Age of consent

[dems4me]

Oh God...are we gonna get into "what is love?" I sure hope not because that's a whole lot more complicated than teenage sex. But tell me this, how many of those 14-yos you knew are still "in love" with each other now that they are 30-somethings... if they aren't now, they never really were.

I think it is possible for a 14-yo to fall in true love, but it is EXTREMELY rare, because few of them have the maturity level to feel such an unselfish feeling. I think it much more likely for a person that young to idealize the idea of love and they can certainly feel lust, which is often mistaken for love.

An immature 14-yo may act on what he or she perceives as love, but a mature 14-yo will recognize that it is best to wait, love or not, because of the potential consequences. And if they truly "love" this other person, they won't want to limit that person's future by forcing them to accept the responsibilities of parenthood too soon because they were too horny to stop themselves.

I havent a clue what these folks are doing except for one or two and both are divorced with kids but I do honestly believe they were in love with each other (both couples). Just because folks get divorced doesn't mean there were never really "in love" :shrug: I guess we disagree there too :shrug:

The rest of the folks went down a path I didn't want to follow and I moved out of the state I have no idea if they are even alive and no desire to track them down.

Also, you keep stating all the negative consequences to having sex - there doesn't have to be if you use protection :shrug: I think that's what some folks need to focus on when talking with their teenagers about sex. I don't think you can scare the teenager into not having sex (i.e. STDS, unwanted pregnances, mantra etc..) because realistically there are ways around that and they aren't dumb - they know this and may just blow ya' off. My folks tried the scare tactics - you'll get stds, pregnant, etc... as they themselves had my brother and I before my mother turned 18. Believe me they tried fear and set an example of "this could happy to you" stuff - but it didnt' work. I just made damn'd sure to always use protection.

 

[Wenchy]

When they can ask themselves, "what if I get (get her) pregnant?" and can answer that with, "I have a source of income to support a child. I have the ability to care for a child, even if this other person turns out to be a loser and bails on me and I am prepared to be connected to this person on some level through that child for the rest of my life."

The rest of you can keep your pants on.

 

[Dymphna]

I havent a clue what these folks are doing except for one or two and both are divorced with kids but I do honestly believe they were in love with each other (both couples). Just because folks get divorced doesn't mean there were never really "in love" :shrug: I guess we disagree there too :shrug:

The rest of the folks went down a path I didn't want to follow and I moved out of the state I have no idea if they are even alive and no desire to track them down.

Also, you keep stating all the negative consequences to having sex - there doesn't have to be if you use protection :shrug: I think that's what some folks need to focus on when talking with their teenagers about sex. I don't think you can scare the teenager into not having sex (i.e. STDS, unwanted pregnances, mantra etc..) because realistically there are ways around that and they aren't dumb - they know this and may just blow ya' off. My folks tried the scare tactics - you'll get stds, pregnant, etc... as they themselves had my brother and I before my mother turned 18. Believe me they tried fear and set an example of "this could happy to you" stuff - but it didnt' work. I just made damn'd sure to always use protection.

condoms break

Had a neighbor in my first house...they had 4 kids from 4 different types of contraception failing. They finally got him fixed.

 

[Nickel]

I just made damn'd sure to always use protection.

Me too, and I have a five year old to show for it.

 

[dems4me]

condoms break

Had a neighbor in my first house...they had 4 kids from 4 different types of contraception failing. They finally got him fixed.

 

[Pete]

Then what are you arguing about?

If you do not believe this kid is a child molester, and you do not think 10 years is an appropriate punishment for teen sex, then what is your point?????

Because THAT is what we're talking about here:

A 17 year old kid who engaged in sex with a 15 year old, and was convicted as a child molester and sentenced to 10 years.

IF you do not think he is a child molester, AND you do not think what he did was worth 10 years in jail, then DO YOU believe that the conviction and sentenced imposed on this young man by the Georgia judicial system was wrong and the law is stupid?????









?????????!!!!!!!

My poll is about what age can consent. You have said "Do away with consent laws" and "Teenagers having sex being a crime is stupid" My arguement is that they are not stupid.

Now agree and we can be done with it.

 

[Pete]

What age do you say it goes beyond infatuation to wanting to move onto the next step :shrug: And how long do you think they should stay in this step of handholding, kissing and petting before taking the next step:shrug:

34

I want to know when it became unreasonable to keep their legs clamped togethe then their c0cks in their jocks? I was a frustrated teenager too for a long time.

