Men Look for Good Bodies in Short-Term Mates .....

[toppick08]

Pig. You're supposed to be wondering if she has a great personality or not.

Seriously, though, many men who have a hard time scoring with women think it's because they aren't Biff Malibu with good looks and a smokin' bod. That's typically not true - typically it's because they're an azzhole who doesn't know how to act in public or how to treat women.

There are tons of men who aren't all that in the looks dept., yet they score with the honeys with no problem. I can name two that I know personally right off the top of my head. And since typing that, I thought of three or four more.

So if women are dissing you, guess what, buddy? It's not your looks or body that are the problem.

Guess it's my cooking....

 

[FED_UP]

Pig. You're supposed to be wondering if she has a great personality or not.

Seriously, though, many men who have a hard time scoring with women think it's because they aren't Biff Malibu with good looks and a smokin' bod. That's typically not true - typically it's because they're an azzhole who doesn't know how to act in public or how to treat women.

There are tons of men who aren't all that in the looks dept., yet they score with the honeys with no problem. I can name two that I know personally right off the top of my head. And since typing that, I thought of three or four more.

So if women are dissing you, guess what, buddy? It's not your looks or body that are the problem.

Look men don't give a dam about a ladies personality at first, lets keep this real.

 

[Toxick]

Pig. You're supposed to be wondering if she has a great personality or not.

Well, of course I do that.

My thought process goes like this:



"Tox..." (I call myself Tox) "Tox... those are the smoothest most delicious looking legs I've ever seen. The curve of those calves and thighs can take down nations, if put to proper use. HOLY ####, I hope she's funny, and punctual."

That's typically not true - typically it's because they're an azzhole who doesn't know how to act in public or how to treat women.

I have to disagree here. In my experience, A-Holes typically don't have problems meeting women and getting dates, regardless of their looks. I've known handsome a-holes, and I've known ugly ones. Neither seem to have problems hooking up.


The only guys I know of who have real problems meeting and dating women are the men who lack an air of confidence and social grace. By social grace, I don't mean they know exactly which wine goes with the entree, or a keenly developed appreciation for opera. I mean someone who can at least carry their half of a conversation, someone who knows when jokes are appropriate (and more importantly when they are inappropriate), and someone who can speak intelligently on at least 1 subject.


Being in the field of Engineering, I run into more than my fair share of shy-guys who are deathly terrified of approaching women - and whenever there are women, say, in meetings, they are visibily tense, and cannot converse. (Luckily, there aren't many women in engineering, or we'd never get any work done)

Anyway - those are the guys who don't have girlfriends... And many of them are not ugly.

 

[TurboK9]

Look men don't give a dam about a ladies personality at first, lets keep this real.

Not on a pick-up hunt, no, but apparently this thread was posted with the intention taht it morph magically into a discussion on legitimate, long term relationships? Arkie? Yes? No? Don't like the tune, change the music?

 

[TurboK9]

Pig. You're supposed to be wondering if she has a great personality or not.

Seriously, though, many men who have a hard time scoring with women think it's because they aren't Biff Malibu with good looks and a smokin' bod. That's typically not true - typically it's because they're an azzhole who doesn't know how to act in public or how to treat women.

There are tons of men who aren't all that in the looks dept., yet they score with the honeys with no problem. I can name two that I know personally right off the top of my head. And since typing that, I thought of three or four more.

So if women are dissing you, guess what, buddy? It's not your looks or body that are the problem.

Now turn that around. That's what I was saying. :shrug: especially the 'think it's because you aren't Biff (Stacy) Malibu.'

I said it more caustically because I'm building up my fan club and didn't want to dissapoint anyone.

 

[vraiblonde]

I have to disagree here. In my experience, A-Holes typically don't have problems meeting women and getting dates, regardless of their looks. I've known handsome a-holes, and I've known ugly ones. Neither seem to have problems hooking up.


The only guys I know of who have real problems meeting and dating women are the men who lack an air of confidence and social grace. By social grace, I don't mean they know exactly which wine goes with the entree, or a keenly developed appreciation for opera. I mean someone who can at least carry their half of a conversation, someone who knows when jokes are appropriate (and more importantly when they are inappropriate), and someone who can speak intelligently on at least 1 subject.


