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vraiblonde

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AndyMarquisLIVE said:
I don't think he had WMD in his possession to start with.
But we already know that he did - it was widely reported that he used nerve gas to subdue the Kurds in 1988 killing up to 7,000 people. If that's not "mass destruction" I don't know what is.

And if he wasn't building nuclear weapons, why did he throw out the UN inspectors? Common sense should tell you that Saddam would welcome the opportunity to prove to the UN that he wasn't building nukes, so they'd relax the sanctions.

And, no, I don't think he would've attacked us.
Two presidents - one Democrat and one Republican - disagreed with you.
 

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No, no . Andy is an "Independent", even though he constantly regurgitates all the Democratic talking points and almost always uses quotes from MSNBC and CNN.
Oh I see. Because really I seemed lost there for a minute i thought he was trying to make a valid point
 

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AndyMarquisLIVE said:
I don't think he had WMD in his possession to start with.

Tell UNSCOM. They actually supervised the destruction of some of them.

They must have been hallucinating.
 

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SamSpade said:
Tell UNSCOM. They actually supervised the destruction of some of them.

They must have been hallucinating.
No no you have it all wrong, they were lying. making it up for the evening news
 

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SamSpade said:
Tell UNSCOM. They actually supervised the destruction of some of them.

They must have been hallucinating.
See, I dont understand that. Why do the Democrats keep insisting that Saddam didn't have WMD? :confused:
 
Given time and a little bit of googling I can bring forth statements from such high rankling Democrats as Hillary and Bill Clinton ,John Kerry ,the United Nations and Mad Woman Allbright all swearing that Iraq had WMD's. Now on monday morning they quarterback it that Saddam didnt have any. Were they all idiots when they said he did?
Well yeah,-- they were, but that doesnt change the fact that most of the world believed Saddam had these weapons.

When Clinton lied --no one died? Tell that to the people in Kosovo we bombed the crap out of because Bill wanted to get his head job out of the news. Tell it to the soldiers who died in Somalia. Tell it to the men on the USS Cole. We certainly cant say no one died, but we can say the promise that Clinton made to make those responsible for it pay was a damned lie. No one paid while Clinton was in office. He passed off all the dirty work to those coming in behind him. On top of that he left them an intelligence aparatus that was worse than useless.

I dont know about a person who claims to not be Democrat and has as a signature phrase that he will hug our elephant and we can kiss his ass. I tend to feel that is damned misleading and maybe he should put some thought into changing it if he wants to be an independent.
 

AndyMarquisLIVE

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vraiblonde said:
But we already know that he did - it was widely reported that he used nerve gas to subdue the Kurds in 1988 killing up to 7,000 people. If that's not "mass destruction" I don't know what is.

And if he wasn't building nuclear weapons, why did he throw out the UN inspectors? Common sense should tell you that Saddam would welcome the opportunity to prove to the UN that he wasn't building nukes, so they'd relax the sanctions.


Two presidents - one Democrat and one Republican - disagreed with you.

1988 is not 2001. He was killing his own people. Yeah, that's shocking, it's terrible. But is it grounds for war? Why aren't we doing anything in Sudan then?

Why did U.N. inspectors say he had destroyed whatever WMD he knew to have in 2002?

George W. Bush just wanted to finish what his daddy started.
 

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AndyMarquisLIVE said:
1988 is not 2001. He was killing his own people. Yeah, that's shocking, it's terrible. But is it grounds for war? Why aren't we doing anything in Sudan then?

Why did U.N. inspectors say he had destroyed whatever WMD he knew to have in 2002?

George W. Bush just wanted to finish what his daddy started.
what are you going to be tonight for Halloween?
 

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AndyMarquisLIVE said:
1988 is not 2001. He was killing his own people. Yeah, that's shocking, it's terrible. But is it grounds for war? Why aren't we doing anything in Sudan then?
One word on this: Kosovo!

Why did U.N. inspectors say he had destroyed whatever WMD he knew to have in 2002?

Re: my post on UNR 1441. Again I ask, why did the UN (THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY) need to ratify UNR 1441 just 4 months before teh invasion demanding Saddam disarm, if he wasn't armed?

George W. Bush just wanted to finish what his daddy started.
And when all logical debate is gone, you resort to this. I would say you could do better but............
 

