I give up, why do people behave this way?

nutz

Well-Known Member
Are you honestly trying to say that property values in and around SMC have not skyrocketed since NAVAIR moved down here? Seriously?

And.. in contrast to what you mentioned above, I know SEVERAL people whose home values are at least double what they paid for them. Personally, my value was just appraised at 175% of what I paid. Agree to disagree I suppose.

And imagine how "built up" this county would truly be if the county didn't half-azz it's construction and road expansion projects!
:lmao::lmao:
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
Are you honestly trying to say that property values in and around SMC have not skyrocketed since NAVAIR moved down here? Seriously?

Don't know. I moved into my CURRENT neighborhood after 9/11. My prior residence was before NAVAIR, but it was in Calvert. That one made money,
but it was also a tiny thousand square foot home.

But you can go on Zillow and easily see that in my neighborhood, property values have barely kept pace with inflation in the past twenty years.
The houses here are 30-40 years old, and absolutely everyone I know who has moved out has lost money. You try to sell a 40 year old home that's over 3-4 thousand square feet - and builders have built other developments nearby with NEW homes of comparable size - yeah, you'll lose. They did not exist when I moved in - people moving IN created the demand for them.

So it's actually fair to conclude that move-ins contributed to the LOSS of equity.

Yes. Seriously.
 

black dog

Free America
Calvert co is country........ Thats some funny crap right there..... If you live within 15-20 minutes from a Walmart... It ain't country..
 

NextJen

Raisin cane
I walked outside and striked up a convo with some random neighbor who I don't know. I talked about the work I was doing, shoot the crap and he didn't give a crap about who I was, the paint on my hands or the dirty clothes I was wearing. Very "down-to-earth" people.....

Good morning.
When I said, 'Howdy neighbor' in my previous post, I was serious. I do believe that we are indeed neighbors.

I am not sure, besides the one couple who you mentioned in our neighborhood who has retired and moved away, who you have had interaction with. I do believe that you and I have spoken briefly a time or two, and you spoke to my fiance once about the cable/internet line (if indeed you are who I think you are). I used to speak with your wife when she would go up to the bus stop to get the kids. You have a lovely family.

For the record, I have been where I am for 11 years and I love our little neighborhood. Several neighbors that I have had interaction with on occasions are all super nice folks. I have never caught any kind of attitude from any of them, they all have been very welcoming, and several of them came by and offered their condolences and any help I may need when my fiance passed away. Some of my close-by neighbors also keep an eye out for me and my family. It is everything I would hope for in a neighborhood.

Feel free to stop by and shoot the breeze and have a beer some time.
Jenn
 

RoseRed

American Beauty
PREMO Member
Don't know. I moved into my CURRENT neighborhood after 9/11. My prior residence was before NAVAIR, but it was in Calvert. That one made money,
but it was also a tiny thousand square foot home.

But you can go on Zillow and easily see that in my neighborhood, property values have barely kept pace with inflation in the past twenty years.
The houses here are 30-40 years old, and absolutely everyone I know who has moved out has lost money. You try to sell a 40 year old home that's over 3-4 thousand square feet - and builders have built other developments nearby with NEW homes of comparable size - yeah, you'll lose. They did not exist when I moved in - people moving IN created the demand for them.

So it's actually fair to conclude that move-ins contributed to the LOSS of equity.

Yes. Seriously.
We live around the corner from each other. I've been in my house for 12 years and it has lost some value, but not a terrible amount. Mine is also much older than yours, but I also have 2 acres and not in a neighborhood. I also bought due to the schools and be in the town I wanted to be in. I don't see me selling anytime soon. When that happens, I'll be moving away.
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
We live around the corner from each other. I've been in my house for 12 years and it has lost some value, but not a terrible amount. Mine is also much older than yours, but I also have 2 acres and not in a neighborhood. I also bought due to the schools and be in the town I wanted to be in. I don't see me selling anytime soon. When that happens, I'll be moving away.

Actually, you're the only forumite I know who still lives near me. But - you also get it. And you know that 'increase in home equity' is not only NOT an incentive to remain - because it doesn't exist for us - there are certainly lots of other reasons to stay, even while being disappointed by the slow buildup.

I'm not hostile to "move-ins". Nor is my wife's family and they've been here fifty years - my wife, nearly her whole life. But they have not benefited me in any way I can see. I don't work on base or in any field supported by or otherwise enhanced by the base, and I had it BEFORE NAVAIR arrived.

I am hostile however, to people who come in and blast everyone for not being the way they want them to be.
 

RoseRed

American Beauty
PREMO Member
Actually, you're the only forumite I know who still lives near me. But - you also get it. And you know that 'increase in home equity' is not only NOT an incentive to remain - because it doesn't exist for us - there are certainly lots of other reasons to stay, even while being disappointed by the slow buildup.

I'm not hostile to "move-ins". Nor is my wife's family and they've been here fifty years - my wife, nearly her whole life. But they have not benefited me in any way I can see. I don't work on base or in any field supported by or otherwise enhanced by the base, and I had it BEFORE NAVAIR arrived.

I am hostile however, to people who come in and blast everyone for not being the way they want them to be.
Yup. I get it. I once met a couple who live with their son in the newish development on the corner. She told me they live in "The Estates". It was pretty hard to stifle my snickers. No lady, you live in a neighborhood where the houses are all stacked on top of each other on an old farm field. :lol:

I also want to mention, I haven't heard nasty comments from the locals that I am friends with about newbies, but then again, I've been told by them that I'm not an *******. I've been here since 1990.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
I also want to mention, I haven't heard nasty comments from the locals that I am friends with about newbies, but then again, I've been told by them that I'm not an ***. I've been here since 1990.

My family connections were to Calvert and Anne Arundel...two landings in the 1650s; one near where the Naval Academy is now and the other near Dunkirk. (Ferry road used to be Gover's Ferry rd...the family I'm descended from). So regardless of how long I've lived in St. Mary's, I "ain't from around here". LOL. But I've fit in well enough, I guess...no complaints I can think of.
 

MiddleGround

Well-Known Member
I don't work on base or in any field supported by or otherwise enhanced by the base, and I had it BEFORE NAVAIR arrived.

You might be surprised what effects a departing NAVAIR would have on this area. Even if you do not think you are involved. I am also in the same situation as you regarding my ties to PAX however, I would hate to see how this county (especially the southern end) would fare if they were to relocate. It would get very bad, very fast.
 

black dog

Free America
Ummm, I’m guessing you quoted the wrong post...or posted the wrong something.

Nope, I quoted the net post after mine... I suggest that if you dont want this to happen use the "Reply"....
Then everyone will know who you are posting about..
 

SugarBear47

Active Member
The "in-group" mentality in this post is interesting.

The entitled thing comes from people who grew up here all their lives, therefore they feel they have the highest weight to make local decisions. You put that against someone who's been here 9 years, and they look at you as an expat. It's a high wall to climb.

I used the Annapolis woman as an example, and I see the fact that I specified her location made people attack her on that basis. But I've heard similar things from people that came from other parts of MD to live here. One said it seems like people here "live under a rock". When I first moved (year one), we were invited by one of our neighbors to a "get together". The conversation was good, however when we were asked "Where we were from" and we responded with Baltimore, the reply was a snarly "Oh you're from there". We never had much conversation with the neighbors as both of them moved from that area due to retirement.
I'm not sure I know what you mean by the "in group". I first came here in 1956. Moved away (military) in 70, came back in 95 as I knew I always would. I have ancestor's from St. Mary's City and Solomon's. Old family history in these two counties. But I stick with the passive behavior of most locals old and young. It's like it is learned.
 
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