Suicide

[somdcrab]

I agree to disagree with you. We are now talking more openly about these problems and people don't have to suffer like they used to. It's not weak to have a mental illness. I don't think society is making us think we are sicker than we are, we discuss it more. Now I am going to go soak my day away in a hot bath..

can i go????

 

[somdcrab]

You can come.

i'ma cummin miz morgan

 

[somdcrab]

dammit i slipped on da flo

 

[dems4me]

I agree to disagree with you. We are now talking more openly about these problems and people don't have to suffer like they used to. It's not weak to have a mental illness. I don't think society is making us think we are sicker than we are, we discuss it more. Now I am going to go soak my day away in a hot bath..

I concur There is no perfect person or breed of humans as someone keeps referring to.

 

[somdcrab]

I concur There is no perfect person or breed of humans as someone keeps referring to.

i was perfect b4 my first marriage

 

[unixpirate]

Last ditch effort of control or easy way out??

I’ve gotten news that someone I know has taken his life and I’m curious as to what you all think of this.

Its someone that can't wait to find out where there going. :shrug:

 

[BuddyLee]

I concur There is no perfect person or breed of humans as someone keeps referring to.

Please state where I said this.

 

[dems4me]

i was perfect b4 my first marriage

 

[BigSlam123b]

To quote Mr Freddy Mercury and Queen:

"Don't do it Don't you try it baby
Don't do that Don't Don't Don't
Don't do that
You got a good thing going now
Don't do it Don't do it
Don't

Don't try suicide
Nobody's worth it
Don't try suicide
Nobody cares
Don't try suicide
Just gonna hate it
Don't try suicide
Nobody gives a damn


So you think it's the easy way out
Think you're gonna slash your wrists
This time
Baby when you do it all you do is
Get on my tits
Don't do that try try try baby
Don't do that - you got a good thing going now
Don't do it Don't do it - Don't


Chorus
You need help
Look at yourself you need help
You need life
So don't hang yourself
It's o.k. o.k. o.k. o.k.
You just can't be a prick teaser all of the time
A little bit attention - you got it
Need some affection - you got it
Suicide suicide suicide bid
Suicide suicide sucide bid
Suicide


Don't do it Don't do it Don't do it babe
Don't do it Don't do it Don't-do it
Don't put your neck on the line
Don't drown on me babe
Blow your brains out -
Don't do that - yeah


Chorus
Nobody gives - nobody gives
Nobody gives a damn"

 

[dems4me]

To quote Mr Freddy Mercury and Queen:

"Don't do it Don't you try it baby
Don't do that Don't Don't Don't
Don't do that
You got a good thing going now
Don't do it Don't do it
Don't

Don't try suicide
Nobody's worth it
Don't try suicide
Nobody cares
Don't try suicide
Just gonna hate it
Don't try suicide
Nobody gives a damn


So you think it's the easy way out
Think you're gonna slash your wrists
This time
Baby when you do it all you do is
Get on my tits
Don't do that try try try baby
Don't do that - you got a good thing going now
Don't do it Don't do it - Don't


Chorus
You need help
Look at yourself you need help
You need life
So don't hang yourself
It's o.k. o.k. o.k. o.k.
You just can't be a prick teaser all of the time
A little bit attention - you got it
Need some affection - you got it
Suicide suicide suicide bid
Suicide suicide sucide bid
Suicide


Don't do it Don't do it Don't do it babe
Don't do it Don't do it Don't-do it
Don't put your neck on the line
Don't drown on me babe
Blow your brains out -
Don't do that - yeah


Chorus
Nobody gives - nobody gives
Nobody gives a damn"

I think the depressed person only heres and uptakes on these...


To quote Mr Freddy Mercury and Queen:



Nobody cares



Nobody gives a damn



You need life



It's o.k. o.k. o.k. o.k.



