So are they just going to keep making up charges to file against Trump?

StmarysCity79

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The President can direct the AG to investigate criminal activity. The AG, as well as all cabinet members, serve at the pleasure of the President and either do as directed or be fired.

Well, duh! They might not be able to charge anyone, but they can direct an investigation against someone. And who is "advocating for a dictatorship"? You seem to be the only one doing that by agreeing with baseless indictments against free and protected speech.

And neither can you.


There was nothing to investigate according to the FBI.

Are you not paying attention?

Stop beating a dead horse.

And now you complain that the AG and FBI are doing too much investigating of Trump.

You are a sycophant.
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
There was nothing to investigate according to the FBI.

Are you not paying attention?

Stop beating a dead horse.
From your own post earlier - "Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information,"

So why didn't they investigate?
And now you complain that the AG and FBI are doing too much investigating of Trump.

You are a sycophant.
No, I am complaining that the investigations ongoing are making crimes of free speech, you know like in the dictatorships you approve of.
 

StmarysCity79

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From your own post earlier - "Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information,"

So why didn't they investigate?

No, I am complaining that the investigations ongoing are making crimes of free speech, you know like in the dictatorships you approve of.



Potential*. They did investigate! This was the conclusion, Why are you so stubbornly wrong when the information is freely available



He could say and question the results until he was blue in the face

What he is being charged with is:

A scheme to defraud the government and the county but substituting fake electors for the actual ones.

Threatening the GA rep to come up with fake votes

Claiming fraud when he knew none had occured.

Please educate yourself as to what the actual charges are.
 

Hijinx

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When Comey stated that no reasonable would bring such a case he was correct, but is what is left unsaid is that Smith and the Georgia AG are not reasonable they are not fair or honest, and they are not working to bring a fugitive to Justice they are working to involve themselves in a democrat plot to destroy the leading candidate in the next election, they are IMO criminally trying to stop the American electorate from choosing who they choose to be President.
They are doing exactly what they accused the Russians of doing and it was Democrats not Russians doing it.
They are a part of a criminal conspiracy to destroy the election process.
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
Potential*. They did investigate! This was the conclusion, Why are you so stubbornly wrong when the information is freely available
They didn't investigate, didn't need to as these acts had already had the statute of limitations clock run out.
He could say and question the results until he was blue in the face

What he is being charged with is:

A scheme to defraud the government and the county but substituting fake electors for the actual ones.

Threatening the GA rep to come up with fake votes

Claiming fraud when he knew none had occured.

Please educate yourself as to what the actual charges are.
The actual charges aren't a crime, they are nothing more than stitching together segments of legal activity to make it look like a crime. That is what prosecutors do when they unethically seek to pass their BS off to a grand jury in hopes of having a true bill returned.

Hell, I'm waiting for one of these asshats to charge him with wearing white after Labor Day.
 

StmarysCity79

Well-Known Member
When Comey stated that no reasonable would bring such a case he was correct, but is what is left unsaid is that Smith and the Georgia AG are not reasonable they are not fair or honest, and they are not working to bring a fugitive to Justice they are working to involve themselves in a democrat plot to destroy the leading candidate in the next election, they are IMO criminally trying to stop the American electorate from choosing who they choose to be President.
They are doing exactly what they accused the Russians of doing and it was Democrats not Russians doing it.
They are a part of a criminal conspiracy to destroy the election process.


That's great. And you are entitled to that opinion. Just as Trump was entitled the opinion that he won.


The facts are what matters

However, can you disprove what the indictment says and what the Georgia. MI and Az officials have attested to under oath?

That Trump tried to pressure them to come up with additional votes that both parties knew did not exist?

Can you disprove what the indictment alleges and what Pence has testified to under oath that Trump brought a slate of fake lectors and asked him to use those to allow him to get the 270 electoral votes he needed to claim the presidency despite not having the electoral votes to win?

Because that is what matters.

The facts.
 

Bare-ya-cuda

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You forgot about the Republican FBI director Comey who was investigating Clinton even during the election and who said

"As a result, although the Department of Justice makes final decisions on matters like this, we are expressing to Justice our view that no charges are appropriate in this case."

Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. Prosecutors necessarily weigh a number of factors before bringing charges. There are obvious considerations, like the strength of the evidence, especially regarding intent. Responsible decisions also consider the context of a person’s actions, and how similar situations have been handled in the past.

In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here.
Seems like everyone has forgotten about that little visit in a plane between bill Clinton and the attorney general at the time. After that is when the decision was made not to charge Hillary.
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
Hillary laughing at Trump getting indicted really pissed me off.
She fully deserves to be in jail and should be in hiding, not laughing at a former President.
 

PrchJrkr

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Potential*. They did investigate! This was the conclusion, Why are you so stubbornly wrong when the information is freely available



He could say and question the results until he was blue in the face

What he is being charged with is:

A scheme to defraud the government and the county but substituting fake electors for the actual ones.

