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[bdh802]

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The gay I know sexually assaulted a child making him a pedophile. After the child became an adult he also sexually assaulted a child. I know assaulting children isn't restricted to gays but it does happen. All I was suggesting is that some may not understand what happens outside their little world thus make generalizations as Otter was referring to.

Now I understand. You are wise. As a parent, I will do my best to keep my kids away from the gay influence. I really hope and pray they turn out O.K. It infuriates me school systems around the country are slipping the agenda in the lesson plans. I would rather my kid read the bible than a book called "My two Mommies." If you don't believe there is a devil trying to get to your kids, you should! Did you know they can teach your kids about witchcraft but they can't mention God in public schools? I am not some religion preacher who wants to convert everyone and save the world but I do see what's going on and will fight to do the right thing!

Someone in an earlier post said something that stuck with me. God loves everyone, even gay people. He cries when he has to send them to hell! That sums it up.

 

[Bustem' Down]

If you don't believe there is a devil trying to get to your kids, you should! Did you know they can teach your kids about witchcraft but they can't mention God in public schools?

Depends on where you go. I have an Aunt that teaches elementary down in rual Texas. Harry Potter books are banned from the school, they are not allowed to put up decorations for Holloween, but have a Christmas pagent supported by the local Baptist church.

 

[bdh802]

Depends on where you go. I have an Aunt that teaches elementary down in rual Texas. Harry Potter books are banned from the school, they are not allowed to put up decorations for Holloween, but have a Christmas pagent supported by the local Baptist church.

Wow, that's encouraging. I like this place already. Why don't we hear about this in the media? Oh, never mind. We know. Does anyone know of other areas like this? Texas is OK but I'd kinda like to find some place in the Carolinas or Georgia like this.

 

[Bustem' Down]

Wow, that's encouraging. I like this place already. Why don't we hear about this in the media? Oh, never mind. We know. Does anyone know of other areas like this? Texas is OK but I'd kinda like to find some place in the Carolinas or Georgia like this.

I don't think it's ok, I think it's rediculous to ban those books. I've never seen so many children reading accross the country as when those books came out. Find me something wrong with getting kids to read instead of plopping down in front of the TV.

 

[oldman]

Gays are a part of our society. They are not to be disrespected or ignored any more than any others in our society. The one I know I had no problem at all with until I found out what he'd done years ago and I'd have the same problem with anyone else that did something terrible. Will they end up in Hell, well that's not my decision to make.

 

[gumbo]

...eye poke avatar and can't help follow it to this negative, fatalistic attitude you have.

None of us have been 'over exposed' to gay marriage and therefore numb to it or think it just this mom and apple pie thing. There is no gay marriage to speak of.

As far as incest goes, I don't know a single person who doesn't recoil in horror at the mention of the word. I don't know of anyone, NAMBLA, anyone who comes out in support of incest or sex with children without being absolutely rejected as sick.

I don't know anyone supportive of child porn. I don't know anyone who has watched Forest Gump and said "Well, dad had a right to have sex with Jenny."

As for sexual dysfunction being dysfunction, to follow your logic, one would reasonably come to the conclusion that heterosexuals are the far larger problem as the vast majority of sexual crimes are committed by heteros. Isn't that right? Willing to address that?

Incest didn't start with the 1960's or 'gay' rights parades. It did start being something publicly decried instead of the whispers and blind eyes of the past.

It's fine for you to disapprove of what other adults do. That doesn't interest me. Your thinking does because if you believe two consenting adults, in their private life don't have a right to that privacy, how long do you think that you will?

Can you make a Constitutional argument opposed to gay marriage?

I used to think gay marriage was nothing short of silly. Through conversation and consideration of the issue, I've changed my mind. There is no valid Constitutional argument in opposition to the union of two adults based on their gender, at least none I've seen as yet.

That is the basis for this argument and it must be because your and my rights depend on the same document.

You twist sheot around like a woman.
You say fertilizer and I say horse sheot. Guess what Larry it came out the horses azz and it don't matter what it done for your flowers, it's still horse sheot and you know it.

I didn't say a damn thing about being over exposed to gay marriages now did I??????

Does something have to be written in the Constitution for you to know its wrong?
It's not written in the Constitution that picking your nose in a restaurant is wrong, but we know it's not right.

