I give up, why do people behave this way?

[SamSpade]

My problem is with all the "These damn non-lifetime SOMD'ers are ruining everything good about MY town!" kind of people.

I don't get THAT from people because they're upset that they EXIST - they're concerned that people move in and CHANGE the place to be something more like the more urban place from whence they CAME. They don't want their rural home to be turned into Waldorf.

And I agree.

 

[mdff21]

You mean the existing group that complain about the Master Plan and Comprehensive plan because it's making Calvert less country? LOL
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When you say existing group, who specifically are you referring to? There once was a saying "Keep Calvert Country", I agree that some changes should be made but we don't need to go wild. You posted another reply about the old K-Mart being renovated and bringing 6 new stores into that shopping center. When was the last time you went through that center. Currently there are 6 vacant stores not counting the old K-Mart in Fox Run. Ride through any of the shopping centers and count the vacant stores. Let's fill those up before we build more. There is more development going on along the PF Blvd. You have Chapline, and a new apartment complex next to it. There are getting ready to start Calvert Hills which is between Chapline and West Dares Beach Road. Another traffic circle will be going in between Chapline and West Dares Beach Road. There is enough congestion in the PF area now and we are adding more residences most with 2 cars. I have lived in Calvert all of my life and shudder at what I am seeing and where the county is heading. Yes property value has increased, so has property taxes. You want all the amenities of the big city, well that will come with a cost and the tax payers will pay with the increase. You talk about B'more, it has a higher murder rate per capita than any other city. Almost one a day last year. If you do not like the way things are done here in Calvert, you can do what you did when you came to Calvert, MOVE!!

 

[Blister]

I do believe you mean unless you were of the Yaocomico tribe.

Even they came from somewhere else.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Even they came from somewhere else.

But I don't think there was anyone else here before them.

 

[Grumpy]

Anyway, be nice.

Wow..David piling on..

 

[Blister]

But I don't think there was anyone else here before them.

Pre-European settlement tribes and artifacts
Paleo-Indians

Paleo-Indians were the first inhabitants of the Chesapeake Bay region. Archeologists recognize the Paleo-Indian culture by a stone tool called the Clovis point: an elongated, fluted spearhead.

When Paleo-Indians lived, the region’s climate was much colder than it is now. Paleo-Indians spent their days roaming the area’s coniferous forests. They probably hunted large animals such as mammoths and mastodons for food.


Yaocomico


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Yaocomico

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The Founding of Maryland (1634) depicts colonists meeting the people of the Yaocomico branch of the Piscataway Indian Nation in St. Mary's City, Maryland, the site of Maryland's first colonial settlement.
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Maryland, north of Potomac River
Eastern Algonquian, historical
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Piscataway

The Yaocomico, or Yaocomaco, were an Algonquian-speaking Native American group who lived along the north bank of the Potomac River near its confluence with the Chesapeake Bay in the 17th century. They were related to the Piscataway, the dominant nation north of the Potomac.
The settlers who arrived to found the English colony of Maryland purchased land for their first settlement from the Yaocomico. By the late-17th century, the tribe had disappeared from the historical record. Historians believe this was mostly due to epidemics of newly introduced infectious disease and to pressure from European settlers and other Native groups.

The Yaocomico were here when the Europeans arrived, but they were far from the original occupants. Every nation eventually gets there ass kicked by an invader and assimilated or moved out.

 

[NextJen]

Their behavior seems........overly nice sometimes.

Howdy neighbor!

 

[MiddleGround]

I don't get THAT from people because they're upset that they EXIST - they're concerned that people move in and CHANGE the place to be something more like the more urban place from whence they CAME. They don't want their rural home to be turned into Waldorf.

And I agree.

Right! Because I NEVER see a Raley, Thompson, Calvert, etc. in the news for making the area a sh!thole.

 

[PrchJrkr]

Pre-European settlement tribes and artifacts
Paleo-Indians

Paleo-Indians were the first inhabitants of the Chesapeake Bay region. Archeologists recognize the Paleo-Indian culture by a stone tool called the Clovis point: an elongated, fluted spearhead.

When Paleo-Indians lived, the region’s climate was much colder than it is now. Paleo-Indians spent their days roaming the area’s coniferous forests. They probably hunted large animals such as mammoths and mastodons for food.

Have had many spear points and arrow heads over the years, most coming from the shores of the Wicomico River. I never explored their history. Thanks for posting this. I have the whole morning to learn something new about that box of rocks in my closet.

 

[SamSpade]

Right! Because I NEVER see a Raley, Thompson, Calvert, etc. in the news for making the area a sh!thole.

I've lived in this area 25 years now - I still have no idea what this post is supposed to mean.

 

[frequentflier]

Have had many spear points and arrow heads over the years, most coming from the shores of the Wicomico River. I never explored their history. Thanks for posting this. I have the whole morning to learn something new about that box of rocks in my closet.

Maybe they aren't dumb after all!

 

[MiddleGround]

I've lived in this area 25 years now - I still have no idea what this post is supposed to mean.

Sorry.. my mistake. I thought you were referring to locals thinking it was the 'outsiders' that are bringing crime. Now that I re-read your reply, I understand what you were getting at.

