160 miles of driving.
The third column is three phase power is considered industrial power. Think commercial charging stations. In 20 minutes, they provide 60 to 80 miles of driving.
These numbers may work in an urban/suburban setting, but I do not believe they work in a rural setting like St. Mary's County. I also believe the high electrical bills currently being lamented in this area are going to keep going up in order to build/buy power to increase power availability.
I'm working on the final details for an off-grid electric generation system for our island club. We're designing for a peak output of 25kw and an average of about 16kw. Going to require roughly 1000 square feet of solar panels and a lot of batteries...not settled on the total battery capacity yet. A 25kw diesel generator is part of the system, and will automatically start up if the battery capacity drops too low. I'll post updates once the design is finalized...in a separate thread. I'm learning a lot as this project progresses, knowledge that I hope to eventually put to use for our personal property.
We wanted to include a small 5kw (peak) wind turbine but discovered that a special permit is required for those around here due to Pax River air space restrictions. Which is total BS because the turbine we're considering isn't any taller than the damned trees nearby. Might fight that battle later on and still add a turbine or two.
We wanted to include a small 5kw (peak) wind turbine but discovered that a special permit is required for those around here due to Pax River air space restrictions. Which is total BS because the turbine we're considering isn't any taller than the damned trees nearby. Might fight that battle later on and still add a turbine or two.
sunshine98
Active Member
If you have an Elon-mobile, home charging is 30-44 miles per hour, so you get a full "tank" overnight. Superchargers claim 200 miles of charge in 15 minutes, but we've never seen that much. It also depends how they wired the superchargers - I swear some businesses with a bank of superchargers have them on one feeder, so if it's busy, you get a slow charge.
Not sure how the electric grid would hold up if everyone switched to EV's.
Not sure how the electric grid would hold up if everyone switched to EV's.
Expanding the electrical grid reminds me of what we used to call unrealized computer software - it is known as Vapor Ware because it only exists in the vapor of peoples minds. The same thing applies to everyone going all EV with the current (pun intended) technology for generating electric power - we can't do it. Dreamers say go ahead because we can create the new technology when we need it. Dreamers are also known as people with pie-in-the-sky ideas. I say, PROVE IT by creating that new technology for power generation, then we can all go EV. Don't tell me we will do it later when you are forcing us to go EV now.
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Sneakers
Just sneakin' around....
Good luck. My only comment is that I repeatedly see horror stories from people using LiFePO4 batteries. When working they have great charging and discharging specs and seems to be the "goto" battery of choice, but the rate of failure is very high, even from reputable dealers. Most of the time it's an individual cell that fails, but it renders the entire battery useless. A LiFePO4 battery also requires a BMS (battery management system), a small circuit board in the battery. It also has a high problematic history, turns off unexpectedly, doesn't pass the current it's rated for.... again, rendering the battery useless.
Between cost and reliability, I'd stick with AGMs if you want a known expectancy with good availability and ability to recycle.
The complete system has a very high-end overall power management system and inverters...over $8000 in total for all the do-dads and capability. We're stil debating the battery type though..your points being why its still under discussion. We have a guy working this project design that is more expert than I by far on these exact off-grid setups.
jrt_ms1995
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Can't you have SGI do it as collateral duty during the 15 minutes of lunch/break time you allow him per day?
15-minute lunch break??? Shirley you jest....Can't you have SGI do it as collateral duty during the 15 minutes of lunch/break time you allow him per day?
Besides, he took 15 minutes of break time to put on his makeup this morning. (He puts on blackface every other week so that we can show we're meeting our employee diversity goals).
