So sick of pan handlers

SoMDGirl42

Well-Known Member
A hiring manager once told me that telling people they are over qualified is a nice way of letting them know they didn't get the job usually for some other reason. She said that sometimes they are overqualified but usually they did not meet some other criteria that may or may not be legal to judge a prospective applicant on such as gender, age, looks, etc...

I know in my case the manager straight up told me they wouldn't hire me because I was "over qualified" and I would leave the position as soon as one in my job field opened up. She knew I'd ditch it, and she was right. But it didn't stop the sting when I knew I had a newborn at home to buy diapers for!
 
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czygvtwkr

Guest
RIght after having my youngest daughter my contract ended and I was without a job with a newborn. I applied at Pizza hut to deliver pizza's just to have some income and they wouldn't hire me even with a clean driving record without a single ticket, a fairly new car that was reliable, no arrest record. I was "over qualified" to deliver pizza. So next time your pizza gets delivered, let them know it must suck not have any skills and being stuck delivery pizzas. #######s. And I have never purchased a pizza from pizza hut since! :pete:

Wow I know an engineer who use to deliver pizzas on the weekends because he liked doing it and he said he made over $25/hr in tips.
 
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czygvtwkr

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A hiring manager once told me that telling people they are over qualified is a nice way of letting them know they didn't get the job usually for some other reason. She said that sometimes they are overqualified but usually they did not meet some other criteria that may or may not be legal to judge a prospective applicant on such as gender, age, looks, etc...

Its the "it's not you it's me" line of a relationship ending.
 

NurseSherri

New Member
It seems to me from my limited experience here in Southern Maryland that this area is full of Christians judging from the churches on every corner... yet I'm always seeing how horrible the "welfare" losers who don't want to work leach off of society or they all "suck off the system" because they don't want to work and blah and blah and blah... don't you think Jesus would throw a dollar or two at these obviously poor panhandlers? Maybe they ARE hungry! And maybe they will continue to make poor decisions about drugs/alcohol... or maybe the vast majority of the homeless have psychological issues the render them all but helpless in our society. We don't know what their background stories are. Maybe if you knew you would have more compassion in your heart. Is that dollar really going to kill you leaving your pocket when you just spent five on a cup of coffee at Starbucks? Like I said in another post, I haven't been around here in a long time, but I guess I got curious... but I see that the same ole stuff is going on here... lots of drama. lots of judgment. Where is the compassion and love in this community?
 

Beta

Smile!
Where is the compassion and love in this community?
It exists...the problem is the people that post in here are the outspoken asshats that think their #### don't stink. Fortunately I know of at least some people that are compassionate and try to help the homeless, regardless of what their problems might be. People with doctorates who work their asses off are going homeless in this country because nobody will hire someone who is "overqualified" but everyone around here thinks they're experts and that every jobless hobo must be a drug addict. :rolleyes:
 
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czygvtwkr

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It seems to me from my limited experience here in Southern Maryland that this area is full of Christians judging from the churches on every corner... yet I'm always seeing how horrible the "welfare" losers who don't want to work leach off of society or they all "suck off the system" because they don't want to work and blah and blah and blah... don't you think Jesus would throw a dollar or two at these obviously poor panhandlers? Maybe they ARE hungry! And maybe they will continue to make poor decisions about drugs/alcohol... or maybe the vast majority of the homeless have psychological issues the render them all but helpless in our society. We don't know what their background stories are. Maybe if you knew you would have more compassion in your heart. Is that dollar really going to kill you leaving your pocket when you just spent five on a cup of coffee at Starbucks? Like I said in another post, I haven't been around here in a long time, but I guess I got curious... but I see that the same ole stuff is going on here... lots of drama. lots of judgment. Where is the compassion and love in this community?

Never been to church a day in my life so don't assume.

By panhandler I don't mean someone with a sign or a cup. I mean someone that sees you from across the parking lot, yells hey man and comes running over to you. Also I have had them come up behind me and suprise me.
 
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luvmygdaughters

Well-Known Member
It seems to me from my limited experience here in Southern Maryland that this area is full of Christians judging from the churches on every corner... yet I'm always seeing how horrible the "welfare" losers who don't want to work leach off of society or they all "suck off the system" because they don't want to work and blah and blah and blah... don't you think Jesus would throw a dollar or two at these obviously poor panhandlers? Maybe they ARE hungry! And maybe they will continue to make poor decisions about drugs/alcohol... or maybe the vast majority of the homeless have psychological issues the render them all but helpless in our society. We don't know what their background stories are. Maybe if you knew you would have more compassion in your heart. Is that dollar really going to kill you leaving your pocket when you just spent five on a cup of coffee at Starbucks? Like I said in another post, I haven't been around here in a long time, but I guess I got curious... but I see that the same ole stuff is going on here... lots of drama. lots of judgment. Where is the compassion and love in this community?

