Chopticon teacher on a week +++cruise???

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NoName

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Xaquin44 said:
are you insane?

It is not the teachers discretion to grade papers and do lesson plans. They have to do it or they will be fired.

and guess what?!

When a teacher is 'off' they have to use vacation time too!
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If a teach takes off for a cruise your right they do have to take vacation, as they should

But a teacher takes it up to themselves to grade papers and lesson plans, they could also go out and play in the snow, its their discretion.
 
theArtistFormerlyKnownAs

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NoName said:
If a teach takes off for a cruise your right they do have to take vacation, as they should

But a teacher takes it up to themselves to grade papers and lesson plans, they could also go out and play in the snow, its their discretion.
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So could average joe...but the work has to get done SOMETIME...so its either do it while you're "off" now or work extra hard when you have to go in (or go in early/stay late...same thing a teacher has to do)
 
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pcjohnnyb said:
Thank you...it IS stated right here....look.


So "average joe" gets time and a half if the business decides to use that little practice you claim it is so common to do (don't forget, we're talking salary employees now for a fair comparison...)
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Your right it is, you even bolded it :

However, for salaried employees who fit the definition of Executive, Administrative or Professional (defined in this Guide at paragraph V. B.), and who are ready, willing, and able to work, deductions may not be made for time when work is not available. Doing so will remove this category of employee from exempt salary status, entitling the worker to payment of overtime
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the work around is business will expect you to make up the time, the employee has a choice of making up the time or taking vacation. like i said its crappy but it is in fact how it works
 
Xaquin44

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NoName said:
If a teach takes off for a cruise your right they do have to take vacation, as they should

But a teacher takes it up to themselves to grade papers and lesson plans, they could also go out and play in the snow, its their discretion.
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If they've done their work ....

Do you really think teachers don't have to have grades for tests/projects/quizzes/homework/classwork/papers in at a certain time?
 
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pcjohnnyb said:
So could average joe...but the work has to get done SOMETIME...so its either do it while you're "off" now or work extra hard when you have to go in (or go in early/stay late...same thing a teacher has to do)
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your arguing in circles, the point was and still is Teacher gets the day off, they MAY do some work.

Average Joe gets the day off, they have to work or take vacation.
 
theArtistFormerlyKnownAs

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NoName said:
Your right it is, you even bolded it :



the work around is business will expect you to make up the time, the employee has a choice of making up the time or taking vacation. like i said its crappy but it is in fact how it works
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:doh:
that bolded statement supports my side of the arguement, not your's twit :lol:
 
AndyMarquisLIVE

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NoName said:
your arguing in circles, the point was and still is Teacher gets the day off, they MAY do some work.

Average Joe gets the day off, they have to work or take vacation.
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You're missing the point sparky. :smack:

Teacher gets the day off and is EXPECTED to make the work back up.
 
Xaquin44

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NoName said:
your arguing in circles, the point was and still is Teacher gets the day off, they MAY do some work.

Average Joe gets the day off, they have to work or take vacation.
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If they're off then they should take vacation. If they work, then it isn't a day off.
 
kalmd

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BS Gal said:
Didn't they completely shut the schools and admin down over Xmas this year in St. Mary's to "save" energy? 10 days of vacation to save energy?
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I know that on professional days, they are now requiring everyone to vacate the building by 3:30 pm to save energy.
 
bohman

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pcjohnnyb said:
i don't understand this post...
Are you talking about ignoring malice or the reficul person? I think mAlice just doesn't beat around the bush for stuff...not like she is ALWAYS :)wink:) wrong..
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and this reficul fellow seems to have some valid points, albeit the sources aren't terrific :shrug:
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Ignoring mAlice. She's definitely not always wrong, but when somebody is always spoiling for a fight no matter what, it gets old.
 
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pcjohnnyb said:
yeah, but now i'm having a feeling that nobody can be this stupid and it is someone like gwydion just trying to pass time by being an azz :lol:
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Ain't me. I read this when there was only one page, labeled the OP a moron, and left.

Didn't even realize this dumb thread was up to 60 pages.
 
theArtistFormerlyKnownAs

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Gwydion said:
Ain't me. I read this when there was only one page, labeled the OP a moron, and left.

Didn't even realize this dumb thread was up to 60 pages.
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:lmao:

I see.



pcjohnnyb said:
:doh:
that bolded statement supports my side of the arguement, not your's twit :lol:
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Chopticon teacher on a... 02-05-2008 02:29 PM No you idiot it doesnt, it says they cant be docked, Business will say then you have to make up the time, when you enter the job market you'll find out

I see that I made a friend.

Been in the job market a few years now, and I already have a cushy desk job with awesome benefits :huggy:
 
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AndyMarquisLIVE said:
You've been proven wrong. Just admit it and go back to chasing ghosts.
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No i havent, the only thing you've proven is that other school districts handle things differently.

But the original post was about a Chopticon Teacher, St Mary's count. Your 3 snowdays and florida hurricanes have nothing to do with it.

Once again I never bashed Teachers, I never stated they were overpaid/underpaid, and i never said it was an easy job (even if Janitor boy claims otherwise):

Teachers get paid a fair wage (40k on average) - Average Joe employee Yes
Teachers get off all 10 Federal Holidays - Average Joe employee Yes
Teachers get a week Sick days- Average Joe employee Yes
In addition:
Teachers were off (and paid not using Vacation) extended time for Thanksgiving (off Wednesday Nov 21st return Monday the 26th) - Average Joe employee No
Teachers get off (and paid not using Vacation) all Smow days (as long as its not more than 5) - Average Joe employee No
Teachers get off (and paid not using Vacation) Christmas break (7 business days) - Average Joe employee No
Teachers get off (and paid not using Vacation) Spring break (6 business days) - Average Joe employee No
Teachers get off (and paid not using Vacation) Summer break (45 business days or 9 weeks) - Average Joe employee No
Teachers salary is based on 1425 hours work (but may work more) - Average Joe employee salary is based on 2080 hours work (but may work more).

Point out where i stated something wrong
 
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