Move over JPC - Meet super-duper deadbeat

somd whisper

New Member
JPC said:
:larry: But the child support system right now puts American parents in jail so custodials can buy unnecessary fancy stuff while the children already have all their physical needs fully met.

This is abusive tyranical government. :coffee:

JPC,

That just is not true. Show me some proof of what you are saying because I NEVER saw anything like that when I worked in the court system and I worked in several.

What is your hang up with the term fancy things? Are you saying that ALL custodial parents either spend the money on themselves or on expensive things that YOU feel are not necessary? Just because a child’s parents are divorced does not mean they are not entitled to have nice things. Is that your only stand on the subject of child support?

What is it exactly is your stand on child support and how do you think you can change the system to make it fair for ALL those involved? Get off the fancy BS and tell me something of substance.

You are supposed to represent the people how are you doing that?
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
JPC said:
:larry: But the child support system right now puts American parents in jail so custodials can buy unnecessary fancy stuff while the children already have all their physical needs fully met.

This is abusive tyranical government. :coffee:
Just think, James, if you had payed the small pittance you owed to your child, maybe your ex could have afforded "fancy stuff" like that one extra dose of chemo, or a slightly better doctor, and she would be alive today.

Tell the truth here. You were not jailed for missing a few payments. You skipped town for 11 years, and didn't pay. When the system came after you, you purposefully made yourself destitute so that you couldn't pay. Fortunately, the great Michael Harris, in his great wisdom, saw through your pathetic charade and threw your pathetic azz in jail where you belong.

$27,000 in arears is something you are proud of, but it disgusts every rational person. You really need to stop claiming your child support case was closed as if it were settled. The truth is that you outlived your ex-wife, and you outlived the man who raised him for you. And yet you are proud that your case was closed.

So James, when are you going to pay the restitution you owe for your crimes? You don't have a chance of being elected, but suppose you were. Wouldn't it be funny if the first thing they did was garnish your wages? And then they came after you for the support you never payed? Boy, you'd be painting your butt off then wouldn't you?
 

hvp05

Methodically disorganized
JPC said:
It is incredibly untruthful and illegitimate to demand payments while they have the parents in jail but that they do.
:yay: You can lose your job while in jail also, don't forget. If one does not break the law, they will have no worries.

JPC said:
... because they do not know how or do not know the law or just do not care about what the unjust system does to them
Ignorance is not an excuse. Neither is saying, "I don't care." In fact, that is the attitude that landed them there to begin with. They deserve every minute in jail and having to pay every penny of back-due support.

JPC said:
... but for a government to then put American parents into jail to feed those demands is reason for that government to fall.
Now you want the entire government to collapse? :confused: You run with that; that plan will be as successful as the one you currently tout.
 

somd whisper

New Member
MMDad said:
Just think, James, if you had payed the small pittance you owed to your child, maybe your ex could have afforded "fancy stuff" like that one extra dose of chemo, or a slightly better doctor, and she would be alive today.

Tell the truth here. You were not jailed for missing a few payments. You skipped town for 11 years, and didn't pay. When the system came after you, you purposefully made yourself destitute so that you couldn't pay. Fortunately, the great Michael Harris, in his great wisdom, saw through your pathetic charade and threw your pathetic azz in jail where you belong.

$27,000 in arears is something you are proud of, but it disgusts every rational person. You really need to stop claiming your child support case was closed as if it were settled. The truth is that you outlived your ex-wife, and you outlived the man who raised him for you. And yet you are proud that your case was closed.

So James, when are you going to pay the restitution you owe for your crimes? You don't have a chance of being elected, but suppose you were. Wouldn't it be funny if the first thing they did was garnish your wages? And then they came after you for the support you never payed? Boy, you'd be painting your butt off then wouldn't you?

:yay:
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
somd whisper said:
JPC,

That just is not true. Show me some proof of what you are saying because I NEVER saw anything like that when I worked in the court system and I worked in several.

What is your hang up with the term fancy things? Are you saying that ALL custodial parents either spend the money on themselves or on expensive things that YOU feel are not necessary? Just because a child’s parents are divorced does not mean they are not entitled to have nice things. Is that your only stand on the subject of child support?

What is it exactly is your stand on child support and how do you think you can change the system to make it fair for ALL those involved? Get off the fancy BS and tell me something of substance.

You are supposed to represent the people how are you doing that?
He won't give you a coherent answer, but he has admitted to me that his ultimate goal is to end child support enforcement. There should be no penalty for abandoning your child.

You should ask him about mandatory sentencing of violent child rapists. He beleives that there should not be minimum sentencing, no matter how heinous the crime, because the judges and courts are honest and can give adequate sentences without minimums. However, he does beleive that there should be sentencing limits to prevent excessive sentences for violent child rapists because the judges and courts can't be trusted not to abuse the convicts.

Pretty sick, isn't he?
 

somd whisper

New Member
MMDad said:
He won't give you a coherent answer, but he has admitted to me that his ultimate goal is to end child support enforcement. There should be no penalty for abandoning your child.

You should ask him about mandatory sentencing of violent child rapists. He beleives that there should not be minimum sentencing, no matter how heinous the crime, because the judges and courts are honest and can give adequate sentences without minimums. However, he does beleive that there should be sentencing limits to prevent excessive sentences for violent child rapists because the judges and courts can't be trusted not to abuse the convicts.