I also want to know when 17 and older males became so engrossed with hormones that they are totally and blindly controlled by animal lust and unable to suppress the urge to mate with chicks under 16?

I think that 16 is a reasonable age. :shrug:

 

[Wenchy]

I think that 16 is a reasonable age. :shrug:

16 is probably the "average" age.

The only thing that bothers me about this case is the fact that it was on videotape. The 17 year old should have had to eat the video cam for doing that. Time in jail? No.

There is nothing unusual about a 15 year old giving a 17 year old a good licking.

Age of consent? 16, and it shouldn't matter if the partner is 16 or 50, as long as the 16 year old agrees.

I remember being referred to as "jailbait"

 

[Pete]

16 is probably the "average" age.

The only thing that bothers me about this case is the fact that it was on videotape. The 17 year old should have had to eat the video cam for doing that. Time in jail? No.

There is nothing unusual about a 15 year old giving a 17 year old a good licking.

Age of consent? 16, and it shouldn't matter if the partner is 16 or 50, as long as the 16 year old agrees.

I remember being referred to as "jailbait"

Agree but I have to ask, how often is a "good licking" not lead to more?

 

[dems4me]

16 is probably the "average" age.

The only thing that bothers me about this case is the fact that it was on videotape. The 17 year old should have had to eat the video cam for doing that. Time in jail? No.

There is nothing unusual about a 15 year old giving a 17 year old a good licking.

Age of consent? 16, and it shouldn't matter if the partner is 16 or 50, as long as the 16 year old agrees.

I remember being referred to as "jailbait"

I agree with you on something

 

[Wenchy]

Agree but I have to ask, how often is a "good licking" not lead to more?

In my case? I started when I was 7 and didn't go all the way until I was 16

The men involved should have been prosecuted, but we kept everything hush hush back then.

 

[kwillia]

I agree with you on something

16 is more reasonable than your original post regarding "really, really, really mature 14 year olds" who "know" they are in love.

 

[river rat]

Again, my answer is 18.

 

[dems4me]

16 is more reasonable than your original post regarding "really, really, really mature 14 year olds" who "know" they are in love.

I havn't waivered :shrug: My opinion is still a really mature 14 year old. I was moreso agreeing that a 15 year old and 17 year old wouldn't surprise me at all either :shrug: That's my opinion. Doesn't mean its right or wrong, just my opinion. Pete was asking folks for their opinion on consent I think 14 should be old enough to make the decision for him or herself.

 

[onebdzee]

I havn't waivered :shrug: My opinion is still a really mature 14 year old. I was moreso agreeing that a 15 year old and 17 year old wouldn't surprise me at all either :shrug: That's my opinion. Doesn't mean its right or wrong, just my opinion. Pete was asking folks for their opinion on consent I think 14 should be old enough to make the decision for him or herself.

I don't think I have ever met a 14 yr old that was mature enough to make a "life changing" decision as having sex

 

[dems4me]

I don't think I have ever met a 14 yr old that was mature enough to make a "life changing" decision as having sex

I did it at 14 and even earlier. I think however I was alot more mature at 14. So I said 14. It wasn't a "life changing" decision for me. :shrug: Protection doesn't always mess up. :shrug: Isn't there something like only a 99.9% change of a condom breaking?

 

[onebdzee]

I did it at 14 and even earlier. I think however I was alot more mature at 14. So I said 14. It wasn't a "life changing" decision for me. :shrug: Protection doesn't always mess up. :shrug: Isn't there something like only a 99.9% change of a condom breaking?

I was in that .1%......twice

 

[Wenchy]

I did it at 14 and even earlier. I think however I was alot more mature at 14. So I said 14. It wasn't a "life changing" decision for me. :shrug: Protection doesn't always mess up. :shrug: Isn't there something like only a 99.9% change of a condom breaking?

Condoms are 80% effective. This means that 2/10 will get preggers using only the condom (in a year's time)

 

[BuffaloBill]

Condoms are 80% effective. This means that 2/10 will get preggers using only the condom (in a year's time)

Show where you get those #'s..I know it's allot less than.

 

[dems4me]

1 out of 5???? I certainly have been awfully lucky all these years