Because you don't know a single person that doesn't recoil at incest means it doesn't exist and no one turns a blind eye to it. Earth to Larry!
Well MR Larry ya don't have to look outside of Southern MD to find incest and people do know about it. I'm talking my uncle is my dad and Grand Dada and dad is the same dude.
Animals do incest but they don't actually do homo.
So where do we draw the line.
You spoke of marriage being love, well there are people who love their dogs
Oh but thats not the same. Try telling a dog lover that! Well go on you know who she is.
There are different kinds of love and your assuming that two people of the same sex, love the same way a man and woman does. Why? Because they say so. How would they know? Because they had a straight relationship with someone they couldn't stand having sex with. Oh great comparison.

So what your really saying is, it's Honkey Dorey with you that in the future
It's OK for kids to grow up next door to MR & MR Bob Smith and it's OK for 8 year old kids to say, "Dad when I grow up I want to be gay".

Answer this one. We call Alcoholism a disease because it links to compulsive disorders. But yet we don't want to refer to Homosexuality as a disease or a disorder?
We don't need alcohol or sex to sustain a happy life..I can't believe my redneck azz just said that! But it is true.

Better yet answer this one
Sodomy and Fellatio is illegal, consensual or not in the state of Maryland.
Why is that? If there is nothing wrong with homosexuality.

And yet another.. with sodomy and fellatio being illegal in Maryland, how can Maryland issue a legal marriage license to two men?

So as you can see there are laws that do forbid Homosexual marriages.

But I guess we should change laws and our moral views of right and wrong so we can all learn to except un natural sex acts that people do to one another. Oh and lets give it a happy name too... we will call it GAY.

Now let me see ya twist out of this.

 

[Bustem' Down]

Better yet answer this one
Sodomy and Fellatio is illegal, consensual or not in the state of Maryland.
Why is that? If there is nothing wrong with homosexuality.

And yet another.. with sodomy and fellatio being illegal in Maryland, how can Maryland issue a legal marriage license to two men?

So as you can see there are laws that do forbid Homosexual marriages.

But I guess we should change laws and our moral views of right and wrong so we can all learn to except un natural sex acts that people do to one another. Oh and lets give it a happy name too... we will call it GAY.

Now let me see ya twist out of this.

It's illegal between a man and a woman too as well as illegal in the Uniform Code of Military Justice and most other states, so I guess by that standard we should make all marriages illegal? There is no provision in the law stating just between members of the same sex. Sodomy is defined as any sex not vaginal.

 

[Bustem' Down]

So what your really saying is, it's Honkey Dorey with you that in the future
It's OK for kids to grow up next door to MR & MR Bob Smith and it's OK for 8 year old kids to say, "Dad when I grow up I want to be gay".

Once again, prohibiting gay marraige will not stop this. Homosexuals will still live together and be around people so that's a useless tired excuse.

 

[gumbo]

I don't if I'm so much "pro-gay" as I am "anti" government discrimination of taxpaying citizens. I think you should be able to marry whoever the hell you want and the state should have no say-so over it.

Marriage is not only about the money, it's a social contract - we are a pair, a partnership, legally and morally committed to each other. We are not shacking up and out messing with other people. We are a family and we love each other and cannot easily walk away when the going gets tough.

What's so terrible about that?

Family..the basic unit in society traditionally consisting of two parents rearing their children.
I am a traditional American. I like American traditions and I'm sick and damn tired of changing American tradition for every damn foreigner, illegal immigrant and homo.
I'm tired of walking on eggshells because I might offend someone just because I'am a white male. And now I have to walk on more eggshells because I'm a heterosexual white male.
Everyone is a minority but the white heterosexual male.
What kind of American Tradition is that.

Maybe sub consciously I'm just pissed at gay white men because they figured out away to be a minority too.

 

[gumbo]

It's illegal between a man and a woman too as well as illegal in the Uniform Code of Military Justice and most other states, so I guess by that standard we should make all marriages illegal? There is no provision in the law stating just between members of the same sex. Sodomy is defined as any sex not vaginal.

Who said all men fudge pack their wifes?
And who said all wifes give head ?

But we do know what MR & MR Bob are doing don't we?

 

[Bustem' Down]

Who said all men fudge pack their wifes?
And who said all wifes give head ?

But we do know what MR & MR Bob are doing don't we?

I never said all do, but some do. You can't exempt some and not others. You can't twist the law just to fit your agenda. And what about Mrs. and Mrs lesbian?

 

[HillBillyChick]

I don't think it's ok, I think it's rediculous to ban those books. I've never seen so many children reading accross the country as when those books came out. Find me something wrong with getting kids to read instead of plopping down in front of the TV.

