21-month-old girl killed by dogs

Baja28

Baja28

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Chris0nllyn said:
Don't worry, I'm not laughing at the situation....just you.
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Of course you are. :poorbaby: It's normal to laugh at someone displaying common sense. Down right hilarious isn't it? :killingme

One can only laugh when face with an unwinnable argument. :yay:
 
Chris0nllyn

Chris0nllyn

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Baja28 said:
Of course you are. :poorbaby: It's normal to laugh at someone displaying common sense. Down right hilarious isn't it? :killingme

One can only laugh when face with an unwinnable argument. :yay:
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I own a pit, she hasn't killed any animals, or kids.

You lost your argument.
 
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Chris0nllyn

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Baja28 said:
Yet. :coffee: Count your blessings.

Oh those family pits hadn't killed any kids yet either. :coffee:
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Although there are no accurate or even near accurate census records
for dogs in the U.S., in some populations pit bulls are estimated to
comprise some 30-40% of the dog population, making it a very popular
breed. Considering that there were an estimated 53,000,000 dogs in the
U.S., and assuming that pit bulls make up 10% of that population, there
would be approximately 5.3 million pit bulls in our society. In 2000, 13 pit
bulls were involved in 8 fatal attacks. That is roughly ONE dog out of
204,000 - or .000385 percent of the pit bull population.

About 40 people (children) per year die by drowning in 5-gallon water
pails. A person, during their lifetime, is 16 times more likely to drown in a
5-gallon water pail than to be killed by a pit bull.

Approximately 50 children in the US are killed every year by their cribs
- 25 times the number of children and adults killed by pit bulls.

Approximately 150 people are killed every year by falling coconuts.
Therefore, you are more than 60 TIMES MORE LIKELY to be killed by a
PALM TREE than a pit bull.

Each year, 350 people drown in their bathtubs. You are 151 times
more likely to be killed by your bathtub than you are by a pit bull.

It is estimated that about 500 deaths per year are caused by aspirin.
You are more than 200 times more likely to die from taking aspirin than
from a pit bull attack.

Every year, more than 2,000 children in the U.S. are killed by their
parents or guardians either through abuse or neglect. A child is more
than 800 times more likely to be killed by their adult caretaker than by a
pit bull.

It is estimated that 5,000,000 dogs per year are killed in shelters.
Since in many places pit bulls make up 30-50% of the shelter population,
and are less likely to be considered for placement than any other breed,
guessing that 25% of those dogs killed is a reasonable estimate.
Therefore, it can be assumed that perhaps 1.25 million pit bulls are killed
per year.

Therefore - it is at least a HALF MILLION TIMES MORE LIKELY that a pit
bull will be killed by a HUMAN than the other way around

I'll take my chances.
 
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vraiblonde said:
Then we can probably also agree that the reason we're blaming the adults who were supposed to be supervising this kid is because they should have known the dogs were dangerous and prone to attack. Otherwise, what's the big deal about the little girl going out to play with the doggies?
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No, I'm blaming the adults because they were supposed to be supervising this kid...period, not because they should have known the dogs were dangerous and prone to attack. She was a toddler, not even two years old, and they should have been supervising her because that's what they were supposed to be doing. That's what responsible parents and family members do, supervise their children. I'm saying that:

A) This little girl was outside alone and unsupervised at the age of barely two years old, which in and of itself is completely unacceptable in my opinion, and

B) Any breed of dog could have attacked this child, though I understand pits are known to bite. Rottweilers, German shepherds, huskies, Alaskan malamutes, Doberman pinschers, chows, Great Danes, St. Bernards and Akitas are also known to be biters. Would we be having the same debate if it were 7 huskies? I doubt it. (www.dogbites.org)

I'm not defending pit bulls, let me make that clear. Who knows 'why' they attacked then and hadn't (attacked her) in the past. I personally wouldn't own one for the same reason I wouldn't own any of the dogs I listed above. I'm only saying that the adults who were supposed to be surpervising this child are very, very much to blame here.
 
vraiblonde

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Chris0nllyn said:
In 2000, 13 pit
bulls were involved in 8 fatal attacks. That is roughly ONE dog out of
204,000 - or .000385 percent of the pit bull population.
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Your post is filled with faulty statistics, not to mention...2000? Your pulling up data from 13 years ago and presenting it as valid?

There are far more bathtubs, parents, and cribs in homes with children than pitbulls. A better comparison would be a percentage of population statistic. As in what is the percentage of children who come into contact with a bathtub, and what percentage of them drown in that bathtub. Then compare that to the percentage of children who are killed or mauled by pitbulls they come into contact with.

See that "mauled" up there? Just because someone wasn't actually killed doesn't mean their life isn't changed forever.

So fix your statistics and then we can talk.
 
