Dating and Spoiled Children

vraiblonde

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Dye Tied

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So the start of this thread was about a woman who had a boyfriend with a devil child. Everyone said he wouldn't do anything, the situation is bad, so you should leave him. Now it seems to be people saying the step-parent should butt out and allow the parents to do their own parenting, no matter what the situation or result.

To me it sounds like not many people are really advocating discussion or decisions here. Sure, some people told 4d and kvj to discuss stuff, but based on the following discussions it sounds more like the suggestion might be for 4d to tell kvj his plan and then kvj has to decide whether she's OK with that or if she isn't. There's no give and take, agreements, compromises, nothing! How is that healthy, regardless of the situation? Isn't marriage all about compromise? I'd think a healthy one is, but I wouldn't exactly call a bunch of marriages I've seen healthy.

Not everything is so cut and dry as a lot of you are making it seem. It's easy to just sit on a pedestal and tell people what's definitely right and definitely wrong, but I don't think there's really an answer until you experience the situation at hand. You can get as much advice as you want, but you won't know the answer until it happens and you know what's right by you.


Mr. Beta...I gave the OP an answer based on my recent life experience and that of others I have known, through my long life. Her original question was answered on her own, before this thread jumped the shark.
 
Mr. Beta...I gave the OP an answer based on my recent life experience and that of others I have known, through my long life. Her original question was answered on her own, before this thread jumped the shark.

Don't mind him Dye, he just like to listen to himself talk. :blahblah:
 

bohman

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She has had 4 cell phones since Christmas, wears the most expensive desinger clothes, doesn't take care of them, always "loses" them and they are immediately replaced. She has 'lost' a laptop, cell phone, digital camera and an ipod, all of which were given to her at Christmas.

She's probably giving stuff away to friends or selling it for her drug habit.

Sorry, but nobody just "loses" that amount of expensive stuff, even if they do know that daddy will buy them another one. Beta's right; I don't know what she bought with the money, or what she traded that stuff for, but it didn't just "get lost."

Run like hell. :jameo:
 

MoredB

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The man was described as caring. I think he needs to get away from her. Raising a child is hard enough without some trifling woman getting in the way!
 

vraiblonde

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can i get a recap? i couldnt get past the original post with all the nicknames

Pixie does that when she's cornered and knows she's wrong - picks out some random thread and tries to pretend it means something relevant to the topic. Typically, like this latest, it completely blows her argument out the window and makes her look like a fool. But you have to give her credit for trying.
 

Christy

b*tch rocket
The man was described as caring. I think he needs to get away from her. Raising a child is hard enough without some trifling woman getting in the way!

I'll second that. :yay:

I have zero desire or tolerance to have anyone piss and moan about my kids. If you don't like them or how I raise them GFY and DIAF. :shrug:
 

Bann

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However, at some point, she should be accountable for her own actions.

Someone can be raised in a total hell hole and still come out a decent person.


Oh, sure, 13 (14, 15, 16, 17, etc.) can be hell on wheels. (whee!) But he's the dad, she's the kid. She may well turn out fine later, but for now - she's spoiled rotten wicked and he's letting her rule the roost. It's a dangerous combination and just wait until she's 15. :yikes:
 

Bann

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Yeah, I kind of feel that way.

My kids are almost grown and on their own. I was kind of looking forward to living as an empty nester, or at the least, charing my life with a partner, and now there is a big chance that this child will be with us for a very long time to come. I love my kids very much but am looking forward to them starting life on their own, as adults.

I think he kind of depends on her emotionally and would NOT be as eager to kick the baby from the nest.

THe more I am writing about this, the more I am coming to grips with what needs to happen. Thank you all for your input! It's nice to know that I wasn't being unreasonable in the way that I was feeling.

Good luck to you in whatever you decide to do!
 

Beta84

They're out to get us
Mr. Beta...I gave the OP an answer based on my recent life experience and that of others I have known, through my long life. Her original question was answered on her own, before this thread jumped the shark.
oh you were giving good advice! but now I feel old cuz i don't think anyone has called me Mr. before :frown:

I bet he likes being called that.
it was different, that's for sure! :lol:

The man was described as caring. I think he needs to get away from her. Raising a child is hard enough without some trifling woman getting in the way!
:rolleyes:

Parents who let their kids do anything they want think they care, but they don't. They aren't caring AT ALL about the kind of person their kids are growing up to be, they don't care about their kids futures...they don't care about anything but the present. And this guy certainly doesn't care about anything else in his life that much, since he allows his daughter to ruin it all. I understand the concept of kid coming first, but this is taken to the extreme.
 

MoredB

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Read her post again compensating for her likely exagerations and she just described every 13 year old in the world. Differences in parenting styles will easily create friction. It is obvious that this woman is agitated and looking for reasons to make her mans life hell. She probably already succeeded there but just needed confirmation from us. Also, because of biases in the court system, men need to be much more careful than women when it comes to protecting access to their children. It doesn't mean that they should let the child run wild but custody goes away quickly when the child doesn't have a strong desire to be with you. If the shoe was on the other foot and the daughter thought daddy was a "flaming #####", the mom would only be at the courthouse a few minutes to get full custody. It doesn't work that way for the daddy's.
 
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Beta84

They're out to get us
Read her post again compensating for her likely exagerations and she just described every 13 year old in the world. Differences in parenting styles will easily create friction. It is obvious that this woman is agitated and looking for reasons to make her mans life hell. She probably already succeeded there but just needed confirmation from us. Also, because of biases in the court system, men need to be much more careful than women when it comes to protecting access to their children. It doesn't mean that they should let the child run wild but custody goes away quickly when the child doesn't have a strong desire to be with you. If the shoe was on the other foot and the daughter thought daddy was a "flaming #####", the mom would only be at the courthouse a few minutes to get full custody. It doesn't work that way for the daddy's.

Right, which is why I said in another post you can still spoil your kid without them being a complete #### and raise them the right way. The kid isn't going to turn down all the crap he's giving her if he says "stop losing it or I won't replace it again til next Christmas" or whatever. You can spoil a kid rotten and still have them actually behave and be a reasonable human being.

If the kid is so spoiled that they'd rather live with their apparent loser of a mother than deal with a few rules from daddy, then maybe that'd be a better lesson in life for them anyway. You're responsible for raising your child and this guy clearly isn't doing that.
 

sockgirl77

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Read her post again compensating for her likely exagerations and she just described every 13 year old in the world.
Not true. My mother would have smacked the crap out of me had I EVER back-talked or threw something at her. In fact, the very few times that I had the balls to back-talk her she did smack me senseless. And when I had the nerve to talk trash as I walked away, she smacked the crap out of the back of my head. So no, she's not every 13 year old in the world. She's this dude's spoiled little biatch of a 13 year old.
 

onebdzee

off the shelf
Not true. My mother would have smacked the crap out of me had I EVER back-talked or threw something at her. In fact, the very few times that I had the balls to back-talk her she did smack me senseless. And when I had the nerve to talk trash as I walked away, she smacked the crap out of the back of my head. So no, she's not every 13 year old in the world. She's this dude's spoiled little biatch of a 13 year old.

:yeahthat:

I also have to add that my girl(currently 16 on Sunday) has back talked me once in her life when she was about 10....I jacked her up on the wall about a foot, looked her in the eyes, and said "don't back talk me again"....she hasn't
 
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