Individual rights vs Ebola Quarintines

[Christy]

Yea, because the government would never do that. Japanese internment camps never existed.

Really. You are comparing a 21 day quarantine to the Japanese internment camps?

 

[Amused_despair]

Really. You are comparing a 21 day quarantine to the Japanese internment camps?

You are comparing a disease that has killed one person in America to the Black Death, so why not?

 

[Hijinx]

I wonder why DOD would require service personnel to undergo a 21 day quarantine when they supposedly will not come into contact with any Ebola patients, and yet this woman who was in direct contact with Ebola patients has decided herself that it isn't required.

Could we all make that decision ourselves or should some authority make it?
If we can all decide ourselves shouldn't our military get that same right?

 

[Lurk]

http://time.com/3270016/ebola-survivor-kent-brantly/#3270016/ebola-survivor-kent-brantly/

Let's see who's the dumb ass here. You said unequivocally

Hey dumb ass, we have been bringing them here all year.

Yet the best you can produce is someone who came this past summer. We've brought NOBODY here from February when Obama first started ignoring the Ebola crisis. DUMB ASS!

 

[Midnightrider]

I wonder why DOD would require service personnel to undergo a 21 day quarantine when they supposedly will not come into contact with any Ebola patients, and yet this woman who was in direct contact with Ebola patients has decided herself that it isn't required.

Could we all make that decision ourselves or should some authority make it?
If we can all decide ourselves shouldn't our military get that same right?

she isn't a service member and didn't sign any of her rights over to the government during her enlistment. Soliders are not 'free', they have to do what the chain of command says.

 

[Midnightrider]

Let's see who's the dumb ass here. You said unequivocally Yet the best you can produce is someone who came this past summer. We've brought NOBODY here from February when Obama first started ignoring the Ebola crisis. DUMB ASS!

yep, you are the dumb ass if you want to argue about 'all year' and not he fact that we have been bringing them here and that we have been curing them.

but please, dont let facts get in the way of your trolling

 

[Christy]

You are comparing a disease that has killed one person in America to the Black Death, so why not?

That's such bull####. I am not. I am merely suggesting that it is not an outrageous request on the part of the government to have a 21 day quarantine for those who have been in direct contact with individuals who have a virus with a very low surviveability rate.

 

[Makavide]

The ebola virus has been identified since 1976, with a mortality rate between between 25% - 100% per outbreak. though nominally at 70%.
http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/outbreaks/history/chronology.html


Doctors without borders have been treating outbreaks for a number of years - at least since 2007 (which is the earliest time mentioned on their page, but that was about a successful containment, I am sure they have been there long before that...)
http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/our-work/medical-issues/ebola

So people have been coming and going to outbreak areas for years - so why the panic now and require 100% quarantine?

 

[Lurk]

yep, you are the dumb ass if you want to argue about 'all year' and not he fact that we have been bringing them here and that we have been curing them.

but please, dont let facts get in the way of your trolling

Go back to finding bigots under your bed. You've screwed the pooch once again.

 

[Midnightrider]

Go back to finding bigots under your bed. You've screwed the pooch once again.

i dont have any under my bed, but there are plenty here as you continue to prove.

as for this thread, i enjoyed handing you your ignornat ass in this debate.

 

[Midnightrider]

The ebola virus has been identified since 1976, with a mortality rate between between 25% - 100% per outbreak. though nominally at 70%.
http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/outbreaks/history/chronology.html


Doctors without borders have been treating outbreaks for a number of years - at least since 2007 (which is the earliest time mentioned on their page, but that was about a successful containment, I am sure they have been there long before that...)
http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/our-work/medical-issues/ebola

So people have been coming and going to outbreak areas for years - so why the panic now and require 100% quarantine?

Because FNC is spinning this as the next big obama/democrate failure and the idiots are sucking it down like pornstars at the end of a movie....

 

[Merlin99]

OK, now let’s take the power you just gave the government and take it to its next logical step: There are anonymous threats posted about violence being committed against a public institution or group of citizens. You are a known sympathizer with groups that are against that group or institution. The government should, in the interest of public safety of course, place you in quarantine along with like-minded individuals in order to ensure that the threatened violence does not occur. You are not arrested or detained, simply in quarantine.

How is this the next logical step? This is like saying the next logical step is to plug your nose and breath through your ass.

 

[Merlin99]

You are comparing a disease that has killed one person in America to the Black Death, so why not?

Because it is very early in the game, do you think the Black Death started with a thousand killed in the first month? The Black Death could have been called the light grey death if they had quarantined the merchants that had brought it through the time required for the fleas to die.

 

[Merlin99]

you cant really be that clueless..... oh thats right, YOU can

http://time.com/3270016/ebola-survivor-kent-brantly/#3270016/ebola-survivor-kent-brantly/

then there was the nurse and the cameraman that we brough back, but those are just off the top of my head.

if you really need a link to the nurses that have recently been cured you are too dumb for help

The translation of this is "I know of the couple that have been on the news, but past that I'm clueless"

 

[Makavide]

 

[Chasey_Lane]

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^ This. There's no "epidemic". Move along, people... move along.

 

[PJay]

http://johngaltfla.com/wordpress/2014/10/21/no-new-us-ebola-cases-until-after-november-5-2014/

Interesting read...

I had the same thought. Strange the silence lately....

 

[terbear1225]

That's such bull####. I am not. I am merely suggesting that it is not an outrageous request on the part of the government to have a 21 day quarantine for those who have been in direct contact with individuals who have a virus with a very low surviveability rate.

key word is in bold!

 

[Amused_despair]

when it is mandatory it is not a request

 

[Amused_despair]

http://johngaltfla.com/wordpress/2014/10/21/no-new-us-ebola-cases-until-after-november-5-2014/

Interesting read...

I had the same thought. Strange the silence lately....

Interesting article, so tell me we can't get two people in government to keep a secret from the press but we are going to get all of the hospital workers, doctors, nurses, administrators and everyone else to go into cahoots on keeping ebola a secret until after the election?