Being in the field of Engineering, I run into more than my fair share of shy-guys who are deathly terrified of approaching women - and whenever there are women, say, in meetings, they are visibily tense, and cannot converse. (Luckily, there aren't many women in engineering, or we'd never get any work done)

Anyway - those are the guys who don't have girlfriends... And many of them are not ugly.

Completely agree

Now, if you're some behemoth with extreme body odor and greasy hair, no, you will not attract a lot of female attention regardless of how smart, funny or charming you are. But if you are an average, or even slightly below average, looking guy who knows how to be attentive and make a woman feel good about herself - man, you might as well not even zip your fly because it's just going to come right straight back down.

I don't know how it works these days because I've been out of the singles scene for awhile. But it used to be that you actually talked to someone before you jumped into bed with them. You didn't just scout around, grab the best looking guy and take him home with you right then and there. I don't know any woman who has ever just nabbed some stranger at the grocery store and taken him home for sex, as Turbo indicates is routine mating behavior.

 

[TurboK9]

Completely agree

Now, if you're some behemoth with extreme body odor and greasy hair, no, you will not attract a lot of female attention regardless of how smart, funny or charming you are. But if you are an average, or even slightly below average, looking guy who knows how to be attentive and make a woman feel good about herself - man, you might as well not even zip your fly because it's just going to come right straight back down.

I don't know how it works these days because I've been out of the singles scene for awhile. But it used to be that you actually talked to someone before you jumped into bed with them. You didn't just scout around, grab the best looking guy and take him home with you right then and there. I don't know any woman who has ever just nabbed some stranger at the grocery store and taken him home for sex, as Turbo indicates is routine mating behavior.

Oh yes. Routine. Yup I said that.



Only for you Vrai, you man-hunting-slut you.

 

[vraiblonde]

Only for you Vrai, you man-hunting-slut you.

Okay, there's probably a good reason why you're calling me a slut - care to explain what it is?

 

[TurboK9]

Okay, there's probably a good reason why you're calling me a slut - care to explain what it is?

Because I have mental issues, remember? And since I've been told to go **** myself, I figure, well....

 

[ArkRescue]

Hey Tox:

Oh my really? See we KNEW you men thought this way !!!

I totally agree with you about self-confidence - it's makes a WORLD of difference. Just last week a guy (who I will say was one of the most unattractive guys I've ever seen (uh oh here we go Turbo)) had an air of confidence about him and he didn't think ANY woman was unapproachable? and I guess he tries just to see what will happen?

Well I wasn't interested at all. So he says to me - "when you loosen up give me a call". Like me being loose is going to help him ? Not! Some people expect you to go along with them and if you don't you're stuck-up?

I agree that I tend to be attracted to the self-confident types (but NOT that guy and it wasn't just his looks). There are a LOT of shy guys out there that would be great mates for someone. Unfortunately the shy types tend to be that way about all parts of their relationship, so are not as easy to have a relationship with as you continually have to encourage them to get out of their comfort zone.

You know what they say about engineers Tox?

Well, of course I do that.

My thought process goes like this:



"Tox..." (I call myself Tox) "Tox... those are the smoothest most delicious looking legs I've ever seen. The curve of those calves and thighs can take down nations, if put to proper use. HOLY ####, I hope she's funny, and punctual."




I have to disagree here. In my experience, A-Holes typically don't have problems meeting women and getting dates, regardless of their looks. I've known handsome a-holes, and I've known ugly ones. Neither seem to have problems hooking up.


The only guys I know of who have real problems meeting and dating women are the men who lack an air of confidence and social grace. By social grace, I don't mean they know exactly which wine goes with the entree, or a keenly developed appreciation for opera. I mean someone who can at least carry their half of a conversation, someone who knows when jokes are appropriate (and more importantly when they are inappropriate), and someone who can speak intelligently on at least 1 subject.


Being in the field of Engineering, I run into more than my fair share of shy-guys who are deathly terrified of approaching women - and whenever there are women, say, in meetings, they are visibily tense, and cannot converse. (Luckily, there aren't many women in engineering, or we'd never get any work done)

Anyway - those are the guys who don't have girlfriends... And many of them are not ugly.

