So it could be said that you did back talk. An angry woman could then describe you with a little exageration as not being as special as her perfect children. Also remember your mother wasn't afraid of a nanny state social services popping in to remove you when she applied that discipline. She was also more than likely not concerned that the courts would hand you over to someone else based on a few nit picking complaints. Don't get me wrong, I would apply that same discipline and have. I just look over my back with much more concern than the average mother would have. I don't want this lady's comment that the father has concerns about this to be swept away like it doesn't exist. The nanny state and the courts bias does effect the freedom that a father should have to discipline to a much greater degree than it effects a mother. I would rather take my chances in court than let a child get out of control but the balance between prividing discipline and fighting the nanny state is my choice and not some crabby womans.
Dating and Spoiled Children
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So it could be said that you did back talk. An angry woman could then describe you with a little exageration as not being as special as her perfect children. Also remember your mother wasn't afraid of a nanny state social services popping in to remove you when she applied that discipline. She was also more than likely not concerned that the courts would hand you over to someone else based on a few nit picking complaints. Don't get me wrong, I would apply that same discipline and have. I just look over my back with much more concern than the average mother would have. I don't want this lady's comment that the father has concerns about this to be swept away like it doesn't exist. The nanny state and the courts bias does effect the freedom that a father should have to discipline to a much greater degree than it effects a mother. I would rather take my chances in court than let a child get out of control but the balance between prividing discipline and fighting the nanny state is my choice and not some crabby womans.
pixiegirl
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Or you're just a nasty control freak who would cut off her nose to spite her face opposed to admit that anyone else may in fact have a valid point. The point was that you were very involved in parenting decisions that had nothing to do with your house.
You can all the opinions you want of me.
pixiegirl
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bring the ky pool and lets get ready to rumble!
No need, I'm done with it. I long ago accepted Vrai's bi-polar opinion of me.
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sockgirl77
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I backtalked very little. Seriously, just a few times. I got slapped, never beaten. That's the difference.
That's the difference between what? That slap is a second degree assault. How many slaps makes a beating? Your mom broke the law. The big difference is the way the law is applied.
sockgirl77
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OMG. Go STFU.
Sorry, I shouldn't have dragged you or your mom into my example. Not really my point. The general point I am trying to make is still valid though. Fathers are starting to get some respect in the courts and for the ones that want to be involved with their children, they should get some. It's not fair to just think of fathers as only a source of money like Maryland has for years. It's also not fair to have double standards when it comes to custody and that's where the discipline double standard exists. I wanted to cut this guy some slack whether he deserves it or not.
sockgirl77
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This thread isn't about custody. It's about the fact that the father lets the child walk all over him.
Or you're just a nasty control freak who would cut off her nose to spite her face opposed to admit that anyone else may in fact have a valid point. The point was that you were very involved in parenting decisions that had nothing to do with your house.
You can all the opinions you want of me.
Pffft. I give you credit for a good point when you make one. You're just not making one with regard to this topic.
And yes, I was involved in parenting decisions - probably because I was the parent.
A slap hurts for a few minutes. A beating causes injury.
Smacking your kid isn't against the law. Beating them is.
She said the the father didn't want the child choosing to live with the mother over living with him. That is very much a custody issue. It was a minor point in the discussion but to me a very important one. That would never happen without the backing of a court if he insisted on having custody. It is a touchy subject for a father facing this in court. Not so much for a mother.
True and as it should be. However if you so much as touch another person and somebody wants to file a police report, you are technically able to be charged with second degree assault. Guilty or not gets to be decided after the legal expences are paid.
sockgirl77
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He doesn't have to smack the child to punish her.
Agreed. He should be doing better. I just want to make the point that real or imagined, a father does have concerns about keeping custody that a mother probably never has cross her mind. While I may have gone too far to make my point, I can say I have lived this and it is always in the back of your mind. I think I am doing a little better than this guy though but others may disagree.
pixiegirl
Cleopatra Jones
Pffft. I give you credit for a good point when you make one. You're just not making one with regard to this topic.
And yes, I was involved in parenting decisions - probably because I was the parent.
You are the step parent of Larry's kids and according to your own words you should have butt the heck out.
I made a fabulous point, step parents should have a say in certain situations. In your situation you had a say and knowing you I doubt you'd have had it any other way. It's not as black and white, one way or the other. Different situations call for different levels of involvement.
MOredB...you have absolutley no idea what you are talking about. Possiblya bitter divorce/custody battle in your past, eh?
There are no exagerations in what I have posted. Throwing things at your parents, screaming at them, and calling your mother a F*&%ing b%#$ch IS NOT 'normal teenage behavior'. If that is the behavior in your household, then God help your children as they become adults! This child needs structure and discipline, and she is not getting it consistently in either household. She is setting all of her own rules and her parents are too bent on being the most popular parent and 'winning out' over the other. Neither parenty wants to be the 'bad guy' and set rules of which she should abide. I'm not talking prison rules, but common courtesy and respect should be taught to every child. I would be mortified if my child spoke to me the way she does the both of them.
You are basiclally saying that the child should have no limits, and that they be allowed to 'dictate' which parent gets physical custody by manipulating the other parent with her horrendous behavior. Whoever gives the most and allows the most freedom wins her love. What a prize!
He adores my children and tells me ALL the time what a fantastic mother I am. He appreciates the respect that my children show me, but is afraid of losing his own daughter by enforcing rules and asking for her respect.
That is sad.
Right now, custody is shared. I do not think the wife woudl mind givinghim full physical custody as long as visitation was given, as no child support is involved. This is not a custody issue. It is that the girl KNOWS she can maniluplate her father and act as she does, becuase he woudl be devastated should she ever say "I want to live with Mom full time". When he tells her she is not allowed to do something (which is not often) all she has to do is say...I'm going to Moms.
The mom doesn't care too much when or what she does as long as she has her own partying time. Last week Dad told her she could not go somewhere with a friend, she merely shrugged her shoulders and went anyway. He said nothing.
Pure manipulation. And there is no exageration in all of the expensive items that have been lost and replaced. I was with him when he bought them, and with him when he replaced them. I do not think she is selling them, or even trading them. She just merely leaves them where ever and forgets about them. She doesn't have to be accountable for any of them, as she know it will all be replaced, no questions asked.
$350 ipod gone within a week after Christmas, never to be seen again. 4 cell phones, the most recent purchased just last week. And she has the nerve to tell him not to call her because he is bugging her.
Typical teenage behavior or spoiled child?