My original point still stands. All the locals don't want the 'new' people crowding up their beloved area HOWEVER, they are still more than happy to keep that fat equity in their properties and I don't see anyone turning down jobs to work on the Navy base either (which is what is fueling the growth and wealth in the area)

 

[steppinthrax]

I think we are talking about two different things here...

I don't have a problem with the way people act or how nice they are. I think they are very nice and the area is great for family living. My problem is with all the "These damn non-lifetime SOMD'ers are ruining everything good about MY town!" kind of people.

I don't have an issue either with the area in terms of raising a family. I mentioned it was a hypocritical to have animosity to people who as you said "These damn non-lifetime SOMD'ers are ruining everything good about MY town!", but benefit from those very same people that you hate.

 

[SamSpade]

My original point still stands. All the locals don't want the 'new' people crowding up their beloved area HOWEVER, they are still more than happy to keep that fat equity in their properties

I wish I could show you how MY property has not at all benefited from any increase in equity - nor my in-laws who are currently selling THEIR house - nor my last three neighbors who moved away with absolutely all of them taking losses. (Since most of these were older houses - I'd have to say the loss in equity is almost precisely due to newcomers arriving and new houses built to accommodate them, but that's just me).

Even were that true - and it may be, but not in the experience of anyone I've known in the last 15 years - I hardly see how home equity is the major reason why people do or don't pull up roots, get another job and go elsewhere. I miss the St Mary's County that didn't see constant building and new developments. I'm not thrilled by the huge development up and down 235, and I wouldn't be in favor of MORE of it just north of Sotterley.

Probably the BIGGEST reason I don't move is the LOSS of equity. My house is barely worth more than it was when I bought it. Another is - my kids go to school here - I don't want to interrupt their school and friendships because I want another house. I grew up without that, and I want my children to have that. If I WERE fed up with overbuilding - where the hell would I go? I am pretty much just waiting for retirement. I don't like the building up of my county - but there's nothing I can do about it.

 

[steppinthrax]

Baltimore is a S****HOLE that is why you left ! You couldn't cut it there so you moved out to the country. I moved here because I spent the summers here playing on the Bay, never wanted to live anywhere else. Plenty of nice places to visit in the world besides Baltimore , Haiti comes to mind.

I have rental property in Baltimore. I spent over a month renovating one of my properties and I miss the simple convenience that you have there. For example Nat gas, trash service and water/sewage comes standard. I would have 1000000 retail stores within a mile from the house. Oh, and people are very easy to talk to and approach. I remember after repainting my LR one summer night, I walked outside and striked up a convo with some random neighbor who I don't know. I talked about the work I was doing, shoot the crap and he didn't give a crap about who I was, the paint on my hands or the dirty clothes I was wearing. Very "down-to-earth" people.....

 

[steppinthrax]

Greetings:

Everyone is a “come-downer” unless your surname is on the passenger manifests of the Ark & Dove.

 

[SamSpade]

.... but benefit from those very same people that you hate.

STILL trying to see what the "benefit" is. And squaring that with blatant hostility from people who evidently feel as you do.

 

[steppinthrax]

I don't get THAT from people because they're upset that they EXIST - they're concerned that people move in and CHANGE the place to be something more like the more urban place from whence they CAME. They don't want their rural home to be turned into Waldorf.

And I agree.

I don't think people who come here want that. I think YOUR political leaders are pushed to that once the population increases. I'm sure those that "come down here" see areas of improvement and modernization.

I wish I could show you how MY property has not at all benefited from any increase in equity - nor my in-laws who are currently selling THEIR house - nor my last three neighbors who moved away with absolutely all of them taking losses. (Since most of these were older houses - I'd have to say the loss in equity is almost precisely due to newcomers arriving and new houses built to accommodate them, but that's just me).

Even were that true - and it may be, but not in the experience of anyone I've known in the last 15 years - I hardly see how home equity is the major reason why people do or don't pull up roots, get another job and go elsewhere. I miss the St Mary's County that didn't see constant building and new developments. I'm not thrilled by the huge development up and down 235, and I wouldn't be in favor of MORE of it just north of Sotterley.

Probably the BIGGEST reason I don't move is the LOSS of equity. My house is barely worth more than it was when I bought it. Another is - my kids go to school here - I don't want to interrupt their school and friendships because I want another house. I grew up without that, and I want my children to have that. If I WERE fed up with overbuilding - where the hell would I go? I am pretty much just waiting for retirement. I don't like the building up of my county - but there's nothing I can do about it.

Sounds very much like your poor financial decisions as well as others you know.

 

[MiddleGround]

STILL trying to see what the "benefit" is. And squaring that with blatant hostility from people who evidently feel as you do.

Are you honestly trying to say that property values in and around SMC have not skyrocketed since NAVAIR moved down here? Seriously?

And.. in contrast to what you mentioned above, I know SEVERAL people whose home values are at least double what they paid for them. Personally, my value was just appraised at 175% of what I paid. Agree to disagree I suppose.

And imagine how "built up" this county would truly be if the county didn't half-azz it's construction and road expansion projects!

 

[nutz]

Sounds very much like your poor financial decisions as well as others you know.

Wow, just wow. How neighborly of you