Larry Gude
Strung Out
bohman...
...the question I was responding to was 'why are there these seemingly racist organizations'.
If you ask me 'are we right to do so?' I say absolutely NOT. Someone else pointed out that in and of themselves race based organizations and policies are just that, racist.
There is nothing worse, notthing so insidious as all these programs and policies and groups that specifically say, when they're not implying it, that blacks ARE inferior, that blacks must be tended to and cared for. It's the social crime of low expectations.
To me, many blacks just don't buy it. Everywhere in society blacks can and do excell by doing the same things successful people of any race do; work hard, sacrifice, network, get in and stay in the game, work harder and so forth.
But then there's that 90% support for a party that feeds them scraps and lip service...
Frederick Douglas said it best back in 1864 or so in response to a growing public interest in 'what to do to help the negro assimilate' to freedom;
Just leave us alone.
No one then, now or ever wants to be treated like there's something wrong with them...especially when there's not.
bohman said:Why am I making up for the sins of slavery? My Irish and German ancestors arrived in this country in the 1860s and 1930s, respectively. They were also dirt poor farmers and blacksmiths. Even if they had arrived in this country at a time when slavery existed, they weren't the people who would have owned slaves.
...the question I was responding to was 'why are there these seemingly racist organizations'.
If you ask me 'are we right to do so?' I say absolutely NOT. Someone else pointed out that in and of themselves race based organizations and policies are just that, racist.
There is nothing worse, notthing so insidious as all these programs and policies and groups that specifically say, when they're not implying it, that blacks ARE inferior, that blacks must be tended to and cared for. It's the social crime of low expectations.
To me, many blacks just don't buy it. Everywhere in society blacks can and do excell by doing the same things successful people of any race do; work hard, sacrifice, network, get in and stay in the game, work harder and so forth.
But then there's that 90% support for a party that feeds them scraps and lip service...
Frederick Douglas said it best back in 1864 or so in response to a growing public interest in 'what to do to help the negro assimilate' to freedom;
Just leave us alone.
No one then, now or ever wants to be treated like there's something wrong with them...especially when there's not.