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Baja28

Baja28

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blazinlow89 said:
Baja, a bit of topic, where did you get the short sliding window blinds. Lowes wanted me to pay $85 and then have them cut the blinds shorter. Wondering if you found them in that length.
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Sorry Blazin, I just saw this. I believe I bought them through Walmart many years ago. I specified the length.


unlisted said:
That difference will be like night and day.
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I have coax run from the Tivo to the TV now (5'). How can an HDMI cable be better than coax?
 
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itsbob

itsbob

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Baja28 said:
Sorry Blazin, I just saw this. I believe I bought them through Walmart many years ago. I specified the length.


I have coax run from the Tivo to the TV now (5'). How can an HDMI cable be better than coax?
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Actually a good question: If the signal coming into your house is through COAX how can using an HDMI cable downstream make any improvements over the original signal coming in on COAX?


How can there be any quality differences between running COAX and HDMI between components? Will it make the picture better?

The reason why the picture quality of HDMI exceeds that of coaxial cable is the manner in which the cable is made, in conjunction with how the equipment is designed to handle data. Nine internal wires carry the picture and sound data along the TMDS, or Transition Minimized Differential Signaling channel. Like all digital connections, this requires encoding and decoding at each end of the hardware chain.

Whereas:

Coaxial cables use an "F" connector. This threaded termination has been used on televisions, VCRs and gaming systems for decades. The bandwidth of coaxial cable makes it ideal for sending digital data from cable and satellite services to the decoder boxes inside the house. However, when a coaxial cable is used as an interconnect between the hardware and television, it forces audio and video over the single copper center conductor on the cable. This limits resolution to slightly over 300 lines, and audio to stereo
 
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GWguy

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itsbob said:
Actually a good question: If the signal coming into your house is through COAX how can using an HDMI cable downstream make any improvements over the original signal coming in on COAX?


How can there be any quality differences between running COAX and HDMI between components? Will it make the picture better?

The reason why the picture quality of HDMI exceeds that of coaxial cable is the manner in which the cable is made, in conjunction with how the equipment is designed to handle data. Nine internal wires carry the picture and sound data along the TMDS, or Transition Minimized Differential Signaling channel. Like all digital connections, this requires encoding and decoding at each end of the hardware chain.

Whereas:

Coaxial cables use an "F" connector. This threaded termination has been used on televisions, VCRs and gaming systems for decades. The bandwidth of coaxial cable makes it ideal for sending digital data from cable and satellite services to the decoder boxes inside the house. However, when a coaxial cable is used as an interconnect between the hardware and television, it forces audio and video over the single copper center conductor on the cable. This limits resolution to slightly over 300 lines, and audio to stereo
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To add to that, the original TV signal is high quality, and digitized. All of the original content is there in digital form. The digital signal is then pumped out on an RF broadband carrier (cable). The TIVO box reconstructs the digital signal. The output from the TIVO can be coax RF baseband, not broadband (lowest quality signal with embedded audio), composite (yellow wire for video, red/white for stereo audio), still pretty awful), 'S' video (a step up from composite, but still poor, audio on separate wiring), component (3 wires for video, 2 for audio), and HDMI (one cable v1.4, carries full HD 1080p compliant video, plus 5.1 audio, plus reverse controlling cabability, plus 3D protocols).

It makes all the sense in the world to provide the BEST signal quality you can to your TV.

Analogy: Alaskan Pipeline carrying hundreds of thousands of gallons a minute (cable). Somewhere on that pipeline you tap off the flow into a straw (your RF cable to the TV) to fill a tanker truck (your TV). Replace the straw with a 6" hose.
 
Baja28

Baja28

Obama destroyed America
itsbob said:
Actually a good question: If the signal coming into your house is through COAX how can using an HDMI cable downstream make any improvements over the original signal coming in on COAX?

How can there be any quality differences between running COAX and HDMI between components? Will it make the picture better?

The reason why the picture quality of HDMI exceeds that of coaxial cable is the manner in which the cable is made, in conjunction with how the equipment is designed to handle data. Nine internal wires carry the picture and sound data along the TMDS, or Transition Minimized Differential Signaling channel. Like all digital connections, this requires encoding and decoding at each end of the hardware chain.

Whereas:

Coaxial cables use an "F" connector. This threaded termination has been used on televisions, VCRs and gaming systems for decades. The bandwidth of coaxial cable makes it ideal for sending digital data from cable and satellite services to the decoder boxes inside the house. However, when a coaxial cable is used as an interconnect between the hardware and television, it forces audio and video over the single copper center conductor on the cable. This limits resolution to slightly over 300 lines, and audio to stereo
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GWguy said:
To add to that, the original TV signal is high quality, and digitized. All of the original content is there in digital form. The digital signal is then pumped out on an RF broadband carrier (cable). The TIVO box reconstructs the digital signal. The output from the TIVO can be coax RF baseband, not broadband (lowest quality signal with embedded audio), composite (yellow wire for video, red/white for stereo audio), still pretty awful), 'S' video (a step up from composite, but still poor, audio on separate wiring), component (3 wires for video, 2 for audio), and HDMI (one cable v1.4, carries full HD 1080p compliant video, plus 5.1 audio, plus reverse controlling cabability, plus 3D protocols).

It makes all the sense in the world to provide the BEST signal quality you can to your TV.

Analogy: Alaskan Pipeline carrying hundreds of thousands of gallons a minute (cable). Somewhere on that pipeline you tap off the flow into a straw (your RF cable to the TV) to fill a tanker truck (your TV). Replace the straw with a 6" hose.
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Thanks guys. Duponster said he has an HDMI cable I can try.
 