Suicide suicide suicide bid
Suicide suicide sucide bid
Suicide



Blow your brains out -


us
Nobody gives - nobody gives
Nobody gives a damn"
____________________________________



:shrug:

 

[BigSlam123b]

I think the depressed person only heres and uptakes on these...


To quote Mr Freddy Mercury and Queen:



Nobody cares



Nobody gives a damn



You need life



It's o.k. o.k. o.k. o.k.



Suicide suicide suicide bid
Suicide suicide sucide bid
Suicide



Blow your brains out -


us
Nobody gives - nobody gives
Nobody gives a damn"
____________________________________



:shrug:

Why ya got to be a hater?

 

[dems4me]

Why ya got to be a hater?

I'm not I was born and raised in Virginia...we're "Lovers"


(psst... bare with me.... Lent is only for about 3 more weeks I'll be less morbid and grouchy )

 

[fttrsbeerwench]

I had several friends and family members who commited suicide. I have thought about it. I have gone trough some stuff that I have literally become so depressed over I have laid down and waited to die. I have tried to drink myself to death. I have done alot of things I should have died from, being a depressed person. I believe that suicide attempts are either attention seeking methods or ways of reaching out to let someone know there is a problem. If you didn't do it right the first time, you didn't mean it. I have been on anti-depressants. I choose not to take them now because the drugs aren't fixing what's wrong with me. Unless I learn to live with myself and my life, drugs are only numbing the reality and controlling the urges. So I deal. I work very hard to keep myself positive. That's what keeps me from getting overwhelmed. My nearly irritating idea that altough I have flaws and things are bad today. They will get better.There is beauty all around and so much reason to live that nothing is worth losing that. I try to wake up in a good mood everyday. Killing yourself is weak and nothing is so bad that it can not be fixed. Sometimes I don't feel that way, but as long as I can hang on until I believe it again. It's all good! Don't condemn a person who is genuinly depressed for attempting it. Be angry if they succeed. I tried to walk a mile in the shoes of every person who took their life I knew. I could understand the depth of their pain and their sense of hopelessness... I am amazed that there are poeple walking around miserable everyday, making others life miserable in their wake. Why aren't these people killing themselves or at least trying to make themselves happy. That's what gets me. On prozac or drunk everyday, crying alone in the dark and not doing anything to end it or improve it. Walking time bombs. Long slow deaths. More than someone losing the love of their life or post partum depression suicide, that bugs me. If you kill yourself you failed to live but why live if you don't try to live happy..
GRRR!! :deliriouslytired:

 

[Railroad]

Someone who does not live with depression can't possibly comprehend being so sad and hopeless that suicide seems like the only option. Selfish is not the right word for it. Yes, it is tragic for family and friends, but you have to understand that the thoughts in the depressed person's head and the pain in their heart can become too much to bear. It's easy to say "What a selfish, cowardly way out," but depression is a horrible thing to live with and if you don't know anything about it, you can't possible judge a depressed person's actions.

I have depression and have been on meds for it for years. This past year I stopped taking them for awhile and went through hell again. Suicidal thoughts were part of that. Sometimes the fog of depression clouds a lot of things, and it isn't as simple as you might think to back away from rash decisions.

 

[vraiblonde]

I think it is incredibly insensitive for you to call people suffering from depression weak, just the same as any other disease a person has been born with.

Depression isn't "disease" any more than alcoholism or drug addiction is. Some people are legitimately mentally ill BUT I believe the vast majority of people taking anti-depressents are just looking for a quick fix for their problems, just like any other chemically dependent person.

Shoot, you could open a pharmacy in our neighborhood with the number of women (mostly stay-at-home Moms) who drug themselves to cope with their lives. They won't manage their stress by smacking their obnoxious kid upside the head, but they'll sure take a pill to make it all go away. They won't tell a store clerk, "Excuse me, get your ass off the phone and ring up my order so I can get out of here," - they suck it up and take a pill instead. They won't tell their retard husband to quit banging his co-worker but they'll sure take a pill.

