Gospel of Inclusion.

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
The truth will set us all free.

Hitler did not have a 1000 year empire.
:diva: The thousand year German Empire was Hitler's plan that failed with him.

Of course 2A avoids the whole question about Hitler burning (or not burning) but I want people to see that even Hitler gets saved link HERE.

Everybody gets saved.
2ndAmendment said:
Everyone can be saved, Jesus died for all, but not everyone will be saved because those that do not believe and do not accept lose out on the gift. At the judgment, everyone will believe for then they will see with their own eyes, but it will be too late for those that did not accept Jesus as Savior and Lord in this life by faith without seeing.
:popcorn: See this above is putting a human condition onto God's unconditional love, link again HERE.

There are no conditions when even our enemies get saved.
2ndAmendment said:
JPC, you are preaching a false gospel, a lie. If you lose the election, take it as a sign that you are wrong about this lie you are asking everyone to believe and change your ways.
:coffee: My election campaign has nothing to do with Biblical truths.

John the Baptist preached the truth and got his head cut off, then Jesus preached and got crucified.

Perhaps you might see those like Bush and Hoyer that won the worldly election as being thereby correct - but I say not.

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2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
:diva: The thousand year German Empire was Hitler's plan that failed with him.

Of course 2A avoids the whole question about Hitler burning (or not burning) but I want people to see that even Hitler gets saved link HERE.

Everybody gets saved.:popcorn: See this above is putting a human condition onto God's unconditional love, link again HERE.

There are no conditions when even our enemies get saved.:coffee: My election campaign has nothing to do with Biblical truths.

John the Baptist preached the truth and got his head cut off, then Jesus preached and got crucified.

Perhaps you might see those like Bush and Hoyer that won the worldly election as being thereby correct - but I say not.

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I won't state whether Hitler is in heaven or not. That is between God and Hitler.

Your election has everything to do with Biblical truth since you are the one that compared yourself to David. God is in control of all who come to power. If you win, it is because God wants you to and I will have to accept that you are preaching the truth. If you lose, then God does not want you in power and it may be because, as we all know from the Bible, you are preaching lies.

The concept that everyone gets saved is a lie.
 
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hvp05

Methodically disorganized
If you lose the election, take it as a sign that you are wrong about this lie you are asking everyone to believe and change your ways.
I told him that once a few months back...

... it didn't work. In fact, he never responded to my point at all.
JPC sr said:
I even believe in a God watching over me so that if I do lie then I reap what I sow - whatever that might be.
Jimmy, have you ever heard the parable of the man deserted on an island? Being intensely devout, he knew God would save him. So he waited. A boat arrived and he turned it down, saying God would come. A sea plane spots him and lands, and he turns it away saying God would come. Lastly, a helicopter comes his way and he turns it down for the same reason. Eventually the man dies from starvation, and when he meets God he disappointedly questions, "I waited for your help, why did you not come, Lord?" And God says, "I tried three times, and you turned away every attempt." (Or something like that...)

Now, you said, "if I do lie then I reap what I sow." You were injured multiple times at work many years ago. Then you became estranged from and despised by your family - blood and extended. Incarcerated multiple times. Dupuytren's contracture (from excessive alcohol). Living on public/government aid. One failed campaign for public office - and in the midst of another. And laughed at and mocked by most of the people that learn of your beliefs.

See now, your story is very different from that of the man on the island, but the ultimate point remains the same... God has put you in a downward spiral of failure. You are reaping what you have sown by being a complete failure and disgrace. Yet you persist in your beliefs, even in the desire to spread those beliefs via public office. Don't you see that God doesn't want that to happen? You continually scoff at the others here - even though they are the ones who would actually put you in office, but how can you scoff at the will of God? (Post.)
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
I told him that once a few months back...

... it didn't work. In fact, he never responded to my point at all.