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PsyOps said:
One word on this: Kosovo!



Re: my post on UNR 1441. Again I ask, why did the UN (THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY) need to ratify UNR 1441 just 4 months before teh invasion demanding Saddam disarm, if he wasn't armed?


And when all logical debate is gone, you resort to this. I would say you could do better but............

Why didn't the UN support this war? Why did they think we based it on a lie? Why does the UN think the invasion of Iraq is illegal? Why do they think we rushed the war for our own purposes?
 

AndyMarquisLIVE

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Nucklesack said:
Who's handling Sudan now?

So now your for the US superceding the UN in the Sudan?

How is Sudan different than Iraq?

Why is it ok to Superced the UN in Sudan but not ok to Supercede the UN in Iraq?

When will you admit you have no argument, and that it doesnt matter what we (the United States) do, you'll be against it just for the reason Bush is in office?

I don't support Kosovo. Wy do you think it's ok to invade Iraq and let the Sudanese continue to suffer? Why will some of you "conservatives" support everything George Bush does just because he's a Republican?

When Clinton did something with al-Qaida, the Republicans were whining and complaining about him trying to distract attention from Monica Lewinski.

If Bushie had a (D) next to his name, you'd be against Iraq and you know it.
 

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AndyMarquisLIVE said:
Why didn't the UN support this war? Why did they think we based it on a lie? Why does the UN think the invasion of Iraq is illegal? Why do they think we rushed the war for our own purposes?
Simple - because several high-ranking UN member nations were getting their palms greased by Saddam. Ever hear of the "oil for food" scandal?
 

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AndyMarquisLIVE said:
Why will some of you "conservatives" support everything George Bush does just because he's a Republican?
That's ridiculous. Some of us "conservatives" are George Bush's harshest critics - go read a few immigration threads. It's just that we criticize him over policy, not his speaking skills. And we also don't call him bombastic names like "Hitler" and say he's the biggest terrorist in the world.
 

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AndyMarquisLIVE said:
When Clinton did something with al-Qaida, the Republicans were whining and complaining about him trying to distract attention from Monica Lewinski.
Clinton did something with Al Qaeda? When? And what did he do?
 

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vraiblonde said:
That's ridiculous. Some of us "conservatives" are George Bush's harshest critics - go read a few immigration threads.

If the Democrats hadn't been such jerks the last few weeks - my mom would be one of those conservatives voting AGAINST the Republicans, for just such reasons. She's voted for them in the past, because of tax cuts and curtailing government spending. But immigration just p!ssed her off too much. When an ILLEGAL can get in-state tuition but someone across the Potomac CAN'T, that's absurd.

But like I said - the Dems just annoyed her too much. If they'd just been quiet about it, they'd have gotten her vote easily.

We support Bush largely on the war. Mostly.

If Democrats would actually find ways to WIN THIS WAR instead of finding new ways to surrender, I could respect them. They voted for it; they need to solve it.
 

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SamSpade said:
When an ILLEGAL can get in-state tuition but someone across the Potomac CAN'T, that's absurd.
I'm waiting for someone to renounce their citizenship so that they can get in-state tuition. :lmao:
 

AndyMarquisLIVE

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SamSpade said:
If the Democrats hadn't been such jerks the last few weeks - my mom would be one of those conservatives voting AGAINST the Republicans, for just such reasons. She's voted for them in the past, because of tax cuts and curtailing government spending. But immigration just p!ssed her off too much. When an ILLEGAL can get in-state tuition but someone across the Potomac CAN'T, that's absurd.

But like I said - the Dems just annoyed her too much. If they'd just been quiet about it, they'd have gotten her vote easily.

We support Bush largely on the war. Mostly.

If Democrats would actually find ways to WIN THIS WAR instead of finding new ways to surrender, I could respect them. They voted for it; they need to solve it.

Split Iraq into three independent countries. That proposal came from Sen. Joe Biden, a Democrat.

Pressuring the Iraqi government to get tougher on Shi'ite militants as the Shi'ites are directly responsible for the mess going on as of this year.

The Iraqi government would rather blame Sunni militants and go after them than actually put pressure on Moqtada al-Sadr.
 
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