 

[rich70]

Did you ever have a guy you liked "just as a friend"?

You know the guy - he's the guy you found phyisically repulsive (or at least not attractive enough to want him in you), but he was such a sweet and nice guy and you'll love him forever... you just don't love him that way, and you don't want to ruin a great friendship by getting closer to him.

Did you EVER suddenly find yourself attracted to him?



Thought not.

NO!!! NOT THE FRIEND ZONE!!!!!!!

 

[ArkRescue]

You apparently want a butt whippin' I don't think it's possible to talk about it as JUST the initial attraction without going in-depth. I knew it would morph into more. Life is like that.

Not on a pick-up hunt, no, but apparently this thread was posted with the intention taht it morph magically into a discussion on legitimate, long term relationships? Arkie? Yes? No? Don't like the tune, change the music?

 

[n0n1m0us3]

So I can make a judgement about which one of you stooped. :shrug:

lol how about no.

 

[rich70]

Hey Tox:


I totally agree with you about self-confidence - it's makes a WORLD of difference. Just last week a guy (who I will say was one of the most unattractive guys I've ever seen (uh oh here we go Turbo)) had an air of confidence about him and he didn't think ANY woman was unapproachable? and I guess he tries just to see what will happen?

Well I wasn't interested at all. So he says to me - "when you loosen up give me a call". Like me being loose is going to help him ? Not! Some people expect you to go along with them and if you don't you're stuck-up?

Why did you have to bring this up? I thought it was just between you and I!

 

[ArkRescue]

You're not doing much for your fan club with posts like this ...

Oh yes. Routine. Yup I said that.



Only for you Vrai, you man-hunting-slut you.

 

[Pete]

lol how about no.

Are you and Alfred still an item? I only ask because I am somewhat unattractive.

 

[FED_UP]

I would rather go back to the cave man days, things were less simple. Did anyone see the old movie called "Clan of the Cave Bear" Daryl Hannah had to give up the butt, no questions asked, no talking, no getting to know each other. For some reason I am picturing me with a hot blonde like Vrail and ArkRescue. Then when we are done you go start a fire and skin me a rabbit for dinner.

 

[vraiblonde]

I would rather go back to the cave man days, things were less simple. Did anyone see the old movie called "Clan of the Cave Bear" Daryl Hannah had to give up the butt, no questions asked, no talking, no getting to know each other. For some reason I am picturing me with a hot blonde like Vrail and ArkRescue. The when we are done you go start a fire and skin me a rabbit for dinner.

See?? I TOLD you guys!!! Feminists have ruined everything!

 

[ArkRescue]

... a LOT of men have that fantasy about grabbing a women by her hair and taking her .... most don't mean it in a bad way, just more of role playing thing.

See?? I TOLD you guys!!! Feminists have ruined everything!

 

[Toxick]

Hey Tox:

Oh my really? See we KNEW you men thought this way !!!

It's true.

I totally agree with you about self-confidence - it's makes a WORLD of difference. Just last week a guy (who I will say was one of the most unattractive guys I've ever seen (uh oh here we go Turbo)) had an air of confidence about him and he didn't think ANY woman was unapproachable? and I guess he tries just to see what will happen?

There's nothing wrong with that. Confidence (whether you think it's warranted or not) is a good thing. And there are no women who are unapproachable.

Why would a woman want to be regarded as unapproachable?

Well I wasn't interested at all. So he says to me - "when you loosen up give me a call".

This is not confidence.

This is arrogance.


Big difference.

There are a LOT of shy guys out there that would be great mates for someone. Unfortunately the shy types tend to be that way about all parts of their relationship

I wouldn't know. I never dated a shy man.

However, I've dated a few women who were shy. With the exception of one, they were all shy only until you got to know them. After a date or two, they'd talk your ear off and approach various activities with wild abandon.

The one exception I mentioned, she was very sweet and shy, and if we were on the phone or something, and I didn't talk, we'd sit there and listen to each other breathe. I rather think she wasn't "shy" so much as she was just quiet and reserved overall.

You know what they say about engineers Tox?

No, what?