So let's have this discussion of gay United States citizens.
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Bertha Venation
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TripleJ & Barbra: You're too sweet. (Cool smiley, Barbra!)
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Larry Gude
Strung Out
I was wondering about...
...that:
It also could have been made up by women with husbands who were no fun to practice with.
It could also be made up by dads with daughters who date. I consider myself a 6' 2" 240# 'jiggy' onset delay T1000 replete with 40 watt plasma rifle.
...that:
It also could have been made up by women with husbands who were no fun to practice with.
It could also be made up by dads with daughters who date. I consider myself a 6' 2" 240# 'jiggy' onset delay T1000 replete with 40 watt plasma rifle.
If the guy hangs out and drinks beer and doesn't comment on the girl talk that's going on, it's okay.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
I gotta vote for...
...cunning.
The hunter/gatherers (hunt for the ball, gather the ball) have always been trumped by the stay behinds (they stay, check out the behinds). We can't help this desire to go out in the wilderness and risk life and limb for no tangible reward and somebody has to be in the rear with the gear.
Alas, at the end of the day, all we did was whip out our sticks and play with our balls. While back at home...
The rear guard guy...
...cunning.
The hunter/gatherers (hunt for the ball, gather the ball) have always been trumped by the stay behinds (they stay, check out the behinds). We can't help this desire to go out in the wilderness and risk life and limb for no tangible reward and somebody has to be in the rear with the gear.
Alas, at the end of the day, all we did was whip out our sticks and play with our balls. While back at home...
The rear guard guy...
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Bruzilla
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Sex feels good for the same reason that eating, sleeping, and drinking feel good... they are things we are supposed to do and that's nature's way of getting us to do it.
Vrai... there are all manner of differences, legal and moral, between pedophiles and gays. The point of my post is that despite all of their differences, they are the same in that these people indulge in behaviors that are deviations from the norm. Since I don't believe in any religion, I don't pass moral judgements of right or wrong on gay behavior between two consenting adults. Such behavior is fine by me, but it is still a sexually deviant behavior. I keep to the biological level and leave the moral issues to the Perversionists.
Bertha, you've made it very clear who and what you are. Am I gay? Am I a womanizer? Is my wife satisfied? Have I had a long relationship or am I on my third marriage? Nobody here knows the answers to these questions but me, and that's because I don't feel you should discuss your sex life in public. Like religion and politics, people have very distinct views on what's acceptable and not acceptable in regards to sexual conduct, and if you're going to toss your sexual preferences out on the table you shouldn't take offense when someone throws it in your face.
While you have never mentioned the name of your partner, nor mentioned anything about her, that has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. The point is that no one has any business knowing what you do in bed, or who you do it with, unless you make it their business by offering that information as a point of discussion.
Speaking of things biological, here's my take on homosexuality... I think it's an act of nature. There have been a lot of human characteristics that were apparently mistakes in our biology that have grown to be great strengths (like the DNA flaw that allowed many Europeans to resist the plague and who's descendents are now immune to all virus attacks including AIDS.) I think that homosexuality is a genetic flaw that is being exploited by nature.
Why? Nature has a way of keeping things in balance, and right now human beings are out of balance. We have drugs to defeat disease, we have all manner of aids to help prevent personal injury deaths. We have greatly reduced deaths due to malnutrition, dehydration, hypothermia, etc. In short, aside from laughing ourselves to death watching Terry McAuliffe speeches, there isn't a lot of things that can kill us. Since nature always strives for balance, I think the best course of action it could take would be to increase homosexuality as a means to limit population growth.
Far fetched? I don't think so. If Ma Nature can cause frogs to change sex in single-sex environments... who's to say what her limits are?
Vrai... there are all manner of differences, legal and moral, between pedophiles and gays. The point of my post is that despite all of their differences, they are the same in that these people indulge in behaviors that are deviations from the norm. Since I don't believe in any religion, I don't pass moral judgements of right or wrong on gay behavior between two consenting adults. Such behavior is fine by me, but it is still a sexually deviant behavior. I keep to the biological level and leave the moral issues to the Perversionists.
Bertha, you've made it very clear who and what you are. Am I gay? Am I a womanizer? Is my wife satisfied? Have I had a long relationship or am I on my third marriage? Nobody here knows the answers to these questions but me, and that's because I don't feel you should discuss your sex life in public. Like religion and politics, people have very distinct views on what's acceptable and not acceptable in regards to sexual conduct, and if you're going to toss your sexual preferences out on the table you shouldn't take offense when someone throws it in your face.
While you have never mentioned the name of your partner, nor mentioned anything about her, that has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. The point is that no one has any business knowing what you do in bed, or who you do it with, unless you make it their business by offering that information as a point of discussion.
Speaking of things biological, here's my take on homosexuality... I think it's an act of nature. There have been a lot of human characteristics that were apparently mistakes in our biology that have grown to be great strengths (like the DNA flaw that allowed many Europeans to resist the plague and who's descendents are now immune to all virus attacks including AIDS.) I think that homosexuality is a genetic flaw that is being exploited by nature.
