JPC sr
James P. Cusick Sr.
The truth will set us all free.
I understand you,
but I see your opinions are filthy and sinful.
I understand you, but I see your opinions are filthy and sinful.
Gospel of Inclusion.
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This_person
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No, I don't think that you do
What is filthy or sinful about recognizing that the one who takes an oath is the one responsible for fullfilling that oath?
I'll even give you kudos for Hillary sticking by Bill time after time after time after time of his infidelities. She did not get divorced.
But, what does that have to do with it being Bill who is the one who swore in front of God, family, friends, and on a document that he wouldn't perform those infidelities, and thus it is Bill who was in the wrong?
JPC sr
James P. Cusick Sr.
The truth will set us all free.
My point was, and still is,
that:
Divorce is never a reward,
and divorce is never a victory.
Divorce is always a hostile action,
and divorce is always a mark of a failure.
Therefore trying to minimize the divorces and trying to save marriages is the thing that society needs.
My point was, and still is,that:
Divorce is never a reward,
and divorce is never a victory.
Divorce is always a hostile action,
and divorce is always a mark of a failure.
Therefore trying to minimize the divorces and trying to save marriages is the thing that society needs.
This_person
Well-Known Member
Except to the victim of abuse, I agree
Except to the victim of abuse, I agree
Except to the victim of abuse, or when two adults can achieve some level of mature parting of ways, it usually is
Here, you're just plain wrong. When the wronged party finally chooses self worth over a cheating spouse, or an abusive spouse, after long and repeated attempts at making the marriage work, it is not a failure to that person. It may be a failure of the marriage, and it may mark the abusive, cheating, or otherwise despicable spouse, but not both spouses.
Society, yes. I agree. Through laws, absolutely not. You repeatedly state that the government should get out of the way of what the people in the family want and need, and in this case you are right. Keep the government out of marriages - especially trying to keep failed marriages together.
~mellabella~
New Member
Divorce is presented like some kind of reward for the spouse that got cheated on.
What I did say was that granting a divorce is NOT a victory and it is a nasty reward too.
that:
Divorce is never a reward,
uh, contradicting yourself hon.
godsbutterfly
Free to Fly
You keep repeating this same childish nonsense so you must think it is clever or some thing.
I do not see where you have any superiority in that regard.The BIG point of me refering to the Clinton issue is because from then till now it is Hillary that has profitted from the feasco because Hillary knew what really mattered and Hillary did the right thing, and now it is Hillary that could be the first female President of the USA and many of us morally conscious persons say it is because Hillary was strongest when she defended her marriage and Hillary protected her family from the outside adulterous woman.
If Hillary had been nieve enough to believe that divorce garbage then she would have failed and her family destroyed and surely she would be in no position to run for election if the populace had seen Monica taking Hillary down.
I am saying to look and see the big example of power in virtue done by Hillary Clinton by rejecting divorce.
Believe thy eyes instead of thy filthy opinion.
Hillary Clinton was also standing under a very public spotlight in the middle of a political arena at that time. How humiliating for her to have been seen crying or screaming at her lecherous unfaithful husband for the pain he had caused her. She had no option but to hold her head up and "stand by her man". I am in favor of saving a marriage whenever it is possible and I endured a lot to try and salvage my own, but the one who breaks the vows is most undeniably not blameless. If they have no remorse the marriage has no hope of surviving and they will do it again as I found out all too well. If there is no accountability then it depends on the person's morals and conscience and if they didn't care enough to not cheat the first time they'll care even less the second or third time.
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JPC sr
James P. Cusick Sr.
The truth will set us all free.
This is enough for me.
Believe as you choose and it is only an ideal of mine but not my agenda.
I am going to try to get back to the thread subject and that works for me.
This is enough for me.Believe as you choose and it is only an ideal of mine but not my agenda.
I am going to try to get back to the thread subject and that works for me.
JPC sr
James P. Cusick Sr.
The truth will set us all free.
