mamatutu
mama to two
I don't get trolling, but I think vrai takes advantage of it because she is the bored mommy! 
People will bitch about anything
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I don't get trolling, but I think vrai takes advantage of it because she is the bored mommy! 
Ahh, but there are provisions for that in the Flag Code:
The reason the flag is folded (ceremonial) is because that is the proper way to store a flag, because it is not allowed to be buried [with the service member]. That is also the way it is presented to the next of kin.
mamatutu
mama to two
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Anybody ever call you an idiot?
mamatutu
mama to two
You seemed to be upset about it. I guess you flip flopped. This thread is all over the place. Business as usual.
mamatutu
mama to two
Rarely. So? And you are one of them because it seems that you think you don't stink, and you have changed your stance on this thread. I have called myself an idiot for some decisions I have made. You will always be after me. So be it. Any more questions?
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That portion of the Flag Code is talking about something entirely different.
Folding the flag is appropriate and is a proper way to store a flag.
The actual FOLDS of the flag mean something. In the next post I will post the Symbols for the folds of the Flag.
If you have never seen the ceremony for this - it is very solemn and very emotional. (at least to me, it always has been)
Symbols for the Folds of the Flag
The first fold of our flag is a symbol of life.
The second fold is a symbol of our belief in eternal life.
The third fold is made in honor and remembrance of the veteran departing our ranks, and who gave a portion of his or her life for the defense of our country to attain peace throughout the world.
The fourth fold represents our weaker nature; as American citizens trusting in God, it is to Him we turn in times of peace, as well as in times of war, for His divine guidance.
The fifth fold is a tribute to our country, for in the words of Stephen Decatur, “Our country, in dealing with other countries, may she always be right, but it is still our country, right or wrong.”
The sixth fold is for where our hearts lie. It is with our heart that we pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
The seventh fold is a tribute to our armed forces, for it is through the armed forces that we protect our country and our flag against all enemies, whether they be found within or without the boundaries of our republic.
The eighth fold is a tribute to the one who entered into the valley of the shadow of death, that we might see the light of day, and to honor our mother, for whom it flies on Mother’s Day.
The ninth fold is a tribute to womanhood, for it has been through their faith, love, loyalty and devotion that the character of the men and women who have made this country great have been molded.
The 10th fold is a tribute to father, for he, too, has given his sons and daughters for the defense of our country since he or she was first born.
The 11th fold, in the eyes of Hebrew citizens, represents the lower portion of the seal of King David and King Solomon and glorifies, in their eyes, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
The 12th fold, in the eyes of a Christian citizen, represents an emblem of eternity and glorifies, in their eyes, God the Father, the Son and Holy Ghost.
When the flag is completely folded, the stars are uppermost, reminding us of our national motto, “In God We Trust.”
After the flag is completely folded and tucked in, it has the appearance of a cocked hat, ever reminding us of the soldiers who served under Gen. George Washington and the sailors and Marines who served under Capt. John Paul Jones and were followed by their comrades and shipmates in the U.S. Armed Forces, preserving for us the rights, privileges and freedoms we enjoy today.
The source and the date of origin of this Flag Folding Procedure is unknown, however some sources attribute it to the Gold Star Mothers of America while others to an Air Force chaplain stationed at the United States Air Force Academy. Others consider it to be an urban legend. It is provided as a patriotic service to all.
http://www.legion.org/flag/folding
Symbols for the Folds of the Flag
The first fold of our flag is a symbol of life.
The second fold is a symbol of our belief in eternal life.
The third fold is made in honor and remembrance of the veteran departing our ranks, and who gave a portion of his or her life for the defense of our country to attain peace throughout the world.
The fourth fold represents our weaker nature; as American citizens trusting in God, it is to Him we turn in times of peace, as well as in times of war, for His divine guidance.
The fifth fold is a tribute to our country, for in the words of Stephen Decatur, “Our country, in dealing with other countries, may she always be right, but it is still our country, right or wrong.”
The sixth fold is for where our hearts lie. It is with our heart that we pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
The seventh fold is a tribute to our armed forces, for it is through the armed forces that we protect our country and our flag against all enemies, whether they be found within or without the boundaries of our republic.
The eighth fold is a tribute to the one who entered into the valley of the shadow of death, that we might see the light of day, and to honor our mother, for whom it flies on Mother’s Day.
The ninth fold is a tribute to womanhood, for it has been through their faith, love, loyalty and devotion that the character of the men and women who have made this country great have been molded.
The 10th fold is a tribute to father, for he, too, has given his sons and daughters for the defense of our country since he or she was first born.
The 11th fold, in the eyes of Hebrew citizens, represents the lower portion of the seal of King David and King Solomon and glorifies, in their eyes, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
The 12th fold, in the eyes of a Christian citizen, represents an emblem of eternity and glorifies, in their eyes, God the Father, the Son and Holy Ghost.
When the flag is completely folded, the stars are uppermost, reminding us of our national motto, “In God We Trust.”
After the flag is completely folded and tucked in, it has the appearance of a cocked hat, ever reminding us of the soldiers who served under Gen. George Washington and the sailors and Marines who served under Capt. John Paul Jones and were followed by their comrades and shipmates in the U.S. Armed Forces, preserving for us the rights, privileges and freedoms we enjoy today.
The source and the date of origin of this Flag Folding Procedure is unknown, however some sources attribute it to the Gold Star Mothers of America while others to an Air Force chaplain stationed at the United States Air Force Academy. Others consider it to be an urban legend. It is provided as a patriotic service to all.
http://www.legion.org/flag/folding
Please explain.
mamatutu
mama to two
There you go. You were vague, but now are attacking. Oh, well. I am not looking to hijack this thread with banter with you. It is a great thread and great food for thought. Have a great rest of the evening. One thing I want to say. I have never called you an idiot. Happy humaning!
Thanks for the backup. I already posted that.
I just got here. I didn't read all the posts before I whipped out my handy dandy linkages.
--signed, Pocket Constitution Bann
I'm not upset over the photo in the least. I love the photo!
mamatutu
mama to two
I just got here. I didn't read all the posts before I whipped out my handy dandy linkages.
--signed, Pocket Constitution Bann
See that's the thing. You should always read a thread before you reply, or you look like, you know. I always read a thread first. Just me. But, I also know a lot about people on this forum, and how they interact with others.
As a retired service member, I don't see anything wrong with the photo, the child being cradled in the flag represents what this country is, a country that will comfort and protect the innocent.
As far as a service member participating in this photo and the flag regulations, lighten up Francis.
As far as a service member participating in this photo and the flag regulations, lighten up Francis.
That's why you look like, you know. :shrug:
Actually, I don't need to see which way the wind is blowing or what answers are more popular before I give my opinions. Your mileage may vary.
mamatutu
mama to two
I hope your steerage continues to blow you into fair winds. Who said anything about popular opinions? I was talking about reading a thread. If members repeat what is already said, it is obvious. Are you related to DoWhat by any chance?
My hub just sent me this from his Marine forum. Thought I would share.
