black dog
Free America
No, what really astounding is you all think you can tell another citizen what she has to do with her choices in life.. That's ASTOUNDING......
Texas bans safest and most common abortion procedure after 13 weeks
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No, what really astounding is you all think you can tell another citizen what she has to do with her choices in life.. That's ASTOUNDING......
This_person
Well-Known Member
Again, I don't care about her personal decisions. I am concerned with the separate life she willingly and knowingly helped to create. Why do you keep talking about her health decisions when you are repeatedly told this?
black dog
Free America
And that's still her choice to make... Always has been,,always will be....
This_person
Well-Known Member
Don't care about her choices except where they impact others. For example, if she stands in a crowded place randomly firing a gun around the room, I have a right to call for a law against that. If she chooses to drive drunk I have a right to call for a law against that. If she wants to kill a baby I have a right to call for a law against that
black dog
Free America
Why do you keep believing that you get to mandate what a woman has to do with her choices...
There are many reasons that a woman chooses to have a abortion, many of them are for medical reasons.
This_person
Well-Known Member
Those make up a very small percentage. I am talking about elective abortion - the 90+%, according to Planned Parenthood
hotbikermama40
New Member
You keep missing the point, BD.
black dog
Free America
Strawman much... Change the laws big boy... Roe has pretty good standing after what 43+ years... Good Luck with that..
PsyOps
Pixelated
I don't believe I've told anyone what to do. In fact, I have stated (in multiple like threads, multiple times) that I have no desire to dictate to anyone how to handle their pregnancy, and I am against an abortion ban. I am personally against abortion. I think it's an abomination in our society. Butchering unborn babies is far more indescribable to me than war. But I don't want government to get involved. I want society to change the way they view life and regard abortion as something that is only reserved for the most extreme of circumstances. There is no law that can cause people to change how they think about things morally.
black dog
Free America
Sorry, I don't roll with " your all's " points..
See I can relate to that because I place a higher value on insects than I do ANY Democrat.
This_person
Well-Known Member
And, how long was Plessy v Ferguson in good standing?
PsyOps
Pixelated
black dog
Free America
It's interesting on the words you anti's commonly used... Abomination, butcher, babies and so on.. you all try to make people feel like criminals with the choice to have a abortion, a medical procedure that perfectly legal here.
and now comparing it to war... not a chance... I'm a combat veteran and I worked a few years after that overseas and it's nothing like war..
black dog
Free America
It was a wrong that was righted... How long have abortions been done...
Going after Roe inside of the DC Beltway is like Guns... It's political suicide...
PsyOps
Pixelated
For the record, I am a 20 year veteran myself.
I'm not comparing it to war in the sense of experience and chaos, I'm comparing in the sense of what we humans will do to each other to accomplish very selfish goals. An abortion is literally butchering that human life. There is flesh and blood literally being torn into pieces. The only thing that's missing from it is the screaming. And I've often said that, if the baby could actually scream when being torn into pieces, we wouldn't be having these conversations. Abortion would definitely be illegal.
And, there is legal precedent for establishing that the fetus is a human life. There have been people convicted of double murder when they killing the mother and the unborn child subsequently died.
This_person
Well-Known Member
Far too long. Another wrong waiting to be righted.
I recall a LOT of things being considered political suicide, and then there's the 2016 election.
The only thing I know of that is political suicide is having something on a Clinton.
Oh wait... Thats usually "Literal" suicide. Sorry.
black dog
Free America
[QUOTE=PsyOps;5776991]For the record, I am a 20 year veteran myself.
I'm not comparing it to war in the sense of experience and chaos, I'm comparing in the sense of what we humans will do to each other to accomplish very selfish goals. An abortion is literally butchering that human life. There is flesh and blood literally being torn into pieces. The only thing that's missing from it is the screaming. And I've often said that, if the baby could actually scream when being torn into pieces, we wouldn't be having these conversations. Abortion would definitely be illegal.
And, there is legal precedent for establishing that the fetus is a human life. There have been people convicted of double murder when they killing the mother and the unborn child subsequently died.[/QUOTE]
You are doing it still, I'm the other Veteran, a Combat Veteran.
It's not anything like war.
And again what you state here are just your opinions and your feelings and opinions are certainly not everyone's feelings and opinions.
And definitely not the law of the land.
And as far as someone killing a mother along with the unborn dieing,
Of course it would be murder..
If it was not the woman's choice to end the fetus's death. ...
It's her choice,,,, no one else's...
And it's always amazed me how many men are against abortion...
I've wondered if the womb was on the other foot would these opinions be the same..
I'm not comparing it to war in the sense of experience and chaos, I'm comparing in the sense of what we humans will do to each other to accomplish very selfish goals. An abortion is literally butchering that human life. There is flesh and blood literally being torn into pieces. The only thing that's missing from it is the screaming. And I've often said that, if the baby could actually scream when being torn into pieces, we wouldn't be having these conversations. Abortion would definitely be illegal.
And, there is legal precedent for establishing that the fetus is a human life. There have been people convicted of double murder when they killing the mother and the unborn child subsequently died.[/QUOTE]
You are doing it still, I'm the other Veteran, a Combat Veteran.
It's not anything like war.
And again what you state here are just your opinions and your feelings and opinions are certainly not everyone's feelings and opinions.
And definitely not the law of the land.
And as far as someone killing a mother along with the unborn dieing,
Of course it would be murder..
If it was not the woman's choice to end the fetus's death. ...
It's her choice,,,, no one else's...
And it's always amazed me how many men are against abortion...
I've wondered if the womb was on the other foot would these opinions be the same..
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