TRUE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Tonio]

If you look at the ABBA women and...start to feel your blood pressure perk up...you're straight.

If you look at the ABBA guys and want to jump into their rayon bell-bottoms,
...your not.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2006/08/01/DI2006080100633.html

Gene Weingarten: Deep down, I believe that gay men are just kidding. 'Cause I just don't get it. I want to grab a gay friend, and drag him to the movies, and FORCE HIM to stare at, like, Natalie Portman (speaking of hot Jewish women), and say, "NOTHING??? YOU GOT NOTHING?????? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? YOU'RE KIDDING ME, RIGHT????"

 

[Tonio]

Did you know they can teach your kids about witchcraft but they can't mention God in public schools?

What does one have to do with the other? There is no scientific proof that witchcraft even exists. My own belief is that it's just fantasy nonsense, like someone took Tolkein too seriously as a kid.

 

[bcp]

Once again, prohibiting gay marraige will not stop this. Homosexuals will still live together and be around people so that's a useless tired excuse.

Evidently prohibiting murder, rape, molestation, theft etc... will not stop those actions either. Those demented people will still be around people, so by your standards, we should just learn to accept their actions and make it acceptable for them to act in that manner?

this makes sense to me.

 

[Tonio]

I don't if I'm so much "pro-gay" as I am "anti" government discrimination of taxpaying citizens.

And what is "pro-gay" supposed to mean? Sounds like an advertising campaign. "Join the Gay Team, if only for the uniforms!" Or how about the Queer Eye guys dressed as cheerleaders: "Gimme a G! Gimme an A!..."

The phrase "pro-gay" phrase doesn't mean anything, because each of us has no control over others' personal lives. As others here have said, straight people will continue to be straight, and gay people will continue to be gay, whether others favor those or oppose those.

 

[Larry Gude]

One at a time...

I didn't say a damn thing about being over exposed to gay marriages now did I??????

You'll pardon me if I miss understood this post of yours; Post #39

The fact that you don't see anything wrong with Homos getting married because of your over exposer to it doesn't make it right.

I had read that to mean...well...you explain it in your own words.

 

[vraiblonde]

"Join the Gay Team, if only for the uniforms!"

 

[Larry Gude]

Next...

Does something have to be written in the Constitution for you to know its wrong?
It's not written in the Constitution that picking your nose in a restaurant is wrong, but we know it's not right.

...the US Constitution and Bill of Rights are documents limiting the power and scope of government, not the people. Every single right listed are RIGHTS of the people that the government may not violate.

Free speech is the right of an individual to speak his mind. You may not like what I have to say, but that does not mean you have the right to silence me or use government force to do so.

The right to keep and bear arms is about the individual.

Protection from illegal search and seizure. Same thing.

So and so forth. And there is also a right to equal protection under the law.

The document is about what you CAN DO free from government interference or sanction, not what you can't do.

Thus, there is no Constitutional prohibition against picking your nose in a restaurant.

Now, as you're decided to use public nose picking as analogy to gay marriage, is it OK with you if people pick their nose in private?

Why or why not?

 

[Larry Gude]

Continuing...

Because you don't know a single person that doesn't recoil at incest means it doesn't exist and no one turns a blind eye to it. Earth to Larry! Well MR Larry ya don't have to look outside of Southern MD to find incest and people do know about it. I'm talking my uncle is my dad and Grand Dada and dad is the same dude.

...not sure what you are saying here, Chief. I took this; (post 39 again)

If your exposed to something wrong long enough, your sense's become numb to what its right.
The prostitute feels something is wrong when she first starts committing the acts of prostitution, soon after, she starts justifying her action to herself and others.
If incest is common enough practice in an area. The people who live there will turn a blind eye to that too.

...to mean you feard that constant exposure to the idea of gay marriage would make it normal to you, a person who opposes it, over time, because you'd become numb to it and this may happen to other right thinking folks as well.

I was using incest, at your suggestion, and the idea of it, to illustrate that a thing everyone pretty much agrees is abhorrent has not lost it's ugly stigma, by any stretch, thus challenging your 'exposure over time' fear.

I am not exposed to incest yet still think it a deep wrong. I am not exposed to gay marriage yet see it as a right between two consenting adults. I do know, intellectually, incest happens. It's one of those things that will always make me recoil. Gay marriage, I understand you see it the same way you view incest. I don't.

One thing you may choose to consider; Sometimes when people initially don't like something yet change their mind about it over time and consideration, they don't always change their mind because they are numb to it. Sometimes they change their mind because they've... thought about it.