Anyone watching Meet the Press?

[PsyOps]

Why didn't the UN support this war? Why did they think we based it on a lie? Why does the UN think the invasion of Iraq is illegal? Why do they think we rushed the war for our own purposes?

Vrai hit the nail on the head. France and Russia (in particular) aimed to lose billions in bribes. Outside of that I have no explanation as to why the UN would write up UNR 1441 demanding Saddam disarm or "face serious consequences" except that they underestimated how serious we were about removing Saddam from power through force. If you look at the UN's track record they have done nothing in terms of world peace. All they do is shake their pompous finger at countries, enact resolutions, talk about what they are going to do, then move on to the next UNR. They do basically nothing. That may explain why they landed in disagreement with the US AND their own UNR in actually doing something about Iraq.

When the UN threw the red carpet out for the Iranian president recently, giving him a forum to voice his anti-American hatred, that spoke volumes about where the UN stands regarding the US. Perhaps that may answer that daunting question you ask.

But you still never answered my question... If the world didn't believe Saddam was armed with WMDs, and Bush lied about it, then how do you explain UNR 1441?

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Vrai hit the nail on the head. France and Russia (in particular) aimed to lose billions in bribes. Outside of that I have no explanation as to why the UN would write up UNR 1441 demanding Saddam disarm or "face serious consequences" except that they underestimated how serious we were about removing Saddam from power through force. If you look at the UN's track record they have done nothing in terms of world peace. All they do is shake their pompous finger at countries, enact resolutions, talk about what they are going to do, then move on to the next UNR. They do basically nothing. That may explain why they landed in disagreement with the US AND their own UNR in actually doing something about Iraq.

When the UN threw the red carpet out for the Iranian president recently, giving him a forum to voice his anti-American hatred, that spoke volumes about where the UN stands regarding the US. Perhaps that may answer that daunting question you ask.

But you still never answered my question... If the world didn't believe Saddam was armed with WMDs, and Bush lied about it, then how do you explain UNR 1441?

Intelligence at the time said he did. This intelligence has since proven to be false. The former CIA director said Bushie was pressuring him to come up with the smoking gun even if it was doubted.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

When the UN threw the red carpet out for the Iranian president recently, giving him a forum to voice his anti-American hatred, that spoke volumes about where the UN stands regarding the US. Perhaps that may answer that daunting question you ask.

They didn't give Bush a chance to address the U.N.?

 

[ylexot]

When the UN threw the red carpet out for the Iranian president recently, giving him a forum to voice his anti-American hatred, that spoke volumes about where the UN stands regarding the US. Perhaps that may answer that daunting question you ask.

I don't think they threw out the red carpet for him and since one of the primary purposes of the UN is to provide a forum for the nations of the world, he should be allowed to speak before the UN.

 

[SamSpade]

Yeah, because partitioning has always worked so well in the past.

Partitioning IS surrender.

It's giving the central vilayet - the one with the bulk of the population, wealth and industry - back to the Sunnis and Baathists.

Hell, they could put Saddam back in charge.

Isn't THAT a great idea? Yep, like I said, come up with a solution that ISN'T surrender.

INVADE Ramadi, al-Anbar, full bore. Invade Sadr City, kick in all the doors. Send in more troops and make the insurgents run like hell. When bullets don't work, use fear. Everything I read in military blogs says the same thing - there are some BRAVE Iraqis out there, and they need our help, and want it.

Check out this site - and read the Chuck Norris bit and the Biggest Surprise. We can WIN THIS WAR by breaking the insurgents' will - but we won't win by simply outlasting them.

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2006/09/marines_highlig.html

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

I don't think they threw out the red carpet for him and since one of the primary purposes of the UN is to provide a forum for the nations of the world, he should be allowed to speak before the UN.

But we conservatives think the whole world is out to get us. Everybody that is against this war is liberal and worthless. There is only one credible source of information, FOX News. Everybody else is a part of the liberal media and they are wrong. Anyody who is against the war is an idiot. We are better than everybody else. We are right, they are wrong. 'They' hate us. Everybody is anti-American. Everybody else is evil.

 

[mv_princess]

But we conservatives think the whole world is out to get us. Everybody that is against this war is liberal and worthless. There is only one credible source of information, FOX News. Everybody else is a part of the liberal media and they are wrong. Anyody who is against the war is an idiot. We are better than everybody else. We are right, they are wrong. 'They' hate us. Everybody is anti-American. Everybody else is evil.