And now JPC is suggesting that withholding information from the people by not telling the Washington Post reporter his whole platform is OK. Half truth is lie in my way of thinking, so JPC is suggesting that lying is OK. By golly, there isn't much difference between him and Hoyer ... if you leave out sanity.
 

hvp05

Methodically disorganized
JPC is suggesting that withholding information from the people by not telling the Washington Post reporter his whole platform is OK.
But he comes on the forum nearly daily to trumpet his failed views. Funny, eh? I think his slick aversion of certain issues is, in fact, an admission, inadvertent though it may be. He is finally realizing that virtually everyone sees him as a nutjob when he spouts venom against child support, the "greed growth", and numerous other things.

The problem is he thinks no one will notice if he just doesn't talk about more than one or two issues.
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
The truth will set us all free.

JPC sr said:
So my most valid point of this thread is that:

Everybody gets saved because Jesus paid the penalty for everyone.:yahoo:
LIE from the pits of hell!
:diva: The two (2) quotes above demonstrate one of the BIG contradictions of the Bible and yet it is only a contradiction between people and interpretations.

The first shows God as unconditional love and as a caring Father to mankind link HERE.

While the second quote is meant to frieghten people with threats of torture in Hell after death, which is not the way link HERE.

The word for "Hell" only meant the common grave or tomb of the dead bodies.

The false idea of a place of torture came from the Greek religion with Hades link HERE.

This is an important message that people need to know.

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2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
:diva: The two (2) quotes above demonstrate one of the BIG contradictions of the Bible and yet it is only a contradiction between people and interpretations.

The first shows God as unconditional love and as a caring Father to mankind link HERE.

While the second quote is meant to frieghten people with threats of torture in Hell after death, which is not the way link HERE.

The word for "Hell" only meant the common grave or tomb of the dead bodies.

The false idea of a place of torture came from the Greek religion with Hades link HERE.

This is an important message that people need to know.

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The only reason I post that what JPC has posted about this is a lie is becuse it is.

JPC and others that believe this false doctrine are looking for a free ride on their own terms. What is new for JPC? The person who is posting the lie should be evidence enough that what is being posted in suspect at best. But, in the chance that someone may come here and read what JPC posts and have some inkling that it is what the Bible states, I must point that what JPC posts is falsehoods.

It is absolutely true that Jesus died to provide the blood sacrifice necessary to save all people, but, as with all gifts, it comes with a requirement, you must actively, not passively, accept the gift through repentance, love of God, and showing love for God through the way you live your life.

JPC is teaching the doctrine of the Nicolaitans. The idea that we can do whatever we want, and not have to worry about incurring a rebuke from Jesus, is in line with the doctrine of the Nicolaitans. What did Jesus say of the deeds of the Nicolaitans?
Revelation 2:6'Yet this you do have, that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.
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Revelation 2:14-16

14'But I have a few things against you, because you have there some who hold the teaching of Balaam, who kept teaching Balak to put a stumbling block before the sons of Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols and to commit acts of immorality.

15'So you also have some who in the same way hold the teaching of the Nicolaitans.

16'Therefore repent; or else I am coming to you quickly, and I will make war against them with the sword of My mouth.
I think I remember JPC says that he didn't agree with the book of Revelation. No wonder that someone who preaches and seems to live the doctrine of the Nicolaitans would not like the scripture where Jesus declares He hates the deeds of the Nicolaitans.

Do not be deceived by the false doctrine JPC is proclaiming.
 

camily

Peace
The gospel of inclusion preaches a reconstructed, therapeutic Jesus, who accepts us exactly as we are. Traditional Christianity, however, holds that Jesus calls us to repentance of sins, and to transformation through a new life lived in accordance with God's will.

The gospel of inclusion has little place for repentance or transformation. Thus, it has little place for the central feature of Christianity: Christ's Cross, which brings redemption through suffering. This new gospel may be appealing, for it permits its adherents to "divinize" their own, largely secular agenda. But in a Christian church, it cannot easily coexist with the Gospel of Christ.
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From gotquestions.org
What is the gospel of inclusion?

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Question: "What is the gospel of inclusion?"

Answer: The gospel of inclusion is simply the old heresy of universalism re-packaged and given a new name. Universalism is the belief that all people will eventually be saved and go to heaven. The gospel of inclusion, as taught by Carlton Pearson, encompasses these false beliefs:

(1) The gospel of inclusion espouses that the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ paid the price for all of humanity to enjoy eternal life in heaven without any need for repentance.

