SxyPrincess
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...and Marilyn Manson lyrics promote homicides...
Bertha Venation
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Not just Marilyn Manson.Originally posted by SxyPrincess
...and Marilyn Manson lyrics promote homicides...
Bertha Venation
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Too bad not every parent does so.Originally posted by crabcake
i thought it was my job (as a parent) to filter that stuff out for my kid wherever possible if I see fit
Is it possible to filter everything, everywhere, all the time? Not having kids, I wouldn't know, but it seems like it would be impossible. You can instill your values in them, and tell them what you think of trash on TV and why, etc., but is it possible to keep them from seeing/hearing every objectionable thing?
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SxyPrincess
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Ok, so you're saying that there are song lyrics that promote bad behavior, killings, teen pregnancy, suicide...etc?
Dumb common sense is the factor of bad choices.
Bertha Venation
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No. That's not what I said at all. [edit] But I do believe some of what kids consume can affect their behavior.Originally posted by SxyPrincess
Ok, so you're saying that there are song lyrics that promote bad behavior, killings, teen pregnancy, suicide...etc?
Here, I'll make my position clear: [/edit] Personal responsibilty and parental guidance don't dismiss the fact that what a child consumes can (note: not "will") affect his or her behavior.
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SxyPrincess
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How does that happen?
crabcake
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Of course it's not possible to filter everything. That's why, when you have the opportunities, you instill sound morals and judgement and decision making in them so they know when they see or hear the crap, they know better than to let their brains absorb it.
Personally, I think our government regulates enough stuff as it is. I don't care for them to tell me their opinion of what's right or not via laws for my child in those respects (tv, music, advertising). Consider how that will impact us as a nation if we had radical islamic lawmakers
As "melting pot" as we are, you think it's that far off?
SxyPrincess
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Yes! I've never ridden the bus with high schoolers.Originally posted by kwillia
Middle schoolers and high schoolers have always been grouped together in St. Mary's... Is it different in St. Charles...
SxyPrincess
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Maybe reverse psychology will work on him...:shrug:Originally posted by kwillia
Well, my sweet, wittle, innocent 10 year old is....So the past 10 years of guidance and shelter are being thrown out the window daily....
Bertha Venation
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Doesn't it at least sometimes? Call me naïve . . .Originally posted by cattitude
If only that worked.....
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Sure it does! My children were raised with good morals, etc. Judgment is relative, something teenagers seem to lack when they are around their friends or placed in certain situations. My take is that you do the best you can to give them the tools they will need and guide them in the proper direction and pray a little. But sometimes raising kids is a bit of a crap shoot. The two oldest had their moments but they are doing well, married, etc. The youngest is a good kid and is working out his "judgment" issues.
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Originally posted by cattitude
If only that worked.....
:shrug: It's working for me so far with things that 5-year-olds can understand/relate to. I didn't want to wait until she was 15 to begin the process of teaching her right from wrong. I use examples we see in every day life (if we see some rugrat acting up, a kid yelling and screaming at their parents, etc.) I knew that what I was telling/teaching her was sinking in one day when she did something wrong, and was in her room crying "I don't want to go to kiddie jail, mommy, I'm sorry." Call it tough love, but if you start early on, I think it becomes ingrained in them ... like learning to speak proper english. Wait until they've been exposed to the negative to teach them right, and you've waited too long.
I'm not naive enough to think she'll never do something wrong, but no one will be able to point their fingers at me and say it's my fault my daughter got knocked up at 16, tossed in jail for shoplifting, or had her butt caned for spraypainting cars because I didn't teach her right from wrong or instill positive morals in her growing up.
cattitude
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I'm not of the belief that it's the parents' fault in all cases when a girl gets pregnant, just as I don't believe parents are completely at fault when a child (teenager) does something against the law. Sometimes things just happen.
I've raised a daughter and 2 sons. All three have done things that I NEVER thought they would do. And when they were young, I was confident in our child rearing to know that they CERTAINLY wouldn't be doing the very things they did. Not that my children have done horrible things, just things I would have bet they wouldn't have done given the way we raised them.
Those of you that don't have children or have young children, check back with me when you have actually raised children through the teen years.
I've raised a daughter and 2 sons. All three have done things that I NEVER thought they would do. And when they were young, I was confident in our child rearing to know that they CERTAINLY wouldn't be doing the very things they did. Not that my children have done horrible things, just things I would have bet they wouldn't have done given the way we raised them.
Those of you that don't have children or have young children, check back with me when you have actually raised children through the teen years.
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Good thing.
It worked for Kathy.... With their mother gone and their dad (her brother) largely clueless for his first few single years, Kathy had a powerful hand in raising her niece and nephew. One day when her nephew was 13, she walked into the living room and found him watching MTV. She sat down next to him and they watched a rap video together. It was an overtly sexual video; she glanced at him now & then and found his face reddening. Finally, after a scene in which a man roughly grabbed a woman’s breasts from behind, they’d both had enough. She turned off the TV and took him out for a walk to the park.
She said, “You know that was fake, don’t you?” He said “yeah.” She told him, “Usually, no woman would want to be grabbed like that, especially not by surprise and definitely not by someone she doesn’t know.” He said “okay.” The boy clearly wanted the conversation to be over, but Kathy had one more point to make. They sat down on a bench and she made him look her in the eye, and she told him, “Devyn, when a girl says ‘no,’ she means ‘no.’ She doesn’t mean ‘maybe,’ or ‘later,’ or ‘not here.’ She means ‘no.’” He said, “okay.”
So... he's 23, engaged, and has never raped anyone and has never gotten a girl preggers...
Okay, so it's anecdotal. But here it seems are many, many examples of parents teaching their children well.
(Kathy would've been a terrific mother. She always told the two kids, "if you ever want to know anything about anything, you can come to me...." some other time perhaps I'll tell about the question her niece, age 10, asked out of the blue one day.)
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I didn't say my kid would never do something I wouldn't approve of. I said that I'm doing everything now in my power to remove the negative influences that I see fit (vs. uncle sam seeing fit) and raise her properly so that if the day comes she commits one of my aforementioned acts or some heinous crime, she or anyone else won't be able to say, "you didn't teach me/her right from wrong or provide her with morals."
I think some parents wait too late to talk to their kids about this stuff or are too afraid. I dunno. I babysat early on in my life and my mom had the 'talk' with me before sex became a remote interest; I knew from babysitting other people's rug rats that I didn't want a baby at 18 years old, so I took precautions to prevent that from happening. I guess I learned early on that being a kid was hard enough without raising one too.
I think some parents wait too late to talk to their kids about this stuff or are too afraid. I dunno. I babysat early on in my life and my mom had the 'talk' with me before sex became a remote interest; I knew from babysitting other people's rug rats that I didn't want a baby at 18 years old, so I took precautions to prevent that from happening. I guess I learned early on that being a kid was hard enough without raising one too.