Today's speed traps - a new record!

ccrc1

New Member
Bsgal, just remember that those cars are radio dispatched. It is very possible, and most likely, based on your description that the officer was responding to something like an intrusion alarm at a business (we generally won't use emergency lights and run intersections for this type of call) and was cancelled before he got there. He then went on to stop and get gas because he was in the area.
Some of you are correct that they do get out of hand occasionally. Its usually the newer officers that have just been cut loose for solo patrol. I just had one of those "old dude to new guy" conversations with one of them on my squad. Sometimes it takes firmer approach with some to teach them that even though they are doing right, the public may not peceive it as right. Everything you do, no matter how trivial is always in the spotlight.
I will tell you another story about how perception and the public can be ridiculous. I had just moved into a new house and I was leaving for work. I had been waiting for a letter from a relative so I stopped at my mailbox at the end of my driveway in my patrol car to see if it had been delivered. I went through my mail and didn't see it, so I put the mail back in the box so when my wife came home she would take it into the house. Some "I hate the police" citizen saw me checking my mail and immediately assumed the worst. He called in a formal complaint that I was stopping and searching through peoples private mail! He never even considered that it might be my own mail box. I usually don't let these types of things bother me but this one rubbed me the wrong way. Here I was in full uniform, in a marked patrol car and the first thing this bozo thought was I was doing something wrong.
Some days the folks we work, for make it really hard to stand tall. :duh:
 
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Ponytail

New Member
ccrc1 said:
...I had just moved into a new house and I was leaving for work. I had been waiting for a letter from a relative so I stopped at my mailbox at the end of my driveway in my patrol car to see if it had been delivered. I went through my mail and didn't see it, so I put the mail back in the box so when my wife came home she would take it into the house. Some "I hate the police" citizen saw me checking my mail and immediately assumed the worst. He called in a formal complaint that I was stopping and searching through peoples private mail! He never even considered that it might be my own mail box. I usually don't let these types of things bother me but this one rubbed me the wrong way. Here I was in full uniform, in a marked patrol car and the first thing this bozo thought was I was doing something wrong.
Some days the folks we work, for make it really hard to stand tall. :duh:

:lmao:
 

Chasey_Lane

Salt Life
ccrc1 said:
Bsgal, just remember that those cars are radio dispatched. It is very possible, and most likely, based on your description that the officer was responding to something like an intrusion alarm at a business (we generally won't use emergency lights and run intersections for this type of call) and was cancelled before he got there. He then went on to stop and get gas because he was in the area.
Or, it could be possible that the officer was not on a call and was exceeding the speed limit because he is granted "privileges", right? Don't say it doesn't happen - it does.
 

ccrc1

New Member
ccrc1 said:
Some of you are correct that they do get out of hand occasionally. Its usually the newer officers that have just been cut loose for solo patrol. I just had one of those "old dude to new guy" conversations with one of them on my squad. Sometimes it takes firmer approach with some to teach them that even though they are doing right, the public may not peceive it as right. Everything you do, no matter how trivial is always in the spotlight.

This paragraph did show up on your screen, didn't it?
I am happy to share information with the folks here, but I won't be drug into a debate. You will have to find another poster for that. :howdy:
 

Ponytail

New Member
Chasey_Lane said:
Or, it could be possible that the officer was not on a call and was exceeding the speed limit because he is granted "privileges", right? Don't say it doesn't happen - it does.


He already did. :confused:
 

Ponytail

New Member
ccrc1 said:
This paragraph did show up on your screen, didn't it?
I am happy to share information with the folks here, but I won't be drug into a debate. You will have to find another poster for that. :howdy:


'tis ok. It's a common occurence here for folks to not read ALL the words...kinda like what happens when they drive. :lol:
 

migtig

aka Mrs. Giant
Okay, my turn. :lmao:

I :love: police officers. Truly I do. Police have a thankless, low paying high risk job.

That being said...

I recently received my very first ticket in my entire life (I heard my dad roll over in his grave when I got it) for going 59 in a 55. You can't tell me that wasn't :bs:. But I didn't argue, I didn't complain. I accepted that the officer was doing his job. However, I did say "this is my first ticket, can you tell me how this works" and received a very flippant reply and was told to read the back of my ticket. Gee, thanks. :rolleyes: I didn't give him attitude, I didn't give him lip, but I sure got it in return. Nice public outreach.