Baja28

Baja28

Obama destroyed America
Chris0nllyn said:
Although there are no accurate or even near accurate census records
for dogs in the U.S., in some populations pit bulls are estimated to
comprise some 30-40% of the dog population, making it a very popular
breed. Considering that there were an estimated 53,000,000 dogs in the
U.S., and assuming that pit bulls make up 10% of that population, there
would be approximately 5.3 million pit bulls in our society. In 2000, 13 pit
bulls were involved in 8 fatal attacks. That is roughly ONE dog out of
204,000 - or .000385 percent of the pit bull population.

About 40 people (children) per year die by drowning in 5-gallon water
pails. A person, during their lifetime, is 16 times more likely to drown in a
5-gallon water pail than to be killed by a pit bull.

Approximately 50 children in the US are killed every year by their cribs
- 25 times the number of children and adults killed by pit bulls.

Approximately 150 people are killed every year by falling coconuts.
Therefore, you are more than 60 TIMES MORE LIKELY to be killed by a
PALM TREE than a pit bull.

Each year, 350 people drown in their bathtubs. You are 151 times
more likely to be killed by your bathtub than you are by a pit bull.

It is estimated that about 500 deaths per year are caused by aspirin.
You are more than 200 times more likely to die from taking aspirin than
from a pit bull attack.

Every year, more than 2,000 children in the U.S. are killed by their
parents or guardians either through abuse or neglect. A child is more
than 800 times more likely to be killed by their adult caretaker than by a
pit bull.

It is estimated that 5,000,000 dogs per year are killed in shelters.
Since in many places pit bulls make up 30-50% of the shelter population,
and are less likely to be considered for placement than any other breed,
guessing that 25% of those dogs killed is a reasonable estimate.
Therefore, it can be assumed that perhaps 1.25 million pit bulls are killed
per year.

Therefore - it is at least a HALF MILLION TIMES MORE LIKELY that a pit
bull will be killed by a HUMAN than the other way around

I'll take my chances.
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BAM~!! And he's done!! Now go post which breed of dog kills the most. :coffee: Check Mate.
 
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Baja28

Baja28

Obama destroyed America
Kris10 said:
No, I'm blaming the adults because they were supposed to be supervising this kid...period, not because they should have known the dogs were dangerous and prone to attack. She was a toddler, not even two years old, and they should have been supervising her because that's what they were supposed to be doing. That's what responsible parents and family members do, supervise their children. I'm saying that:

A) This little girl was outside alone and unsupervised at the age of barely two years old, which in and of itself is completely unacceptable in my opinion, and

B) Any breed of dog could have attacked this child, though I understand pits are known to bite. Rottweilers, German shepherds, huskies, Alaskan malamutes, Doberman pinschers, chows, Great Danes, St. Bernards and Akitas are also known to be biters. Would we be having the same debate if it were 7 huskies? I doubt it. (www.dogbites.org)

I'm not defending pit bulls, let me make that clear. Who knows 'why' they attacked then and hadn't (attacked her) in the past. I personally wouldn't own one for the same reason I wouldn't own any of the dogs I listed above. I'm only saying that the adults who were supposed to be surpervising this child are very, very much to blame here.
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Go watch Misfits video.

That little girl could have played in her yard without dying had the pits not been there.
 
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Kris10

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Baja28 said:
Go watch Misfits video.

That little girl could have played in her yard without dying had the pits not been there.
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Sheesh....okay, okay. Kill the pits. Kill all the pits. And while they're at it, kill all the Rottweilers, German shepherds, huskies, Alaskan malamutes, Doberman pinschers, chows, Great Danes, St. Bernards and Akitas as well :yay:

Are you happy now? :ohwell:


Also, why not just off any parent that allows their freakin ALMOST TWO YEAR OLD to play ALONE OUTSIDE, regardless if they even have a dog. What if the kid got out of the gate and was hit by a car? Should we stop driving? KILL THE CARS!!!
 
luvmygdaughters

luvmygdaughters

Well-Known Member
ICit said:
i know some cant take the breed out of it.... but try to for one second...

either of you understand pack mentallity???? guess not

I have 5 large dogs... and i had a dog fight last night...

The bloodhound i have is the alpha dog and lashed out at my other male... those two get into it... Im there trying to pull them off each other and trying not to get in the middle of the fight. As soon as the pack heard the fight... a few tried to join in..... as thats what a pack does.

point is.... a pack will work as a team... wolves, dogs....whatever.
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Your right about that. My sister and bil had some dealings with that when they had their male rottie.
 
MarieB

MarieB

New Member
migtig said:
You missed the most important line in the article:
The grandmother and others rushed outside to pull the dogs off the child, however their actions were too late to save her Beatty said.

So it wasn't a child alone with her granny not supervising...again, I've heard too many rumors from people personally vested in this, and I really think that we need to wait until further information becomes available to speculate.
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You obviously know more, but I didn't miss that. I took it to mean neighbors and it someone else in the home
 
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