If Fox news is the only right one.....why do you keep pulling quotes from CNN and MSNBC

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Partitioning IS surrender.

It's giving the central vilayet - the one with the bulk of the population, wealth and industry - back to the Sunnis and Baathists.

Hell, they could put Saddam back in charge.

Isn't THAT a great idea? Yep, like I said, come up with a solution that ISN'T surrender.

INVADE Ramadi, al-Anbar, full bore. Invade Sadr City, kick in all the doors. Send in more troops and make the insurgents run like hell. When bullets don't work, use fear. Everything I read in military blogs says the same thing - there are some BRAVE Iraqis out there, and they need our help, and want it.

Check out this site - and read the Chuck Norris bit and the Biggest Surprise. We can WIN THIS WAR by breaking the insurgents' will - but we won't win by simply outlasting them.

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2006/09/marines_highlig.html

Just like Vietnam, right?

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

If Fox news is the only right one.....why do you keep pulling quotes from CNN and MSNBC

Because I was thinking from PsyOps, SamSpade and some of these other Republicans' mindset.

 

[Kerad]

But we conservatives think the whole world is out to get us. Everybody that is against this war is liberal and worthless. There is only one credible source of information, FOX News. Everybody else is a part of the liberal media and they are wrong. Anyody who is against the war is an idiot. We are better than everybody else. We are right, they are wrong. 'They' hate us. Everybody is anti-American. Everybody else is evil.

You forgot "Every negative is Bill Clinton's fault...and every positive is to Bush's credit.". Also : " Vote Republican or you will all die." Other than that...you summed it up pretty nicely.

 

[mv_princess]

Because I was thinking from PsyOps, SamSpade and some of these other Republicans' mindset.

So could you do me a favor then....and please post whatever point your trying to make? Because i can't seem to find one

 

[vraiblonde]

But we conservatives think the whole world is out to get us. Everybody that is against this war is liberal and worthless. There is only one credible source of information, FOX News. Everybody else is a part of the liberal media and they are wrong. Anyody who is against the war is an idiot. We are better than everybody else. We are right, they are wrong. 'They' hate us. Everybody is anti-American. Everybody else is evil.

You lose credibility when you engage in childish over-the-top snittiness.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

You forgot "Every negative is Bill Clinton's fault...and every positive is to Bush's credit.". Also : " Vote Republican or you will all die." Other than that...you summed it up pretty nicely.

Oh oh oh, let's go with another conservative talking point: I'll protect you, the other party will let you die.

Yet they failed to protect us against standing water.

 

[vraiblonde]

Oh oh oh, let's go with another conservative talking point: I'll protect you, the other party will let you die.

Yet they failed to protect us against standing water.

Let us know when you're done with this silliness and ready to go back to serious debate.

 

[ylexot]

Because I was thinking from PsyOps, SamSpade and some of these other Republicans' mindset.

I'm a Republican :shrug:

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Let us know when you're done with this silliness and ready to go back to serious debate.

President Bush: "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees. They did anticipate a serious storm. But these levees got breached. And as a result, much of New Orleans is flooded. And now we are having to deal with it and will."

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

I'm a Republican :shrug:

MAYBE there's a few good conservatives left that aren't completely and totally paranoid?

 

[mv_princess]

President Bush: "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees. They did anticipate a serious storm. But these levees got breached. And as a result, much of New Orleans is flooded. And now we are having to deal with it and will."

What does this have to do with the war?

And please answer my other post

 

[ylexot]

MAYBE there's a few good conservatives left that aren't completely and totally paranoid?

MAYBE there are a few good liberals left that aren't completely and totally paranoid, but sadly, we never hear from them.

 

[MMDad]

President Bush: "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees. They did anticipate a serious storm. But these levees got breached. And as a result, much of New Orleans is flooded. And now we are having to deal with it and will."

What does that have to do with the issue at hand? Remeber, this is about Cardin vs. Steele.

Wait a minute, now I see your logic!

1. "George Bush Doesn't like black people."

2. According to Cardin, Bush likes Steele.

So now we have two choices: Bush doesn't like Steele and Cardin's ads are lies, or Steele isn't really black.