I'm a Christian, not a good one, but a Christian. I also give to charities and make food donations at the local food bank. These are services that are available to ones who need it. Those that are truly in need of help use these services. The ones that approach you at gas stations, grocery stores, etc. are professional dregs. As I mentioned in a previous post, a dreg approached my daughter at the Food Lion in Leonardtown and told her he would sell his foodstamp card to her for $ 50.00. She refused. This is why people are so cynical when it comes to seeing people begging. No, giving that dollar is not going to kill me and if I choose to spend $ 10.00 for a coffee at Starbucks, that's my right, I work for my paycheck and will spend it, guilt free, as I see fit.
 

BernieP

Resident PIA
I'm a Christian, not a good one, but a Christian. I also give to charities and make food donations at the local food bank. These are services that are available to ones who need it. Those that are truly in need of help use these services. The ones that approach you at gas stations, grocery stores, etc. are professional dregs. As I mentioned in a previous post, a dreg approached my daughter at the Food Lion in Leonardtown and told her he would sell his foodstamp card to her for $ 50.00. She refused. This is why people are so cynical when it comes to seeing people begging. No, giving that dollar is not going to kill me and if I choose to spend $ 10.00 for a coffee at Starbucks, that's my right, I work for my paycheck and will spend it, guilt free, as I see fit.

as I posted earlier, the easy way to differentiate the people looking to score some cash, and the ones who are really in need is to offer to buy the meal.
If they are hungry, they will graciously accept. If it's just a scam, they will find an excuse to decline.
Never give cash.

Don't also assume there are ample services for those in need. A lot of the programs are part time and not very well advertised (then again, how do you advertise to the homeless)

You would be amazed at the number of homeless people in St. Mary's County. There are know encampment areas, it's not just the drek that walks Great Mills Rd.
 

MarieB

New Member
It seems to me from my limited experience here in Southern Maryland that this area is full of Christians judging from the churches on every corner... yet I'm always seeing how horrible the "welfare" losers who don't want to work leach off of society or they all "suck off the system" because they don't want to work and blah and blah and blah... don't you think Jesus would throw a dollar or two at these obviously poor panhandlers? Maybe they ARE hungry! And maybe they will continue to make poor decisions about drugs/alcohol... or maybe the vast majority of the homeless have psychological issues the render them all but helpless in our society. We don't know what their background stories are. Maybe if you knew you would have more compassion in your heart. Is that dollar really going to kill you leaving your pocket when you just spent five on a cup of coffee at Starbucks? Like I said in another post, I haven't been around here in a long time, but I guess I got curious... but I see that the same ole stuff is going on here... lots of drama. lots of judgment. Where is the compassion and love in this community?


And yet that hasn't stopped you from popping in and being judgmental yourself.
 

garyt27

INAFJ
My wife was at Shell on Dares bch road, a guy with a walker says he needs to get to Philly, his wife is in the hospital, he only has half a tank of gas, probably can't make it all the way. could she top off his tank.
She felt bad, but declined. I said that was wise, cause the ones that are pro beggars have ruined it for real people in need. She said the sheriffs office was just across the street, they could help him. He took off as fast as his walker would let him.
 

Hannibal

Active Member
So I stopped back into my normal afternoon-commute gas station (Upper Marlboro Dunkin Donuts) this past Friday ....... and wouldn't you know, she's there again. I pull into the farthest pump from her, hop out and start the process. Out of the corner of my eye, I see her heading over. I get things set up and pay her no mind and head for the door of Dunkin Donuts to grab a coffee. She cuts me off with her across the parking lot shout of "Sir?! Sir?!". So, I stop and say "Yes mam. What can I do for you?". Wouldn't you know, she needs to money to feed her kids. Apparently her "check" isn't coming until Monday and she needs some money to get through the weekend.

I bit my tounge but do decline and say I have nothing for her this time (I didn't even offer donuts as I've done before). She pushes it further and says "You can't even spare a dollar?" And I get aggrevated and said "No mam I don't. I am not carrying cash. And if you recall, you came to me this past Tuesday (just 3 days prior) and the week before with the very same story and both times, I helped you out. So I am sorry, but this time I have nothing else."

At that point, I kept on my way and she turned to head back to her "seat." Before she got there, another call had pulled in and she walked over to them.