(2) The gospel of inclusion teaches that salvation is unconditional and does not even require faith in Jesus Christ as the payment for mankind’s sin debt.

(3) The gospel of inclusion believes that all humanity is destined to life in heaven whether or not they realize it.

(4) The gospel of inclusion declares that all humanity will go to heaven regardless of religious affiliation.

(5) Lastly, the gospel of inclusion holds that only those who intentionally and consciously reject the grace of God—after having “tasted the fruit” of His grace—will spend eternity separated from God.

The gospel of inclusion runs counter to the clear teachings of Jesus and the Bible. In John’s gospel, Jesus clearly states that the only path to salvation is through Him (John 14:6). God sent Jesus into the world to secure salvation for a fallen humanity, but that salvation is only available to those who place their faith in Jesus Christ as God’s payment for their sin (John 3:16). The apostles echo this message (Ephesians 2:8; 1 Peter 1:8-9; 1 John 5:13). Faith in Jesus Christ means no longer trying to secure salvation based on works, but rather trusting that what Jesus did was sufficient to secure salvation.

In conjunction with faith is repentance. The two go hand-in-hand. Repentance is a change of mind about your sin and need for salvation through Christ by faith (Acts 2:38). The act of repentance is one in which we acknowledge that before God we’re sinners incapable of earning our way to salvation, so we repent (the Greek word for “repent” literally means “to change your mind”) of our sins—we turn away from them—and seek Christ by faith.

Jesus offers the gospel of salvation to everyone who is willing to repent and believe (John 3:16). However, Jesus Himself said that not everyone will believe (Matthew 7:13-14; John 3:19). No one likes to think that a loving and gracious God would send people to hell, but that is exactly what the Bible teaches. In the clearest teaching Jesus gave regarding the final judgment, He says that at the end the Son of Man will separate all the nations as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. The sheep (representing those who through faith in Jesus Christ have salvation secured) will go into the kingdom with Jesus. The goats (representing those who have rejected the salvation that Jesus offers) will go into hell, which is described as eternal fire (Matthew 25:31-46).

This teaching offends many, so instead of conforming their thinking to the clear teaching of the word of God, they change what God’s word says on the matter and spread this false teaching to the masses. The gospel of inclusion is a clear example of this.

Here are some additional arguments against the gospel of inclusion:

(1) If faith and repentance are not required to receive the gift of salvation, then why is the New Testament littered with calls to repent and place your faith in Jesus Christ?

(2) If salvation doesn’t require faith in the finished work of Christ on the cross, then why did Jesus submit to such a humiliating and excruciatingly painful death? God could have just granted everyone a “divine pardon.”

(3) If everyone is going to go to heaven whether they realize it or not, then what about free will? Is the hard-core atheist who has spent his life rejecting God, the Bible, Jesus, and Christianity going to be dragged into heaven kicking and screaming against his will? To believe this tenet of the gospel of inclusion seems to indicate that heaven will be filled with people who don’t necessarily want to be there.

(4) How can all people go to heaven regardless of religious affiliation if there are many religions which hold to contradictory claims? For example, what about people who believe completely different things about the after-life such as reincarnation or annihilationism (i.e., the idea that at death we are snuffed out of existence)?

(5) Finally, if those who openly reject the grace of God don’t go to heaven, then it’s hardly a gospel of inclusion, is it? Either all people go to heaven, or do not call it the gospel of inclusion; because it still excludes some.

The apostle Paul called the message of the gospel the “fragrance of death” (2 Corinthians 2:16). What he meant by this is that to many the message of the gospel is offensive. It tells people the truth about their sin and hopeless state without Christ. It tells people that there is nothing they can do to bridge the gap between themselves and God. For centuries, there have been those (many with good intentions) who have attempted to soften the message of the gospel to get more people into church. On the surface, that seems like the wise thing to do, but in the end all it does is give people a false sense of security. It was the apostle Paul who said that anyone who preached a different gospel than the one he preached should be cursed (Galatians 1:8). That is strong language, but once you realize how vitally important the message of the gospel is, you also realize how vitally important it is to get it right. A false gospel doesn’t save anyone. All it does is condemn more people to hell and generate greater condemnation for those who purvey such falsehoods - such as the gospel of inclusion.
 

hvp05

Methodically disorganized
The gospel of inclusion is simply the old heresy of universalism re-packaged and given a new name.
That was great. :yay:

But, as he said a couple days back:
Well speaking practically and politically then too much info just confuses people.
So all of that will, no doubt, bounce right off.
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
The truth will set us all free.