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SO.....

if you were to take the HDMI output from the TIVO and plug it into a 5.1 or 7.1 audio amp, then take the output from the amp to the TV, the amp intercepts the audio, amplifies it, conditions it and feeds it to your surround sound speakers and sub-woofer. If the original program was made in surround sound, you get surround sound with sub-woofer bass frequencies.

Now you have a reason to "crank it up" on NASCAR....
 
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itsbob

itsbob

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GWguy said:
To add to that, the original TV signal is high quality, and digitized. All of the original content is there in digital form. The digital signal is then pumped out on an RF broadband carrier (cable). The TIVO box reconstructs the digital signal. The output from the TIVO can be coax RF baseband, not broadband (lowest quality signal with embedded audio), composite (yellow wire for video, red/white for stereo audio), still pretty awful), 'S' video (a step up from composite, but still poor, audio on separate wiring), component (3 wires for video, 2 for audio), and HDMI (one cable v1.4, carries full HD 1080p compliant video, plus 5.1 audio, plus reverse controlling cabability, plus 3D protocols).

It makes all the sense in the world to provide the BEST signal quality you can to your TV.

Analogy: Alaskan Pipeline carrying hundreds of thousands of gallons a minute (cable). Somewhere on that pipeline you tap off the flow into a straw (your RF cable to the TV) to fill a tanker truck (your TV). Replace the straw with a 6" hose.
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BUT he should be OK if he has a left circular polarity wombulated coax cable.

I doubt he does, but there is always that chance that he found one.
 
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itsbob said:
BUT he should be OK if he has a left circular polarity wombulated coax cable.

I doubt he does, but there is always that chance that he found one.
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Yeah, but if he can locate a frazmitized dojunky, that will countermand the wombulated coax by transposing the electrical field effect caused by the free radical Cu ions.
 
Baja28

Baja28

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Wonderful.... UPS just dropped off my LG sound bar and it connects with an optical cable. Guess what the new TV does NOT have. :banghead:
 
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blazinlow89 said:
Yep, and they still look pretty good. My only complaint is that no one has a channel list. Maybe when I am bored one morning I will make a list to help myself and maybe others out. Drives me nuts trying to find a specific channel and having to cycle through to find something. Only ones I remember are Discovery which is 83-2 and A&E which is 83-3.
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http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/lineup_web/US:20653#lineup_8755282

The default view is digital antenna, be sure to change it to local provider and you can see all the channels available.
 
Dupontster

Dupontster

Would THIS face lie?
I know this is an old thread but you all gave Baja such good info, I thought I'd ask my question here..I moved a TV from one side of a room to another. There was a freakin mess of wires everywhere. (Been there for a long time). I got everything hooked up with HDMI cables and TV is working fine. I hooked the DVD/VHS combo up yesterday with RCA cables. (Red,Blue,Green) It plays the DVD but there is no color. It has a blue hue to the picture. No, it's not a blue-ray player.. Anyone know what the problem is? I have the Blue to Blue, Green to Green and the Red to Red. I did have to use another Red and White cable for the Audio. I am going back in there and try some different stuff. BTW, I thought it might be the old "Go-Video" player so I changed it out with a "Sony" I had on a shelf. Same thing with that player so it is in my hookup somewhere. The players are kind of old and the TV is a newer Samsung. Don't know if that would make a difference because I have the color coded cables hooked to both. Pulling what little bit of hair I have out..
 
DoWhat

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Dupontster said:
I know this is an old thread but you all gave Baja such good info, I thought I'd ask my question here..I moved a TV from one side of a room to another. There was a freakin mess of wires everywhere. (Been there for a long time). I got everything hooked up with HDMI cables and TV is working fine. I hooked the DVD/VHS combo up yesterday with RCA cables. (Red,Blue,Green) It plays the DVD but there is no color. It has a blue hue to the picture. No, it's not a blue-ray player.. Anyone know what the problem is? I have the Blue to Blue, Green to Green and the Red to Red. I did have to use another Red and White cable for the Audio. I am going back in there and try some different stuff. BTW, I thought it might be the old "Go-Video" player so I changed it out with a "Sony" I had on a shelf. Same thing with that player so it is in my hookup somewhere. The players are kind of old and the TV is a newer Samsung. Don't know if that would make a difference because I have the color coded cables hooked to both. Pulling what little bit of hair I have out..
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Disconnect one cable at a time and look for a difference.
The one you disconnected that does not change the picture is a bad cable or a poor connection.
 
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ItalianScallion

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Dupontster said:
I know this is an old thread but you all gave Baja such good info, I thought I'd ask my question here..I moved a TV from one side of a room to another. There was a freakin mess of wires everywhere. (Been there for a long time). I got everything hooked up with HDMI cables and TV is working fine. I hooked the DVD/VHS combo up yesterday with RCA cables. (Red,Blue,Green) It plays the DVD but there is no color. It has a blue hue to the picture. No, it's not a blue-ray player.. Anyone know what the problem is? I have the Blue to Blue, Green to Green and the Red to Red. I did have to use another Red and White cable for the Audio. I am going back in there and try some different stuff. BTW, I thought it might be the old "Go-Video" player so I changed it out with a "Sony" I had on a shelf. Same thing with that player so it is in my hookup somewhere. The players are kind of old and the TV is a newer Samsung. Don't know if that would make a difference because I have the color coded cables hooked to both. Pulling what little bit of hair I have out..
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Those 3 ports (R,B,G) aren't used for DVD& VCRs. Use the Yellow, Red & White RCA ports for those items, then select the correct input with the remote control. Video 1, video 2, etc.
 
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