kingpl2 said:
There are some people who say no one should be able to tell anyone else what to do or restrict anyone else from doing anything. I believe this is absurd - a lawless society, license. Society should protect the most vulnerable human beings.
It takes a man and a woman to create a child for a reason. God is the author of life - and no one has a right to a child. Children are not commodities. Every child deserves to live with a male and a female, father and mother not just someone pretending to be a husband and a wife. Why does one homosexual deviant in a "relationship" act like husband and the other act like wife? - because they know the way it should be? God created marriage with Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve any other perversion of that is not of God and bound up with error and pain. Marriage is supposed to be a community of life giving love, even if a man and woman cannot concieve a child they can still be life giving in other ways ...by adoption or giving of themselves for others good in countless other ways. If marriage is everyones right and it's just about having sex for pleasure then you can;t tell the pedophiles and polygamists not to do it either.
Hey King, there is hope. As long as gays can't reproduce, liberals choose not to have kids and the Catholics keep having large familes, we are bound to straighten things out eventually. Here's an article I read this evening.
The nation's Roman Catholic bishops said Wednesday they are developing new guidelines for ministry to gays, reaffirming church opposition to same-gender marriage and adoption by the couples, while condemning discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.
The draft document encourages parishes to make gays feel welcome and provide them pastoral support, and notes that many "are ardently striving to live their faith within the Catholic community so as not to fall into the lifestyle and values of a `gay subculture.'"
But the authors repeatedly state that any such ministries must be led by people who uphold church teaching on sexuality, and assert that Catholic leaders have a right to "deny roles of service" in the church to people who violate that teaching.
"It is not sufficient for those involved in this ministry to adopt a position of distant neutrality with regard to Church teaching," according to the document. "Love and truth go together."
The proposed guidelines, in development since 2002, will be put to a vote and possibly amended by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops when they meet Nov. 13-16 in Baltimore.
Last year, the Vatican Congregation for Catholic Education issued an "instruction" stating men with "deep-seated" homosexual attraction should not be ordained. This latest U.S. bishops' proposal focuses on support for gay Catholics, not whether they should become priests.
The document explains the Catholic view of same-sex attraction as "disordered," emphasizing that sexuality was given as a gift from God to draw men and women together to marry and have children. Gay relationships "violate the true purpose of sexuality," as does adultery and contraception, the authors wrote.
The document also responds to criticism that the church's position is unjust.
Catholic teaching is
based on "objective moral norms," not prejudice, the authors wrote. Western societies don't recognize this reasoning because they generally embrace "moral relativism," while promoting "hedonism" and "
an obsession with the pursuit of pleasure," the document states.
On the topic of therapy to change same-sex attraction, the proposed guidelines state that there is no scientific consensus on whether the counseling is effective, so there is "no moral obligation to attempt it." However,
gays should learn to live chastely and celibately, the drafters wrote.
That was too funny 
well said 
ignore the Dork, come to the Geek 
