Will they go to heaven?

[SShewbert]

What I am trying to say:
If someone, me as an example, was not exposed to these teachings by outside forces, I would be able to make whatever standards I wanted, and according to some of you Christians, be able to get into heaven because I was never exposed to "His Word" and thus, His standards.

So, my point, screw you all for screwing me out of an easy trip to heaven

Your welcome. But there is still an easy way you just have to accept it. Accepting that fact that God is there and gave his only begotten son for our sins does not seem like a hard thing to do to me.

 

[bcp]

So, my point, screw you all for screwing me out of an easy trip to heaven

ok, in a sick sort of way, that is funny.

kinda like, if they didnt post the speed limit on the road, could you ever be charged with speeding?

 

[SShewbert]

In other words, someone is gonna cut em and then offer them a bandaid

Please pardon me I may be a little slow but did not understand your analogy there.

 

[Xaquin44]

Then ok that is what you believe. I can not change your mind.

I just find it hilarious that actual people think that before jesus, one of the ways to salvation was killing animals for god. So was it volume? I mean, could 100 squirrels = a cow? Or how about just ten as they would be harder to catch?

 

[theArtistFormerlyKnownAs]

Your welcome. But there is still an easy way you just have to accept it. Accepting that fact that God is there and gave his only begotten son for our sins does not seem like a hard thing to do to me.

Which bible are you following? The one I know of has a lot more rules than that

 

[SShewbert]

ok, in a sick sort of way, that is funny.

kinda like, if they didnt post the speed limit on the road, could you ever be charged with speeding?

Man I hate that. Cause they never do have enough signs of the speed limit posted. Am I supposed to be a mind reader?

 

[theArtistFormerlyKnownAs]

ok, in a sick sort of way, that is funny.

kinda like, if they didnt post the speed limit on the road, could you ever be charged with speeding?

Precisely.

 

[Radiant1]

So, my point, screw you all for screwing me out of an easy trip to heaven

It wouldn't have been an easy trip to heaven. Possible, but not very likely. Especially since you would want to eff everything that moves.

Hearing the Word of God and doing one's best to live up to it is the easier route.

 

[kom526]

What I am trying to say:
If someone, me as an example, was not exposed to these teachings by outside forces, I would be able to make whatever standards I wanted, and according to some of you Christians, be able to get into heaven because I was never exposed to "His Word" and thus, His standards.

So, my point, screw you all for screwing me out of an easy trip to heaven

Which teachings? Which standards?

If you are a true atheist like I believe you purported yourself to be, then you shouldn't be worried about being screwed out of a trip to heaven.

 

[SShewbert]

I just find it hilarious that actual people think that before jesus, one of the ways to salvation was killing animals for god. So was it volume? I mean, could 100 squirrels = a cow? Or how about just ten as they would be harder to catch?

It was one perfect lamb without any blemish. I still think that was probably hard to find though. But I am not one to question.

 

[theArtistFormerlyKnownAs]

I just find it hilarious that actual people think that before jesus, one of the ways to salvation was killing animals for god. So was it volume? I mean, could 100 squirrels = a cow? Or how about just ten as they would be harder to catch?

ok. this made me laugh out loud and I'm sitting here in a cubicle at work

 

[SShewbert]

Which bible are you following? The one I know of has a lot more rules than that

Well there are but the main part of salvation is simple as you can get. As I stated eariler is that the rest I think is just common sense. Adultery is a sin and not many people actually condone that so thats common sense. Just to state an example. There are more as you stated.

 

[theArtistFormerlyKnownAs]

It wouldn't have been an easy trip to heaven. Possible, but not very likely. Especially since you would want to eff everything that moves.

Hearing the Word of God and doing one's best to live up to it is the easier route.

No. It WOULD have been easy, according to your fellow Christians, because (according to them) if I hadn't been exposed to God's standards in life, there would be nothing wrong with "effing anything that moved", or doing anything else for that matter, that I felt was OK in my heart.

Which teachings? Which standards?

If you are a true atheist like I believe you purported yourself to be, then you shouldn't be worried about being screwed out of a trip to heaven.

Wrong. I believe there is most likely some Overseeing Being. I will call him a God based on societies standards. I also have my own standards for living and will not follow religious standards unless they happen to coincide with my own.

 

[Xaquin44]

It was one perfect lamb without any blemish. I still think that was probably hard to find though. But I am not one to question.

I hope they sacrificed some of that mint jelly stuff too.

 

[theArtistFormerlyKnownAs]

Well there are but the main part of salvation is simple as you can get. As I stated eariler is that the rest I think is just common sense. Adultery is a sin and not many people actually condone that so thats common sense. Just to state an example. There are more as you stated.

My point:
No. It is not common sense. It is a principle passed down to us by society. If we were in a different society, such as the Amazonians, and this principle wasn't addressed, then it is not "common sense" to them that it is wrong. it is just another part of life.

 

[SShewbert]

No. It WOULD have been easy, according to your fellow Christians, because (according to them) if I hadn't been exposed to God's standards in life, there would be nothing wrong with "effing anything that moved", or doing anything else for that matter, that I felt was OK in my heart.



Wrong. I believe there is most likely some Overseeing Being. I will call him a God based on societies standards. I also have my own standards for living and will not follow religious standards unless they happen to coincide with my own.

Did you see my post concerning being held accountable. I do not feel that even if you have never been exposed you could just do anything you want as long as you feel it is OK.


Well at least you believe in something. May I ask what your own standards are?

 

[wxtornado]

So it is a demon? What is your belief? I am gathering that you are atheist but I do not want to assume.

Yes, it certainly looks like a devil of some sort, and yes, I am an atheist.

 

[SShewbert]

I hope they sacrificed some of that mint jelly stuff too.

Dont know dont care all that much for lamb myself. I hear it is really tender though.

 

[Xaquin44]

Dont know dont care all that much for lamb myself. I hear it is really tender though.

I don't like it either, but I know a lot of people that eat it with that jelly.

 

[theArtistFormerlyKnownAs]

Well at least you believe in something. May I ask what your own standards are?

They are too numerous to address. You should know that because you have a whole book full of your own

I live life as I see fit The only reason I follow (most) laws is because there are legal reprecussions to breaking them. I set my own standards with moral laws