And then what do they do for "relaxation"? They create more stress and negativity in their lives by sitting on the phone with their stupid girlfriends, wallowing in some drama under the pretense of being "a good friend".

You say to them, "If doing that stresses you out, why don't you quit doing it?" and they reply, "Oh, I CAN'T!! I HAVE to do this stressful assinine thing that won't amount to a hill of #### except to make me insane. I'll just take a pill and be fine."

So I hold that 99% of people who say they're "depressed" are really people who are too lazy or insecure to make positive changes in their lives so they can be happy for a change.

 

[Railroad]

So I hold that 99% of people who say they're "depressed" are really people who are too lazy or insecure to make positive changes in their lives so they can be happy for a change.

You might be right, but if you are, I sure hope I'm in the other 1% - this crap seems real enough to me and has been all my life.

 

[vraiblonde]

You might be right, but if you are, I sure hope I'm in the other 1% - this crap seems real enough to me and has been all my life.

I was going to post that maybe you are in the minority that is truly mentally ill. Then I thought that might offend you. Then I thought that it shouldn't - there should be no stigma attached to mental illness, it should be attached to laziness instead. Mental illness is a result of biology - something you truly can't help. Laziness is a character defect because it's a choice.

Human biology hasn't changed much in the last 1000 years. But now, all of a sudden, there is such a glut of people that are "clinically depressed" that the drug companies actually advertise their products to them. Wasn't anyone depressed during WWII? How about during the Great Depression? Nobody got depressed during the Civil War? The difference is that they dealt with their problems instead of ignoring them in favor of a pill.

 

[AC/DC]

The difference is that they dealt with their problems instead of ignoring them in favor of a pill.

It wasn't a BILLION dollar business back then.

Pharmaceutical companies are out to make their money, regardless of how many useless prescriptions are doled out.

 

[Railroad]

I was going to post that maybe you are in the minority that is truly mentally ill. Then I thought that might offend you. Then I thought that it shouldn't - there should be no stigma attached to mental illness, it should be attached to laziness instead. Mental illness is a result of biology - something you truly can't help. Laziness is a character defect because it's a choice.

Human biology hasn't changed much in the last 1000 years. But now, all of a sudden, there is such a glut of people that are "clinically depressed" that the drug companies actually advertise their products to them. Wasn't anyone depressed during WWII? How about during the Great Depression? Nobody got depressed during the Civil War? The difference is that they dealt with their problems instead of ignoring them in favor of a pill.

No offense taken. I concur that there are people out there who could benefit from some backbone and self-discipline. That is a growing problem in today's permissive and politically correct society.

Since the true depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain, it follows that it has been a problem all along. There are many ways in which depression manifests itself, and I'm sure there are many tragedies in history related to depression (if we knew about them). I would imagine some depressives resorted to self-medication in the form of alcohol, laudanum, and other drugs that were available back then.

 

[Hello6]

What a drag it is getting old
"Kids are different today,"
I hear ev'ry mother say
Mother needs something today to calm her down
And though she's not really ill
There's a little yellow pill
She goes running for the shelter of a mother's little helper
And it helps her on her way, gets her through her busy day


"Things are different today,"
I hear ev'ry mother say
Cooking fresh food for a husband's just a drag
So she buys an instant cake and she burns her frozen steak
And goes running for the shelter of a mother's little helper
And two help her on her way, get her through her busy day


Doctor please, some more of these
Outside the door, she took four more
What a drag it is getting old


"Men just aren't the same today"
I hear ev'ry mother say
They just don't appreciate that you get tired
They're so hard to satisfy, You can tranquilize your mind
So go running for the shelter of a mother's little helper
And four help you through the night, help to minimize your
plight


Doctor please, some more of these
Outside the door, she took four more
What a drag it is getting old


"Life's just much too hard today,"
I hear ev'ry mother say
The pusuit of happiness just seems a bore
And if you take more of those, you will get an overdose
No more running for the shelter of a mother's little helper
They just helped you on your way, through your busy dying day