Understanding Taqiyya

mamatutu

mama to two
Muslims are raised, leaving the faith is about the worse thing that can be done

You mean extremist Muslims. That is not fair to all of the Muslim faith. Those that are raised on hate and low self esteem because they do not know how to better themselves. How else do you explain that followers will volunteer to be a bomb. This is why I think they will use these 'martyrs' to willingly become infected with ebola and cross our borders. Biological warfare at its finest. As always, just my opinion.

Edit: Americans did the same to Americans; Native Americans early on, and brothers during the Civil War. We can't forget where we came from and the strife, but we can't be hypocrites at the same time. Is there a difference in the barbarianism of it all? Yes, we are the most powerful and benevolent country in the world. How do we explain that hypocrisy? I see why we are hated. Obama doesn't help matters, because he is on the other side, and wants to see our demise. Won't hurt his butt none, and he knows it. I could deal with this a lot better if I knew Obama's portrait would not be next to George's in the WH. Maybe it is time for another fire in the WH; as in the cleansing of it all.
 
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mAlice

professional daydreamer
When our boys go to war, we pray for their success, for safekeeping, and for them to return home in one piece. Just because we're not holding the gun ourselves, doesn't mean we don't stand behind them. If the war came to us, we would pick up the gun and use it. If anyone thinks the Muslims are any different, you're going to have a rude awakening, and it may be literally from your own bed.

This is not a war between us and them. This is a war between good and evil. Any we'll read Christian, or any well theologian, should be able to determine this from the scriptures. I could be wrong, but I think there is a very good chance that the caliph will be the antichrist.
 

mamatutu

mama to two
When our boys go to war, we pray for their success, for safekeeping, and for them to return home in one piece. Just because we're not holding the gun ourselves, doesn't mean we don't stand behind them. If the war came to us, we would pick up the gun and use it. If anyone thinks the Muslims are any different, you're going to have a rude awakening, and it may be literally from your own bed.

This is not a war between us and them. This is a war between good and evil. Any we'll read Christian, or any well theologian, should be able to determine this from the scriptures. I could be wrong, but I think there is a very good chance that the caliph will be the antichrist.

I have always thought Obama was the antichrist. I know, that is extremist, but that is what I think. Look what has happened since he took office. If I had said this earlier on, I would have been bashed to death, more than I have been already! :lol:
 

Amused_despair

New Member
I have always thought Obama was the antichrist. I know, that is extremist, but that is what I think. Look what has happened since he took office. If I had said this earlier on, I would have been bashed to death, more than I have been already! :lol:

I was worried that Ariel Sharon would turn out to be the Antichrist (headwound=stroke and all) I was relieved when he died.
 

mamatutu

mama to two
I was worried that Ariel Sharon would turn out to be the Antichrist (headwound=stroke and all) I was relieved when he died.

I don't pretend to be the smartest plant in the pot, but I do have my moments. I don't understand your post. Is it serious, or humorous. I get it both ways, but I just want to know how you meant it. Thanks!
 

migtig

aka Mrs. Giant
When our boys go to war, we pray for their success, for safekeeping, and for them to return home in one piece. Just because we're not holding the gun ourselves, doesn't mean we don't stand behind them. If the war came to us, we would pick up the gun and use it. If anyone thinks the Muslims are any different, you're going to have a rude awakening, and it may be literally from your own bed.

This is not a war between us and them. This is a war between good and evil. Any we'll read Christian, or any well theologian, should be able to determine this from the scriptures. I could be wrong, but I think there is a very good chance that the caliph will be the antichrist.

For whatever it matters, I concur with your line of reasoning Malice. I see these things as well, and I'm not hating or being whatever, I just see what logically exists right here and right now. When the Bible, Torah and Koran "stories" are applied and put into context, you can see that everything that is happening right this moment has been predicted, foretold, planned. :shrug:

As an aside, you know, I always thought, you can't believe something without proof. Then I discovered there's plenty of proof, you just have to want to see it.

