what would you do?

[Bann]

She very obviously was

You didn't say it that way. HOWEVER,

...if I saw an adult doing anything with a child and a very thick rope, my first instinct would be to take the rope from the adult while at the same time yelling at the child to go quickly.

I don't think I would stop to call 911 first. The response time could not possibly help that child. (not necessarily the fault of the police, just the fact of the matter)

I would take harm to myself in order to protect the child.

 

[Bann]

I can't think of anything more callous than to stand there taking video while a child gets beaten.

That would be abetting

 

[SoMDGirl42]

follow up with a call to CPS.

This child is obviously abused. He is angry because he probably got his ass beat again when he went inside, where witnesses coudn't see.

If he's saying you don't love your kid because you don't beat him, then he's repeating what he's been told. "I love you, that's why I'm beating you, you deserve it".

 

[Bann]

well clearly. I just wonder why not is all.

Probably because you called the non emergency number. You may not have intended this- but you downplayed the incident by not calling 911.

 

[Pete]

I pondered it. But quite frankly, as a single mom living alone w a child of my own, I wasn't sure I wanted to take on a house full of what I suspect are addicts (total judgement call - I have no hard evidence of this).

Still, they know it was me.

Courage is being scared to death....but saddling up anyway.

 

[Bann]

Courage is being scared to death....but saddling up anyway.

 

[Misfit]

I in no way condone violence against children. This child is most likely a victim of abuse. With that being said...

My parents hit me with stuff all the time. Usually a belt and I turned out kind of fine. I'll reminisce on some of the times I can remember and let you decide if I deserved it or not.

-Caught the garage on fire (with the car inside). I won't even discuss how this happened.

-Threw a rock through an oncoming tractor trailer window by mistake. (If you hit the trailer it made a cool "dong" sound but I missed).

-Hit a friend of mine under the eye with a board that had a nail in it. (It slipped right between the bottom lid and his eye ball). We were play fighting and I won.

-Turned on the huge claw machine that the county workers left the keys in over the weekend and drove it pretty well for a while.

-Pulled the hose out of the county buildings propane tank when I was swinging on it and they had to evacuate the block. (The county loved me).

-got caught drinking the communion wine. (This may have been okay if it had been my church and not 3am).

anyhoo, this list goes on and on and on....

I'm sorry Mom & Dad

 

[SoMDGirl42]

I in no way condone violence against children. This child is most likely a victim of abuse. With that being said...

My parents hit me with stuff all the time. Usually a belt and I turned out kind of fine. I'll reminisce on some of the times I can remember and let you decide if I deserved it or not.

-Caught the garage on fire (with the car inside). I won't even discuss how this happened.

-Threw a rock through an oncoming tractor trailer window by mistake. (If you hit the trailer it made a cool "dong" sound but I missed).

-Hit a friend of mine under the eye with a board that had a nail in it. (It slipped right between the bottom lid and his eye ball). We were play fighting and I won.

-Turned on the huge claw machine that the county workers left the keys in over the weekend and drove it pretty well for a while.

-Pulled the hose out of the county buildings propane tank when I was swinging on it and they had to evacuate the block. (The county loved me).

-got caught drinking the communion wine. (This may have been okay if it had been my church and not 3am).

anyhoo, this list goes on and on and on....

I'm sorry Mom & Dad

I'm not sure why your parents beat you for any of those infractions. At the rate you were going, it's a surprise you didn't take yourself out and win a Darwin award.

 

[pebbles]

I in no way condone violence against children. This child is most likely a victim of abuse. With that being said...

My parents hit me with stuff all the time. Usually a belt and I turned out kind of fine. I'll reminisce on some of the times I can remember and let you decide if I deserved it or not.

-Caught the garage on fire (with the car inside). I won't even discuss how this happened.

-Threw a rock through an oncoming tractor trailer window by mistake. (If you hit the trailer it made a cool "dong" sound but I missed).

-Hit a friend of mine under the eye with a board that had a nail in it. (It slipped right between the bottom lid and his eye ball). We were play fighting and I won.

-Turned on the huge claw machine that the county workers left the keys in over the weekend and drove it pretty well for a while.

-Pulled the hose out of the county buildings propane tank when I was swinging on it and they had to evacuate the block. (The county loved me).

-got caught drinking the communion wine. (This may have been okay if it had been my church and not 3am).

anyhoo, this list goes on and on and on....

I'm sorry Mom & Dad

Your poor parents!

 

[Misfit]

Your poor parents!

It's funny, family reunions turn into confessional now. They’re still trying to figure which of their angels did what. Some stuff we still don't talk about.

 

[MarieB]

Tis exactly what I think. Not sure I know what to make of the lack of response from the cops.