Threatening the GA rep to come up with fake votes

Claiming fraud when he knew none had occured.

Please educate yourself as to what the actual charges are.
"This is your brain on drugs."
 

3CATSAILOR

Well-Known Member
This is such an obvious attempt to tie him up and keep him off the campaign trail and away from the debates I'm surprised we haven't risen up and put all their heads on a pike.

I don't really understand how the disgusting scumbag Democrats can get away with this.
The 2024 election will be interesting.
 

DaSDGuy

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ATLANTA, GA — In yet another stunning move, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis has announced the indictment of every Trump voter on charges of conspiracy to elect an election denier.

"Those who engaged in criminal conspiracy to vote for that yucky fart-face Donald Trump will be brought to justice," Willis said as she announced the hundreds of thousands of indictments. "These MAGA voters committed the heinous act of disagreeing with the ruling elites, which threatens the bedrock of democracy itself. In order to keep Donald Trump from regaining power, we must deal with his legion of domestic terrorist voters. No one is above the laws that we made up for this indictment."


 

SamSpade

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PREMO Member
Actually - it’s the sheer ridiculous number of indictments that convinces me MOST that it’s all crap. Just political crap.

For one thing - has anyone in American history faced anything like this? You know, serial killers, mob bosses, cartel heads? Because when they finally give up raising more charges, it’s going into Guinness. I’m sorry but no one ever gets this much thrown at them.

But moreover - it’s not as though we haven’t had Presidents worthy of this kind of scrutiny - but generally once they’re out of office, the country sighs and moves on. NO NEED to pursue further. It’s done.

So why Trump? Well just ASK THEM. They’ll say he can still be elected! He can still be back in the White House! Somehow oblivious to that statement with regard to what we’ve been saying. This is political to keep him from being re-elected. Oh fuss all you want about right-wing conspiracy stuff. You know that the moment he says he’s not running, the indictments will go away. No one on the left cares beyond that.

I mean, from their own mouths they don’t want THE VOTERS to keep him from the White House. God forbid they might choose that guy y’all hate over a doddering fool whose mental farts are now a daily thing. ((Yeah, there’s websites for this). They’re so fearful that the voters might choose him over a brain-dead zombie, they have to do what’s never been done - try to jail an opponent.
 

SamSpade

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PREMO Member
I'm getting a stomach ache just thinking about it. After watching the covid hoax and how they stole the 2020 election without any repercussion, it just makes me sick.
It seems to me they realize now they don’t need a message or shifting demographics. They can just keep doing it every election cycle without repercussions.

I keep saying that Project Veritas needs to declare they INTEND TO CHEAT the same way the Dems did, to either get away with it or else compel them to address it.

We have more registered voters - than eligible voters. By a few MILLION..
 

Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member
It seems to me they realize now they don’t need a message or shifting demographics. They can just keep doing it every election cycle without repercussions.

I keep saying that Project Veritas needs to declare they INTEND TO CHEAT the same way the Dems did, to either get away with it or else compel them to address it.

We have more registered voters - than eligible voters. By a few MILLION..
Keep in mind, it's more important "Who Counts The Votes" than How Many Votes are cast.
 

SamSpade

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PREMO Member
Keep in mind, it's more important "Who Counts The Votes" than How Many Votes are cast.
And you know, when I first read about that, I shrugged. A lot of the bluster over how many votes came in per precinct, YES, it was weird that an election suddenly JUMPED in voter participation - so much so, that a lot of analysis got trumped up. You know, comparisons to votes CAST versus eligible voters - but naysayers would say, yabbut, smaller than number of registered voters.

Well THAT is the problem, isn't it? Not JUST the fact that there's more registered voters than should be - but that they're VOTING.

I still think the only serious way to get the Dems to address cheating is to scare the crap out of them that the GOP might do it too, and pull the SAME STUNTS.

I DO believe that the Dems so strongly believe in their issues, that they don't give a crap if they're not voted upon in their favor. Again - they don't CARE if the people don't want it, they believe it should happen and the choice of the people can go climb a tree. But since it isn't selling well, they DO have to rely on - stunts. Manipulating the courts; changing election laws AFTER election day; ballot harvesting - anything to push them over the edge.

You know, I keep thinking how so much of the left has lost its mind over Trump saying he wants people to find those votes. That's kind of a nothing burger - that's something anyone might say, especially on the Hill. But you HAVE noticed, over the years, whenever they do a recount - it ALWAYS FAVORS THE DEMOCRAT. I mean, they count, and recount, and do another - and voila! the Democrat wins. I have seen some nailbiters in House elections where the Republican finally won, but repeated recounts always seem to favor the Democrat. I'm thinking especially on Al Franken.
 

Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member
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Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
I still think the only serious way to get the Dems to address cheating is to scare the crap out of them that the GOP might do it too, and pull the SAME STUNTS.
I think there are many in the GOP that are pushing and organizing "Harvest the Ballot" operations.
 
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