When I went to court for my very first ticket (I am such a law breaker), I was given one of two options "make a donation or do volunteer work". Since I work two jobs, I made the "donation" which was completely payable to the St Mary's County Board of Commisssioners. :really: You can't tell me that went to the police.

I commute every day to dc and back. I see lots of illegal driving moves by police in several counties along the way. Yes, I give them the benefit of the doubt in regards to responding to calls and what have you. But sometimes, a few authority happy police ruin it for the rest in regards to public perception. Yesterday, in PG I saw a policeman sitting at a redlight. Obviously he decided he didn't want to wait, whipped his car to the side, traveled down the emergency lane, got to the light and turned on his lights and siren, speed thru the light and then once on the other side, turned of the lights and siren and went back to cruising along. Obviously, that was inappropriate.
 

Chasey_Lane

Salt Life
migtig said:
Yesterday, in PG I saw a policeman sitting at a redlight. Obviously he decided he didn't want to wait, whipped his car to the side, traveled down the emergency lane, got to the light and turned on his lights and siren, speed thru the light and then once on the other side, turned of the lights and siren and went back to cruising along. Obviously, that was inappropriate.
I used to see things like this all the time when I was commuting to DC and VA. Traffic would get backed and when the police officer didn't feel like waiting any longer, on come the lights. :lol:
 

Chasey_Lane

Salt Life
morganj614 said:
One car was doing the radar and one car was further up doing the chase.
That's how it was this morning, only there were 5 cop cars doing the radar and one further up stopping the vehicle.
 

willie

Well-Known Member
Chasey_Lane said:
Or, it could be possible that the officer was not on a call and was exceeding the speed limit because he is granted "privileges", right? Don't say it doesn't happen - it does.
Comprehension 101.
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
ccrc1 said:
First, the officer is driving a vehicle that is registered as an Emergency Vehicle through the Maryland MVA. That grants the vehicle some privileges (for law enforcement purposes) not afforded to other vehicles on the highway. Exceeding the speed limit is one of them. (that privilege however does not allow him to operate the vehicle in a careless manner that causes an accident) Think about it for a second, if the patrol car was not exempted, every time the officer paced you for speeding, he would be commiting the same violation you are. :confused:
:bs: You so funny. :killingme

Maybe someone needs a refresher on the Annotated Code of Maryland, Transportation Article, Rules of the Road.
§ 21-106. Emergency vehicles.

(a) Circumstances for which privileges granted.- Subject to the conditions stated in this section, the driver of an emergency vehicle registered in any state may exercise the privileges set forth in this section while:

(1) Responding to an emergency call;
(2) Pursuing a violator or suspected violator of the law; or
(3) Responding to, but not while returning from, a fire alarm.

(b) Enumeration of privileges.- Under the circumstances stated in subsection (a) of this section, the driver of an emergency vehicle may:

(1) Park or stand without regard to the other provisions of this title;
(2) Pass a red or stop signal, a stop sign, or a yield sign, but only after slowing down as necessary for safety;
(3) Exceed any maximum speed limit, but only so long as the driver does not endanger life or property; and
(4) Disregard any traffic control device or regulation governing direction of movement or turning in a specified direction.

(c) Use of audible and visual signs required.-

(1) Subject to paragraph (2) of this subsection, the privileges set forth in this section apply only while the emergency vehicle is using audible and visual signals that meet the requirements of § 22-218 of this article, except that an emergency vehicle operated as a police vehicle need not be equipped with or display the visual signals.
(2) The privileges set forth in subsection (b) (1) of this section apply only while the emergency vehicle is using visual signals that meet the requirements of § 22-218 of this article.
(3) (i) The driver of an emergency vehicle may not use flashing lights or a bell, siren, or exhaust whistle while returning from an emergency call or fire alarm, except that fire apparatus carrying standing firemen may use flashing lights that are visible only to the rear.
(ii) The driver of an emergency vehicle, while parking or backing the emergency vehicle, may use flashing lights within 100 feet of the entrance ramp to a:
1. Fire station; or
2. Rescue station.

(d) Driver not relieved from duty of care.- This section does not relieve the driver of an emergency vehicle from the duty to drive with due regard for the safety of all persons.


Now then Mr. Officer can you show me where you are authorized to do as you said?
 
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