Pretty sick, isn't he?

:yeahthat:
I am speechless.
 
J

JPC, Sr.

Guest
The Preacher!

MMDad said:
He won't give you a coherent answer, but he has admitted to me that his ultimate goal is to end child support enforcement. There should be no penalty for abandoning your child.

You should ask him about mandatory sentencing of violent child rapists. He beleives that there should not be minimum sentencing, no matter how heinous the crime, because the judges and courts are honest and can give adequate sentences without minimums. However, he does beleive that there should be sentencing limits to prevent excessive sentences for violent child rapists because the judges and courts can't be trusted not to abuse the convicts.

Pretty sick, isn't he?
:larry: This guy does not speak for me. If anything one can figure that I am willing to speak for myself.

:whistle: FYI.
 
J

JPC, Sr.

Guest
The Preacher!

somd whisper said:
JPC,

That just is not true. Show me some proof of what you are saying because I NEVER saw anything like that when I worked in the court system and I worked in several.
:jameo: The Courts are fairly closed off and cases are hard to see and certainly no links either. But I have been to many different Courts myself and I have seen enough to know. The proof is in the reality that in the USA and Maryland and 29b there are plenty of resourses so if any child is doing without then it is not because of failing to get the child support but only because of custodial neglect or abuse.
somd whisper said:
What is your hang up with the term fancy things? Are you saying that ALL custodial parents either spend the money on themselves or on expensive things that YOU feel are not necessary? Just because a child’s parents are divorced does not mean they are not entitled to have nice things. Is that your only stand on the subject of child support?
:jameo: Fancy is just another word for extras. Just because the custodials want extras then the government has no business putting parents in jail when the children already have all their physical needs met in full as they all do.
:lalala:
 

hvp05

Methodically disorganized
JPC said:
This guy does not speak for me. If anything one can figure that I am willing to speak for myself.
That you are. But sometimes it helps for someone to distill your comment and clean it up some... although no one can make your propositions more logical.
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
JPC said:
The proof is in the reality that in the USA and Maryland and 29b there are plenty of resourses so if any child is doing without then it is not because of failing to get the child support but only because of custodial neglect or abuse.
Are you saying it is only the custodial's fault and not because deadbeats like you didn't provide what you are required to provide? That is BS, again you refuse to accept your responsibility and are endorsing others not to accept theirs either.
 
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czygvtwkr

Guest
Well as you yourself have proven that is sometimes the only way to make someone pay what they owe. Its just like going into walmart and taking a dvd player off the shelf, the only way they have to make you pay is to send you to jail if you don't.
 

oldman

Lobster Land
I think posing questions to my wall provides more intelligent answers than participating in discussions with JPC. That is all.
 
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czygvtwkr

Guest
oldman said:
I think posing questions to my wall provides more intelligent answers than participating in discussions with JPC. That is all.

LOL I think you are correct.
 

hvp05

Methodically disorganized
oldman said:
I think posing questions to my wall provides more intelligent answers than participating in discussions with JPC. That is all.
I possess a lint ball that has taught me quite a few things. JPC, nada.
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
Message just sent to theSt. Mary's County League Of Women Voters

A candidate for delegate of 29B, James P. Cusick, Sr. made the following comment on the forums of Somd.com regarding child support.

"The proof is in the reality that in the USA and Maryland and 29b there are plenty of resourses so if any child is doing without then it is not because of failing to get the child support but only because of custodial neglect or abuse."

It is his stated belief that non-custodials do not need to make child support payments as, as he states, "The child support system already is a burden on the government and collecting money for children that already have their needs met is unjust and illogical law."
I wonder what their response will be? :tap:
 
J

JPC, Sr.

Guest
The Preacher!

czygvtwkr said:
Well as you yourself have proven that is sometimes the only way to make someone pay what they owe.
:larry: The debtor's prisons failed centuries ago and it is a tarnished stain on mankind that they ever existed. Now our modern style of debtor's prisons for parents is twice as niaeve because our laws failed to learn from its ignorant past.

This posters might feel justified in putting her children's other parent into a cage to force cash out of them but having our government and laws doing the dirty work is very poor government.
czygvtwkr said:
Its just like going into walmart and taking a dvd player off the shelf, the only way they have to make you pay is to send you to jail if you don't.
:jameo: Recent news reports say that Wal-Mart has started to do as other big stores have been doing and has stopped prosecuting shop lifters as the practice was expencive and it hurt the company's immage. Now they will only have the person arrested if they fail to cooperate and do not have a valid identification. FYI.

Now child support laws need to grow wise too. :lalala:
 

somd whisper

New Member
JPC said:
:jameo: The Courts are fairly closed off and cases are hard to see and certainly no links either. But I have been to many different Courts myself and I have seen enough to know. The proof is in the reality that in the USA and Maryland and 29b there are plenty of resourses so if any child is doing without then it is not because of failing to get the child support but only because of custodial neglect or abuse. :jameo: Fancy is just another word for extras. Just because the custodials want extras then the government has no business putting parents in jail when the children already have all their physical needs met in full as they all do.
:lalala:


The courts do not put parents in jail because the custodial parents wanted fancy things for the children.

And could you please explain "The Courts are fairly closed off and cases are hard to see and certainly no links either."

I am not sure what you are saying.

I agree that the system needs to be reformed but you have to offer more than what you have.

Once you get in, what is your plan and how are you going to do it?
 
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