Mr Vinderman - That's Lieutenant Colonel Vindman.

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
A already posted this...but it belongs here too..

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limblips

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member
Don't know about the other branches, but Mister is a proper address for junior Naval and CG officers O-4 and below.
LtCol Vindman is an O-5. Moot point but correct when the people are in a familiar relationship but when they do not know to each other it is proper to refer to them by rank.
 

black dog

Free America
.......do they know this is what you do on your break from the fry station?

Ha, I moved past that station when I was 13 toad...
Tell grams to watch the movie Forest Gump, maybe after watching it she would be willing to care more about your education....
 

The Boss

Active Member
Ha, I moved past that station when I was 13 toad...
Tell grams to watch the movie Forest Gump, maybe after watching it she would be willing to care more about your education....
.............I'm sorry Mellwood kicked you out must be rough on your family.
 

black dog

Free America
.............I'm sorry Mellwood kicked you out must be rough on your family.

Hey, your grams just texted me, shes worn out from banging her Hurry cane on the floor.
She said for you to take the trash out and rake the leaves up in the morning and now you are a month behind with rent.....
 

The Boss

Active Member
...what will you do now that you lost your job picking up trash on the side of the road, by the way you look good in Orange.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Alexander Vindman’s Impeachment Testimony Displays His Open Insubordination

Vindman testified he thought it was “inappropriate” for President Trump’s emissary, Rudy Giuliani, to ask Ukraine to investigate Hunter Biden’s dealings with Burisma, which he acknowledged was a “corrupt” company. So even though, according to Vindman, the president’s personal emissary was asking the Ukrainians to conduct such an investigation of a company widely acknowledged to be corrupt, and the younger Biden was earning almost $1 million a year as a board member without any discernible qualifications, and even though Vice President Joe Biden had been the Obama administration’s point man in connection with Ukraine, this lieutenant colonel’s personal opinion was that such an investigation was “inappropriate and that we were not going to get involved in investigations” (30-31).

Vindman, therefore, de facto overruled Giuliani’s overtures because Vindman thought “this would not be a fair investigation, and it would provide, you know, compromising or maybe even fabricated information, if need be” (33).

Rep. John Ratcliffe, R-Texas, properly questioned Vindman about whether his testimony was simply about non-impeachable policy disagreements or he had knowledge of potentially impeachable criminal acts. Vindman attempted to deflect and evade the questions, and Ratcliffe politely pressed on.

Vindman finally admitted he did not know of “a crime or anything of that nature.” But he “made a moral and ethical judgment” that he thought it was “wrong” and that he “also had deep policy concerns” (155).
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
Alexander Vindman’s Impeachment Testimony Displays His Open Insubordination

Vindman testified he thought it was “inappropriate” for President Trump’s emissary, Rudy Giuliani, to ask Ukraine to investigate Hunter Biden’s dealings with Burisma, which he acknowledged was a “corrupt” company. So even though, according to Vindman, the president’s personal emissary was asking the Ukrainians to conduct such an investigation of a company widely acknowledged to be corrupt, and the younger Biden was earning almost $1 million a year as a board member without any discernible qualifications, and even though Vice President Joe Biden had been the Obama administration’s point man in connection with Ukraine, this lieutenant colonel’s personal opinion was that such an investigation was “inappropriate and that we were not going to get involved in investigations” (30-31).

Vindman, therefore, de facto overruled Giuliani’s overtures because Vindman thought “this would not be a fair investigation, and it would provide, you know, compromising or maybe even fabricated information, if need be” (33).

Rep. John Ratcliffe, R-Texas, properly questioned Vindman about whether his testimony was simply about non-impeachable policy disagreements or he had knowledge of potentially impeachable criminal acts. Vindman attempted to deflect and evade the questions, and Ratcliffe politely pressed on.

Vindman finally admitted he did not know of “a crime or anything of that nature.” But he “made a moral and ethical judgment” that he thought it was “wrong” and that he “also had deep policy concerns” (155).

Just overstepping his job a bit, Perhaps he should have noted his concerns to the President and then STFU.
Certainly he should be running off at the mouth to Congress.
 

Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
Alexander Vindman’s Impeachment Testimony Displays His Open Insubordination

Vindman testified he thought it was “inappropriate” for President Trump’s emissary, Rudy Giuliani, to ask Ukraine to investigate Hunter Biden’s dealings with Burisma, which he acknowledged was a “corrupt” company. So even though, according to Vindman, the president’s personal emissary was asking the Ukrainians to conduct such an investigation of a company widely acknowledged to be corrupt, and the younger Biden was earning almost $1 million a year as a board member without any discernible qualifications, and even though Vice President Joe Biden had been the Obama administration’s point man in connection with Ukraine, this lieutenant colonel’s personal opinion was that such an investigation was “inappropriate and that we were not going to get involved in investigations” (30-31).

Vindman, therefore, de facto overruled Giuliani’s overtures because Vindman thought “this would not be a fair investigation, and it would provide, you know, compromising or maybe even fabricated information, if need be” (33).

Rep. John Ratcliffe, R-Texas, properly questioned Vindman about whether his testimony was simply about non-impeachable policy disagreements or he had knowledge of potentially impeachable criminal acts. Vindman attempted to deflect and evade the questions, and Ratcliffe politely pressed on.

Vindman finally admitted he did not know of “a crime or anything of that nature.” But he “made a moral and ethical judgment” that he thought it was “wrong” and that he “also had deep policy concerns” (155).
As I said before, he should be facing military charges.

He and all the other career civil servants had absolute crap fits when Trump actually got elected. He was coming after ALL OF THEM, BECAUSE THEY WERE PART OF THE SWAMP AND THEY KNEW IT. They knew their entire "mission" was going to be thwarted and/or ended and they possibly would be gone-as in without jobs. Just like when Obama got rid of all those civil servants when HE got elected. ("Elections have consequences"...and as he so eloquently put it "I won. Get over it")

BUT - these arrogant civil servants - they still THOUGHT they were going to not only "push their own agendas," we now have evidence that they were actively working to destroy this POTUS and his administration.

It's going to be fun watching as they get perp-walked one by one. #schadenfreude
 

The Boss

Active Member
As I said before, he should be facing military charges.

He and all the other career civil servants had absolute crap fits when Trump actually got elected. He was coming after ALL OF THEM, BECAUSE THEY WERE PART OF THE SWAMP AND THEY KNEW IT. They knew their entire "mission" was going to be thwarted and/or ended and they possibly would be gone-as in without jobs. Just like when Obama got rid of all those civil servants when HE got elected. ("Elections have consequences"...and as he so eloquently put it "I won. Get over it")

BUT - these arrogant civil servants - they still THOUGHT they were going to not only "push their own agendas," we now have evidence that they were actively working to destroy this POTUS and his administration.

It's going to be fun watching as they get perp-walked one by one. #schadenfreude
He's a real American and so are the "Civil Servants" you seem to hate and they did their sworn duty .people of the trump cult like yourself openly want the destruction of this County.trump is not a Dictator as much as he wants to be one,there are checks and balances and trump needs to be put into check!
 

The Boss

Active Member
Just overstepping his job a bit, Perhaps he should have noted his concerns to the President and then STFU.
Certainly he should be running off at the mouth to Congress.
Because as with everything else the president can not be trusted ,he is the biggest crook in the country.His supporters seem to be proud of that.
 

The Boss

Active Member
Alexander Vindman’s Impeachment Testimony Displays His Open Insubordination

Vindman testified he thought it was “inappropriate” for President Trump’s emissary, Rudy Giuliani, to ask Ukraine to investigate Hunter Biden’s dealings with Burisma, which he acknowledged was a “corrupt” company. So even though, according to Vindman, the president’s personal emissary was asking the Ukrainians to conduct such an investigation of a company widely acknowledged to be corrupt, and the younger Biden was earning almost $1 million a year as a board member without any discernible qualifications, and even though Vice President Joe Biden had been the Obama administration’s point man in connection with Ukraine, this lieutenant colonel’s personal opinion was that such an investigation was “inappropriate and that we were not going to get involved in investigations” (30-31).

Vindman, therefore, de facto overruled Giuliani’s overtures because Vindman thought “this would not be a fair investigation, and it would provide, you know, compromising or maybe even fabricated information, if need be” (33).

Rep. John Ratcliffe, R-Texas, properly questioned Vindman about whether his testimony was simply about non-impeachable policy disagreements or he had knowledge of potentially impeachable criminal acts. Vindman attempted to deflect and evade the questions, and Ratcliffe politely pressed on.

Vindman finally admitted he did not know of “a crime or anything of that nature.” But he “made a moral and ethical judgment” that he thought it was “wrong” and that he “also had deep policy concerns” (155).
Hopefully his testimony will hurt trump.
 
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