What was the nature of your trip?
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It really doesn't matter does it? All people arriving from the airport to Budget rental were stuck in the same process. Go in, Check In at the front desk, go out wait in line for a care to be "assigned" to you. Get to front of second line and be asked Gas or EV.
If it were business, I might be able to make that business event, but let's play what I suspect is the reason for you question.
I would have been conducting business at Pike's Peak, the person before me or Budget didn't charge the vehicle to full. I made it to Pike's Peak fine. However, there were no chargers at Pike's Peak. No problem, I'll coast the 19 miles down, hope those bicylists stay the hell outta my way!
Did you ask them how much THEY would PAY YOU to take one of the EVs?
I made it to Pike's Peak fine. However, there were no chargers at Pike's Peak. No problem, I'll coast the 19 miles down, hope those bicylists stay the hell outta my way!
Unfortunately, those poor employees were being run ragged that you actually feel for them based on what our government has wrongfully meddled in.
After typing that other thoughts came to mind.
We pay for convienience, NOTHING the government implements offers any convienience. If you know of one let me know after 60 plus years I have yet to find one.
glhs837
Power with Control
Do you now long pursuits normally last? Not very long.
Not what I said. I said to vet the the poll/survey data sources and look for possible bias of the folks doing to information gathering. Always vet ALL data sources. Even your own experience. If you land at SEATAC and drive north through Seattle, you will get a far different perception of Washington State than if you head southeast towards Mount Rainer, or take the ferry over to Southworth and drive north.
Like the Trump poll issue, where he polls lower than he get votes for. The thought is that people are embarrassed to say they are voting for him, but will still vote for him. Or maybe the group polling just calls more liberals.
So, when I look at census data bout number of cars per household, I cannot see either a reason for anyone to lie about that on the forms, or the govt to massage that data. Tell what logic leads you to think that data is wrong.
P.S. Calling me a liberal doesnt do anything, you know. You seem to think that because I don't think the way you do about EVs, I must be liberal
I do look for EV rentals when I travel. But if there is not available charging like my recent trip to the Bremerton area (although there will be next year since a 12 port Supercharger was waiting final hook up a few weeks back) or I cant get one for the same price as the intermediate sedan I normally rent, then I wont get one.
Hertz did a horrible job on purchasing and rollout. And not allowing a return state of charge below a certain point without stupid penalties was a poor choice as well.
EDIT: I see it was Budget.
Nope, I know that you are a liberal because you act and speak like a liberal. I don't care if it does anything, what on earth makes you think that I do. Plenty of folks on this site call out liberals, in fact if you took a poll you would see this but you wouldn't acknowledge it unless the poll came out your way.Do you now long pursuits normally last? Not very long.
Not what I said. I said to vet the the poll/survey data sources and look for possible bias of the folks doing to information gathering. Always vet ALL data sources. Even your own experience. If you land at SEATAC and drive north through Seattle, you will get a far different perception of Washington State than if you head southeast towards Mount Rainer, or take the ferry over to Southworth and drive north.
Like the Trump poll issue, where he polls lower than he get votes for. The thought is that people are embarrassed to say they are voting for him, but will still vote for him. Or maybe the group polling just calls more liberals.
So, when I look at census data bout number of cars per household, I cannot see either a reason for anyone to lie about that on the forms, or the govt to massage that data. Tell what logic leads you to think that data is wrong.
P.S. Calling me a liberal doesnt do anything, you know. You seem to think that because I don't think the way you do about EVs, I must be liberal
I do look for EV rentals when I travel. But if there is not available charging like my recent trip to the Bremerton area (although there will be next year since a 12 port Supercharger was waiting final hook up a few weeks back) or I cant get one for the same price as the intermediate sedan I normally rent, then I wont get one.
Hertz did a horrible job on purchasing and rollout. And not allowing a return state of charge below a certain point without stupid penalties was a poor choice as well.
EDIT: I see it was Budget.
Like I've said before you are entertaining though, just like some of the other liberals that post here.
Just checking CO is a cool state like the Southwest part vs the northwest vs the eastern plains vs the foothills a lot of different parts make the whole. Guess I should have asked what part were you in, instead of the nature of the trip.It really doesn't matter does it? All people arriving from the airport to Budget rental were stuck in the same process. Go in, Check In at the front desk, go out wait in line for a care to be "assigned" to you. Get to front of second line and be asked Gas or EV.