Why? Nature has a way of keeping things in balance, and right now human beings are out of balance. We have drugs to defeat disease, we have all manner of aids to help prevent personal injury deaths. We have greatly reduced deaths due to malnutrition, dehydration, hypothermia, etc. In short, aside from laughing ourselves to death watching Terry McAuliffe speeches, there isn't a lot of things that can kill us. Since nature always strives for balance, I think the best course of action it could take would be to increase homosexuality as a means to limit population growth.
Far fetched? I don't think so. If Ma Nature can cause frogs to change sex in single-sex environments... who's to say what her limits are?
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Bertha Venation
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Bruzilla, you've got a well written response here, and I appreciate it. But I think we're not communicating very well, for here again you seem to be saying that
A. My being a woman
B. My mentioning my partner, who is also a woman
leads automatically to
C. My discussing my sexual activity
Clearly this isn't so!
Am I misunderstanding you?
If Joe and Mary talk about their baby Sue, how many people listening think instantly about the sexual act that probably brought Sue into being?
If Joe and John talk about moving into their new house, how many people think instantly about what sexual acts might be taking place in the bedroom?
Please at least tell me if you see the double standard I referred to. Thanks.
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Bruzilla
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I guess we are not communicating well. My comments do not apply to that a-hole who likes to snoop on his/her's neighbors and participate in rumour mongering. My comments apply specifically to this forum. There will (unfortunately) never be an end to people snooping into the lives of others, or creating "facts" based on their limited observations. But you can avoid problems in a forum like this by not discussing your sexuality.
To the best of my knowledge, after three or so years, there has never been a post or string on this site regarding my sex life. This is because I keep my sex life personal. I'm sure there are things that I do that some people might find objectionable (I am a defense contractor after all ) , but I don't discuss them, therefore I don't have to get upset because someone tells me they disapprove of something I do or some aspect of my life. The fact that your sexuality is being discussed on this forum means that you have offered it up as a point of discussion somewhere along the line. There's nothing wrong with that, and it's your freedom to discuss it... just don't get mad when someone insults you because of it.
Lastly, Joe and Mary represent the sexual norm, i.e., sexual intercourse between a post-pubescent male and female. People have little or no interest in the norm. Joe and John (or you and your partner), on the other hand, are outside the norm, and outside the norm is of minimal to great interest to most people. Being outside the norm brings attention to you, and the attention can come from supporters and detractors. Is it a double-standard? Yep! But it's a natural double standard, so it isn't ever going to go away.
To the best of my knowledge, after three or so years, there has never been a post or string on this site regarding my sex life. This is because I keep my sex life personal. I'm sure there are things that I do that some people might find objectionable (I am a defense contractor after all
) , but I don't discuss them, therefore I don't have to get upset because someone tells me they disapprove of something I do or some aspect of my life. The fact that your sexuality is being discussed on this forum means that you have offered it up as a point of discussion somewhere along the line. There's nothing wrong with that, and it's your freedom to discuss it... just don't get mad when someone insults you because of it.Lastly, Joe and Mary represent the sexual norm, i.e., sexual intercourse between a post-pubescent male and female. People have little or no interest in the norm. Joe and John (or you and your partner), on the other hand, are outside the norm, and outside the norm is of minimal to great interest to most people. Being outside the norm brings attention to you, and the attention can come from supporters and detractors. Is it a double-standard? Yep! But it's a natural double standard, so it isn't ever going to go away.
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For the record, I've never seen Bertha say a word about her sex life. She's mentioned Kathy in passing. For all we know, she's a non-practicing lesbian and she and her gal are celibate. I've mentioned that Larry is my husband - does that mean I'm flaunting my sex life?
Married couples on this forum sometimes post moosh back and forth to each other. Bertha and her woman have never done that.
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Bruzilla
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Oy vay! Vrai, I'm not talking about writing "I walked into the bedroom and began to..." or "when I'm with my mate I like to have her to yada, yada, yada to me." When I write of "talking about your sex life" I am referring to discussing your sexual preferences, which are nobody's business unless you choose to make them so. I've read numerous posts from Bertha reguarding her being a Lesbian. That's a fine thing, but she's the one that felt a need to mention the fact that she's a Lesbian, and I think that's a mistake unless you're willing to endure the slings and arrows of criticism that's going to come at you.
For the third time... I think you should keep your sex life to yourself. If you want to talk about your heterosexual husband or homosexual partner, knock yourself out, but you're opening yourself to criticism if you do and if you can't take the criticism don't go inviting it.
For the third time... I think you should keep your sex life to yourself. If you want to talk about your heterosexual husband or homosexual partner, knock yourself out, but you're opening yourself to criticism if you do and if you can't take the criticism don't go inviting it.
SmallTown
Football season!
I haven't read all of her posts, but did it occur to you that possible she mentions this to add perspective to her argument? Just like when people on here talk about military life, they bring up THEY were in the military... When they talk about boats, they mention THEy are sailors... When she talks about gay rights and advocates, perhaps she mentions she is a lesbian.
So if someone DOESN'T have a real-life way to relate to an argument, they are told to shut up because they can't possibly relate. When they do show they can relate, then they are blasted for that as well? What is worse, her expressing this fact about herself, or people who criticize her for it? And how about the self proclaimed "I'm a SMIB and proud of it!" people who get upset with the first reference to SMIB?
NEVER!