Have you tried calling the police to follow up and discuss it further with them a/o CPS?

 

[MarieB]

It's funny, family reunions turn into confessional now. They’re still trying to figure which of their angels did what. Some stuff we still don't talk about.

Sounds like my brother

 

[sockgirl77]

Any updates?

 

[luvmygdaughters]

My first reaction would be to intervene between the child and abuser. I then would call 911. Of course, everyone and circumstances are different. If you are afraid of retribution from the neighbors or if they have harrassed you at all, you can file for protective/restraining order. If the child is telling you that you dont love your children because you dont beat them, you have to remember, thats all this child has been told in his/her little 11 years they've been on this earth. Its a form of brainwashing and intimidation. If I were you, I would be on the phone to CPS everyday, demanding to know what is happening with the complaint and the child. You say these children spend a lot of time at your house, have you noticed any other signs of abuse?

 

[Dupontster]

I in no way condone violence against children. This child is most likely a victim of abuse. With that being said...

My parents hit me with stuff all the time. Usually a belt and I turned out kind of fine. I'll reminisce on some of the times I can remember and let you decide if I deserved it or not.

-Caught the garage on fire (with the car inside). I won't even discuss how this happened.

-Threw a rock through an oncoming tractor trailer window by mistake. (If you hit the trailer it made a cool "dong" sound but I missed).

-Hit a friend of mine under the eye with a board that had a nail in it. (It slipped right between the bottom lid and his eye ball). We were play fighting and I won.

-Turned on the huge claw machine that the county workers left the keys in over the weekend and drove it pretty well for a while.

-Pulled the hose out of the county buildings propane tank when I was swinging on it and they had to evacuate the block. (The county loved me).

-got caught drinking the communion wine. (This may have been okay if it had been my church and not 3am).

anyhoo, this list goes on and on and on....

I'm sorry Mom & Dad

Hey, don't dwell on all the negatives. At least you picked the right forum name...

 

[drivingdaisy]

I can't think of anything more callous than to stand there taking video while a child gets beaten.

I know. I'm not sure I could do it. But sometimes our gut reactions/actions are only momentarily helpful and not long term helpful. If you attacked the parent beating a child, you yourself could end up in jail AND not have any proof of the parent's inappropriate actions. Where with a video you would have proof that could ultimately help get the child away from the parents more permanently than just stopping the one beating. I'm not saying I would be able to do it, or I wouldn't be able to try to do something more immediate but my mind sometimes wonders which is really more helpful. My mind likes to argue with itself a lot.

 

[ArkRescue]

I know. I'm not sure I could do it. But sometimes our gut reactions/actions are only momentarily helpful and not long term helpful. If you attacked the parent beating a child, you yourself could end up in jail AND not have any proof of the parent's inappropriate actions. Where with a video you would have proof that could ultimately help get the child away from the parents more permanently than just stopping the one beating. I'm not saying I would be able to do it, or I wouldn't be able to try to do something more immediate but my mind sometimes wonders which is really more helpful. My mind likes to argue with itself a lot.

Had there been a video, it could have been provided to CHS to at least get that family on their radar (if they were not already).

Recently a Father beat his kid with a belt, videotaped it, and put it on FB (or made his kid do it?). I figured that video would get pulled by FB pretty fast.

 

[aps45819]

From inside your closed home you hear the blood curdling screams of a child.

I caught a dragon fly as I was getting into the car with my 14 year old, 190 lb son and I showed it to him in my hand.

He screamed so loud it hurt my ears and he fell climbing out of the car to get away.

 

[PRIVATEYE]

Several unfortunate things to note:
1) nothing seems to have been done - mom and children are still there
2) child is primarily the one doing the heckling - amongst other things, he has made the statement that I just don't love my kid b/c I don't beat him. Saddens me that he likely honestly believes this to be true.
3) there are several other things with these kids that don't seem quite right - they have spent a lot of time at my house
4) I don't believe you can get restraining orders for neighbors

you most certainly CAN file a peace order against neighbors. you go before the commissioner in order to obtain, once you have filled out the paperwork. they are then served with the papers. temporary orders are usually given...short term 14-21 days or something and then you can get extension of 6-12 months.

 

[xobxdoc]

You didn't say it that way. HOWEVER,

...if I saw an adult doing anything with a child and a very thick rope, my first instinct would be to take the rope from the adult while at the same time yelling at the child to go quickly.

I don't think I would stop to call 911 first. The response time could not possibly help that child. (not necessarily the fault of the police, just the fact of the matter)

I would take harm to myself in order to protect the child.

I would definitely call first. Once you intervene, that maybe your only chance to call.