At the cash register, I finally expressed my annoyance. I usually don't but I was really at that point that the constant approaches were going to result in me not stopping there (and it is a very conveniant location for me). So I told the guy "You all need to do something about her. Nearly every time I come through here, she comes up to me asking me for money - giving me the same story every time. I've bought her donuts, I've even bought her coffee. I have no issue with her holding up some sign solicitating for money (so people can "donate" if they wish) - however, her constantly approaching me is wearing thin.

He told me he has called the cops on her but they really can't do anything (I don't buy this). Said she lives just behind the gas station and spends her mid-morning across the street (more traffic) and then moves over to Dunkin around 2pm to catch the afternoon crowd. He said he's offered her "leftover" donuts for her kids but she will decline and insist it needs to be money.

I am at the point that I may just start being an ass to her but I really don't want to be. On one hand I shouldn't feel like I need to change my routine because of her, but on the other hand, I tend to not be a prick unless I have to be.
 

PeoplesElbow

Well-Known Member
There was a panhandler at Wawa today asking if I had extra cash while stuffing a doughnut down his pie hole. This guy definitely acted like a tweeker.

I have started saying no as soon as they walk up and they look confused.
 

Monello

Smarter than the average bear
PREMO Member
I was in a parking lot of a grocery store mid morning. There weren't a lot of people around. I had on a distinct shirt with some writing on it. I hear someone reading the text of my shirt out loud. I turn and I get the hey, how you doing routine. He starts his spiel about ending up homeless and how he's hungry and if I could spare a few bucks so he can get something to eat. I'm not giving this guy money. He seems capable enough to be working. But as luck would have it, 1 of my purchases was 2 bananas and a donut. I offer him the bag with the food in it. He thanks me and walks away. I watched to see if he was really hungry but I never saw him put any food in his mouth.

This has happened to me several times over the last few years. Random strangers making chit chat in a location where everyone pretty much goes about minding their own business. And it always ends with can you spare a few bucks.

Well today I had another such event. I'm at a real nice county or city park where they have a lot of activities. I plan on going fishing. But I first have to take a leak. The last time I was there I used the bathroom by the boat ramp. I think there was a homeless guy trying to shower in the handicapped stall. I see a handful of folks that I would not be shocked to learn they are homeless. ANyhow I go over by the baseball fields and kiddy jungle gym and use that restroom.

As I park, I notice a young guy with a backpack eying towards my direction. There are a lot of birds in the trees and I'm hoping that is what he is focused on. Then he starts walking towards where I'm parked. He's looking at me the entire time. By the time I got out of the car, he's standing in the parking spot next to me. I bet if I was a bit slower, he would have opened my car door for me.

Right on cue, I get the hey, how you doing? routine. I say "I'm not giving you any money" and don't break stride. I go in and do my business because I've got things I want to do. When I come out he's still hanging around. Except now he's talking to no one in particular. But he's clearly talking about me and how I disrespected him, who did I think I was and some other random nonsense about our interaction 4 minutes ago. Now he wasn't that close to me but he was speaking loud enough for me to hear. I didn't reply back and just left. Let's call it a 3 out of 10 on the intimidation scale.

There was a time a few years ago I'd have been willing to take 2 punches to land one. I've got some skills with using my fists. But those days are behind me. So I now have to reevaluate how to handle these sort of encounters moving forward. I just find that I save both of us time when as soon as they open their pie hole, I say I'm not giving you anything. This was there is no mis understanding. And I know if I had let this kid continue, there was a sob story part and then the asking for money. I use to say, sorry but I'm not working right now. But I don't even want to engage them. But if they insist, to shut them right down. I have to imagine that this direct approach often catches people off guard, so they hand them a few bucks. I wish we'd collectively agree to not reward these people ever again. That's the only way it's going to stop.

@vraiblonde
 
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my-thyme

..if momma ain't happy...
Patron
I hate watching people give the beggars along 2-4-FDR anything. Give to them, they're gonna keep begging.

There are places they can go to get help. But, they don't want to follow the "rules" of those places, ie, no drugs or alcohol, job hunt, do an assigned job at the group home.

Sorry, I used to have a lot of sympathy. No more. You want hot showers, a soft clean bed, all the food you can eat and all the coffee you can drink? Follow the rules.

And don't give me that disease crap. Whatever you've got going on started as a choice.
 

PeoplesElbow

Well-Known Member
Here is a new one, a guy squeezed between the cars and the McDonalds building hitting up people waiting in the drive through lane this morning.
 
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