:flowers: Camily - you are one of my favorite posters on this board,

and you have the hotest avatar of them all.

The Bishop Carlton Pearson only has similar beliefs of my own as I go much farther and deeper into the truths of the scriptures then he.

I would never serve a tyrant God that tortures his enemies link HERE and so I do not.

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This_person

Well-Known Member
The Bishop Carlton Pearson only has similar beliefs of my own as I go much farther and deeper into the truths of the scriptures then he.:shortbus:
Where do you find the time?

Oh yeah, you dishonestly and dishonorably live off of the government (me and the rest of the taxpayers), and you needn't worry about being there for your family, so what else do you have to do?

BTW, before you ask, yes I do have an opinion on your "beliefs" here, but they've been so thoroughly refuted that it would be pointless to add any more to the pile stacked against you.
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
The truth will set us all free.

So you choose to serve a god (Notice lower case g, because your god is not the God of the Bible) of your own making.
:buddies: The command to love thy enemies link HERE is not one of my ideas.

I use to agree with Christians to burn the sinners in Hell but I was shown to be wrong and that we are to hate the sin but not the sinners.

The whole point of the cross was to take away the penalty for sinning.

Jesus paid the price in full - for everybody, and I did not make that up.

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~mellabella~

New Member
I can't believe I'm back on this thread.

JPC,

No, you didn't make that part up. BUT. Do you really believe you should be saved when you have done nothing to deserve God's forgiveness? Us humans will never reach perfection here on this earth. However, that does not give us license to live like the devil during the week and then suddenly turn holy on Sunday. God doesn't work that way. You need a personal relationship with Him, and its something that we as Christians have to work at everyday. Pleasing him. Its not something we can use only when convienent-ie, your so called Gospel of Inclusion. Don't use God as your corner 7-11. Show some respect for His word, and stop slandering Him by calling him unmerciful.
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
The truth will set us all free.

JPC,

Do you really believe you should be saved when you have done nothing to deserve God's forgiveness?
:buddies: It is called un-conditional love.
~mellabella~ said:
Show some respect for His word, and stop slandering Him by calling him unmerciful.
:diva: Fact is that I am the one calling God very VERY merciful indeed.

It is others that declare God and Jesus as being unmerciful to sinners.

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JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
The truth will set us all free.

JPC sr said:
:buddies: It is others that declare God and Jesus as being unmerciful to sinners.

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:diva: Anyone that preaches people being tortured in Hell is saying God and Jesus lack mercy.

Link one HERE.

Link two HERE.

It can not be sustained to claim that burning people in Hell is some how merciful because it is not.

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~mellabella~

New Member
"He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him." (John 3:36)

:snacks:

..."For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast." (Ephesians 2:8,9)
 
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JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
The truth will set us all free.

"He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him." (John 3:36)

:snacks:
:diva: It is okay by me if you continue to hold onto that belief of Hell,

but I made the thread for anyone that wants more.

That text you give link HERE says that those who believe "has everlasting life" and so how can one burn in Hell unless those that do not believe had everlasting life too?

That contradiction does not add up.

The fact is that those that believe now receive great blessings now in this life, but on Judgement Day then everyone will be believers because then everyone will bow and confess.

The Hell concept says everyone already has eternal life in Heaven or in Hell, but that text of yours says only believers have eternal life and non believers do not.

The contradiction is in the untruth that some how God would let anyone slip through without being saved.

God does not even allow for one lost sheep - not even one.
~mellabella~ said:
..."For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast." (Ephesians 2:8,9)
:diva: That means people do nothing to earn it - saved is a "gift" and not a choice.

Those that chose it are "boasting" here now that they chose God by there work of choosing and it is wrong link HERE.

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