Yes, I was divorced,
and I lived long enough to regret it. Cheers.
Yes, I was divorced,and I lived long enough to regret it. Cheers.
This_person
Well-Known Member
That makes one of you.....
But, you still didn't answer my questions (again):
What is filthy or sinful about recognizing that the one who takes an oath is the one responsible for fullfilling that oath?
I'll even give you kudos for Hillary sticking by Bill time after time after time after time of his infidelities. She did not get divorced.
But, what does that have to do with it being Bill who is the one who swore in front of God, family, friends, and on a document that he wouldn't perform those infidelities, and thus it is Bill who was in the wrong?
~mellabella~
New Member
and I lived long enough to regret it. Cheers.
wow. that sounded like remorse.
chimo!
Xaquin44
New Member
wow. that sounded like remorse.
chimo!
I'll give you one guess why she wanted to get away.
JPC sr
James P. Cusick Sr.
The truth will set us all free.
Yes, I have lots of regrets and remorse.
I have had a hard life.
wow. that sounded like remorse.
chimo!
Yes, I have lots of regrets and remorse.I have had a hard life.
~mellabella~
New Member
I have had a hard life.
self inflicted? or a share of you and others making it hard?
This_person
Well-Known Member
He doesn't actually feel any remorse. He said so here:
It was her own fault for getting the "prize" of their son that she suffered so much. If she had not wanted a life of poverty and being the only one responsible to their son, she should have given Junior up to Jimmy Sr.
That's always been his attitude. Any time he feigns remorse it's to get sympathy (the kind he did not give when he deserted his family).
godsbutterfly
Free to Fly
I was kinda reading that as not mourning her death because of being too grateful to her for giving them a son? I'm not in the right ballpark? Where is Jimmy Jr. anyway?
JPC sr
James P. Cusick Sr.
The truth will set us all free.
Its not all one sided.
At first it was my birth and upbringing,
then it was me and my faults,
then my screw ups again,
but then there were others that inflicted hardships.
And it still continues.
Its not all one sided.At first it was my birth and upbringing,
then it was me and my faults,
then my screw ups again,
but then there were others that inflicted hardships.
And it still continues.
JPC sr
James P. Cusick Sr.
The truth will set us all free.
Well are not you a winner?
You accepting T_p as talking for me, and expect him to speak for my son.
No wonder there is no communicating with this kind of crud.
He does not speak for me or for anyone else but his own trashy opinions made by himself.
Well are not you a winner?You accepting T_p as talking for me, and expect him to speak for my son.
No wonder there is no communicating with this kind of crud.
He does not speak for me or for anyone else but his own trashy opinions made by himself.
This_person
Well-Known Member
If he did not feel sorry "for" (instead of sorry "to" her), I would agree. But, the context of the conversation was such that he was not sorry for the pain and suffering he had caused the family he "deserted" to "figure it out for themselves" (his words, not mine), because they had all they needed with him providing nothing. In his view, as long as there are other family members, welfare programs, etc, the separated parent need not provide anything, because all is taken care of for the families. He has repeatedly said there is no such thing as a needy or hungry child unless the custodial parent only is at fault.
I couldn't put the whole context of the statement in, but as a long time arguer with Jimmy, I can honestly tell you it was there.
Junior is a grown man, with child that he recently was taken to court for not supporting. Dear ol' dad tried to get him to do the same thing he did, fight the support by going to jail. The kid is more interested in drugs, drinking, and gambling than he is in meeting Bubba in the shower, so he chose (after every legal maneuver he could muster against doing this) to finally pay a little something for his child. Didn't take dear ol' daddy's advice. Sweet family, huh?
This_person
Well-Known Member
You've spoken for your son enough - wasn't even sure the woman he slept with was faithful enough to be bearing HIS child, so he had to get a paternity test. When that showed him the father, he still couldn't pay for his kid until threatened with jail. Meanwhile, several DUI's. This from YOUR keyboard. Imagine what someone who DOESN'T like him would say