Those of you arguing and calling malice intolerent just haven't looked at all the facts logically. She's not being intolerant, she's stating a logical fact based on empirical evidence.

If I see a bunch of Muslims scattering flowers and laying down in front of tanks and locking arms in front of a wall of heavily armed "extremist" fighters, then I'll be the first to say the data has changed.
 

punjabigyrl

Active Member
Specifically..very specifically..what on that website is factually incorrect?

This article talks about Taqqiya but it does NOT stress that this is a concept only followed by the Shia sect ONLY. She has lumped the concept to every muslims on earth.
 

hotcoffee

New Member
If instructions had been followed we wouldn't be having this discussion.

I'm referring to Deuteronomy 20

Deuteronomy 20:17 Completely destroy[a] them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you. 18 Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the Lord your God.

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mAlice

professional daydreamer
If instructions had been followed we wouldn't be having this discussion.

I'm referring to Deuteronomy 20

Deuteronomy 20:17 Completely destroy[a] them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you. 18 Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the Lord your God.

:coffee:

I think what a lot of people fail to realize is that these are battles of Biblical proportion, literally. It has been prophesied in the Bible. Many of the prophecies have come to pass. There are only 3 prophecies left to be fulfilled.

1) Rebuilding of The Temple, restoration of Temple worship and animal sacrifices.
2) the rise of Gog, Land of Magog.
3) Mark of the beast, used by the anti Christ. This one may be occurring now, if the beast is to be the caliph. Muslims are already marking themselves by wearing headbands that praise allah, and in some clips I've seen what looks like tattoos of the same.

Luke 21:28
Luke 21:32
 

Merlin99

Visualize whirled peas
PREMO Member
Yup, but with a caveat for the atheistic group...they have the luxury of choice when it comes to gleaning wisdom from any of the religions or philosophies. If you're a theist you don't get to enjoy this philosophical diversity of thought. And yes, it appears religion and politics share the same goal...controlling other people's lives.

What wisdom does an atheist glean from religions?
 

hotcoffee

New Member
I think what a lot of people fail to realize is that these are battles of Biblical proportion, literally. It has been prophesied in the Bible. Many of the prophecies have come to pass. There are only 3 prophecies left to be fulfilled.

1) Rebuilding of The Temple, restoration of Temple worship and animal sacrifices.
2) the rise of Gog, Land of Magog.
3) Mark of the beast, used by the anti Christ. This one may be occurring now, if the beast is to be the caliph. Muslims are already marking themselves by wearing headbands that praise allah, and in some clips I've seen what looks like tattoos of the same.

Luke 21:28
Luke 21:32

Gog and Magog.... hasn't that already started with Russia expanding it's borders? Hasn't China been messing with Japan, retaking their land? Geographically it makes sense. Fiscally it makes sense as well.

I don't buy the mark being a tattoo. It'll be uniform and required. A tattoo is not required.

The point I was making was that originally.... in God's plan..... the chosen people were supposed to go out and kill everyone else on the planet. That way everyone would be of one people. No other gods to contend with. Had the chosen people listened.... then we would all be living in tranquility longer.... but that's not the path humans took.

It all goes back to the original sin.... not obeying God.

:coffee:
 

mAlice

professional daydreamer
Gog and Magog.... hasn't that already started with Russia expanding it's borders? Hasn't China been messing with Japan, retaking their land? Geographically it makes sense. Fiscally it makes sense as well.

I don't buy the mark being a tattoo. It'll be uniform and required. A tattoo is not required.

The point I was making was that originally.... in God's plan..... the chosen people were supposed to go out and kill everyone else on the planet. That way everyone would be of one people. No other gods to contend with. Had the chosen people listened.... then we would all be living in tranquility longer.... but that's not the path humans took.

It all goes back to the original sin.... not obeying God.

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That's the way I understand it. As for the mark, it's hard to say what it might be, but iSIS is wearing the headbands with writing that praises Allah.

Mankind has been disobeying God since his creation, but I do get your point.
 
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