If it were business, I might be able to make that business event, but let's play what I suspect is the reason for you question.
I would have been conducting business at Pike's Peak, the person before me or Budget didn't charge the vehicle to full. I made it to Pike's Peak fine. However, there were no chargers at Pike's Peak. No problem, I'll coast the 19 miles down, hope those bicylists stay the hell outta my way!
glhs837
Power with Control
Hmmm, well, since you know one thing that's wrong, who knows what else you know that's wrong. Me, I'm more of a libertarian than anything else, I suppose. Registered independent, almost vote R though as they are slightly better than the Ds.
Sorry your judgement is so poor. You should see someone about that.
My judgement is spot on, you can deny it if you want to, makes no difference to me cleopatra.Hmmm, well, since you know one thing that's wrong, who knows what else you know that's wrong. Me, I'm more of a libertarian than anything else, I suppose. Registered independent, almost vote R though as they are slightly better than the Ds.
Sorry your judgement is so poor. You should see someone about that.
We were in Denver. It is a very cool state. Some policies I prolly disagree on (Boulder) but seems to work for them and is really a beautiful town.
glhs837
Power with Control
Funny, because you meet the Reagan definition of a liberal. Its just that you know so much that isn't so
Say what you want you cannot hide it cleo.Funny, because you meet the Reagan definition of a liberal. Its just that you know so much that isn't so
glhs837
Power with Control
Maybe dont get your EV facts from this lady.
1. They work just fine in the cold, just ask the Norwegians.
2. They dont explode, and they catch fire at a rate far less than ICE vehicles. Although in places with real vehicle inspection standards that rate might be closer.
3. They do take a bit longer to get places. But especially at Euro trip distances, not enough to make up for the huge fuel cost differential. Remember, those poor buggers are paying $2 bucks a liter, or almost $8 a gallon.
4. Batteries car be recycled.
5. How much carbon you reduce, if you care about such things, depends on how you fuel them, or course. If you fuel them from dirtier sources than cars, yep, the math doesn't work. But if you use natural gas, renewables, or nuke, they do indeed reduce.
Gross electricity production in Germany
Tables on the subject: This table contains gross electricity production in Germany from 2019 to 2023.
Now, were the Germans idiots for taking thier nuke offline? Hell yes. And they should NOT had shut down coal plants unitl they had enough hard sources to cover the loss wihtout buying from Putin. But if they had kept the nuke going they would have been fine.
glhs837
Power with Control
Now, Norway is a smaller market, but I know @Gilligan had mentioned that on his trips, his son told him folks were not loving the EVs as much anymore. This says that maybe thats a more localized take out in the country?
electrek.co
There are now more electric cars than gas cars on Norway's roads
Norway is the world leader in EV sales, but now it's crossed a new landmark: the first country with more EVs than gas cars in service.
electrek.co
PeoplesElbow
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I'm interested in the European charging network.
fortune.com
As Tesla’s European sales plummet 36% in August, automakers warn EV market now on ‘continual downward trajectory’
The good news for Tesla is for once it didn't perform any worse than overall EV demand in Europe in August. The bad news is the market collapsed last month.
The Germans have had to restart their Coal Plants, and the Coal Mines
Germans were fat and happy on Russian Gas ....
Weak article all around...but does mention that diesel still rules. The entire country was shocked by a dramatic increase in the cost of electricity that occurred soon after the start of the Russian-Ukraine war. Almost overnight, people could not afford their home electric bill even without the addition of a charging station, something a lot of homes there have now.Now, Norway is a smaller market, but I know @Gilligan had mentioned that on his trips, his son told him folks were not loving the EVs as much anymore. This says that maybe thats a more localized take out in the country?
There are now more electric cars than gas cars on Norway's roads
Norway is the world leader in EV sales, but now it's crossed a new landmark: the first country with more EVs than gas cars in service.
The huge driver behind the popularity and sales of EVs in Norway was the fact that the government removed, for EVs, the stunning 100% tax that is imposed on new gasoline car purchases. That's a huge incentive.
Took my son a long time to sell his 3. The market for used EVs is in the terlit.