Politics of Covid 19 Vaccines

TPD

the poor dad
The 'Bashing the Unvaccinated' Narrative Crashes into a Brick Wall






Even liberal reporter Michael Tracey highlighted how the data set in one of the most Democratic cities in the country shreds the hesitancy narrative the media has manufactured to go after people they don’t like. Again, these folks aren’t watching Fox News or reading conservative media religiously.








The liberal media is always wrong. that’s the baseline. It may take time for some other narratives but eventually, it all disintegrates after being subjected to facts. Hesitancy is surely among Republicans, but a healthy number of Democrats and Democrat-supporting voter blocs are not getting the shot. In some parts of the country, Trump counties are well ahead of some blue ones with regards to vaccination. It’s not a clear-cut narrative, though more Democratic Party allied groups, like teachers’ unions, are also coming out against COVID vaccine mandates.

It’s amazing the reach that Fox News has. 90 million adults have not been vaccinated yet the most watched show on Fox is Tucker Carlson who only averages about 2.5 million viewers per night. That math doesn’t add up.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Democrats Are Bringing Back Segregation




FACT-O-RAMA! Lefty news tried to suggest that Trump supporters are leading the charge against the vaccine, but it turns out black folks are the least likely to bend their knees and raise their sleeves. They also tend to vote Democrat. Latinos are reticent, too.

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Many lefties, perhaps even de Blasio, don’t seem to understand why many black people aren’t keen to get the shot. Weird what happens when the country injects syphilis into 400 black guys to “see what happens.”






Or when Puerto Rican women are duped into playing guinea pigs with experimental birth control pills.

Segregation?

If black and brown people choose not to get vaccinated, and thus can’t go into a restaurant, is it segregation? Are non-vaxxers choosing to be outcasts? No. If the vaccine and masks work, why does de Blasio care if people are vaccinated? This isn’t about keeping people safe–it’s all about control. If the China flu is so dangerous that de Blasio won’t eat a burger next to the filthy, unvaccinated masses, why is his president allowing hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants, many of whom are COVID positive, into the United States and then spreading them around the country like human parmesan?
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Some of the unions are lining up to tell members not to get one.


I think the UNION Leadership is holding out for a payday .... from what I have seen

vaccine mandates need to be discussed at bargaining

As I See it ' Pay us to get the JAB'
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Psaki Admits They Have 'Guidelines' They've Given to Private Businesses to 'Police' Proof of Vaccination






That’s how they get around not having a federal mandate, they just go through the backdoor and try to push behind the scenes, shaming everyone into it, hoping to create social pressure to have businesses, schools and organizations make it mandatory.

Today, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said perhaps a little more than she intended to say, revealing that they actually had “guidelines” that they were talking with private businesses in how to “police” requiring vaccine passports/proof.





First, Psaki repeated what Biden said that they supported the concept. Then she went further. “We want to ensure that it’s done in a transparent way, that it’s in an equitable way, that if there are verification requirements — it can be done digitally, there are a range of ways to provide the information — so there are basic guidelines along those lines that we have conveyed and that we will continue to convey.”

So no, we’re not instituting a national mandatory vaccine passport. We’re just encouraging businesses to do it and telling them how we think it should be done. But we’re not really doing it. Meanwhile, as they try to slip this stuff past us and claim that restrictions are for our “own good,” illegal aliens from all over the world are pouring through the Southern border at a record pace, increasing each month that Biden has been in office, and Psaki also had to admit that some of those folks are positive for the Wuhan coronavirus.


 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
CNN Fires Three Employees For Coming To Work Unvaccinated: ‘Zero-Tolerance Policy’


“EVERYONE from news, sports and studios who comes in now and going forward must be vaccinated. We have been clear about this for months, so there should be no confusion,” Zucker wrote in the internal memo.

“In the past week, we have been made aware of three employees who were coming to the office unvaccinated. All three have been terminated,” Zucker wrote. “Let me be clear — we have a zero-tolerance policy on this.”

CNN’s termination of the three employees is one of the first examples of a major company firing workers who violated the company’s vaccination mandate, the Times reported. Details on the fired employees, such as their names, which departments they were in, or how their vaccination status came to light, were not covered in the memo.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
White House Mulls Withholding Federal Funds From Companies That Don't Force Employees to Get Vaccinated


Forcing companies to do the government’s dirty work on a vaccine mandate is underhanded, but it’s Biden’s only choice if he thinks everyone needs to get vaccinated. A vaccine mandate has no chance of being successful.

There’s a question of who will be targeted by the government. Currently, the discussions are about targeting large institutions like senior care centers and universities, but no industry is safe.


Washington Post:

There is a particular focus in the discussions on whether restrictions on Medicare dollars or other federal funds could be used to persuade nursing homes and other long-term-care facilities to require employees to be vaccinated, according to one of the people familiar with the talks.
If the Biden administration goes forward with the plans, it would amount to a dramatic escalation in the effort to vaccinate the roughly 90 million Americans who are eligible for shots but who have refused or have been unable to get them.
The discussion at the highest level of government also signals a new phase of potential federal intervention as the White House struggles to control the delta variant of the virus, which is spreading more rapidly than even some of the more dire models predicted.
 

herb749

Well-Known Member
I heard a radio show host saying Biden should step up with : get a vaccine or go to jail.

He wasn't being serious but I'm sure the dems have thought about it.
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
I heard a radio show host saying Biden should step up with : get a vaccine or go to jail.

He wasn't being serious but I'm sure the dems have thought about it.
That wouldn't work because they were turning loose criminals form jail because of the virus.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Deputy Sheriffs’ Union Warns Members Will Quit Or Retire Over San Francisco’s Vax Mandate


The San Francisco Deputy Sheriffs’ Association (SFDSA) made the announcement on Facebook, saying a mandate for city employees in high-risk settings to be immunized by September 15 could affect public safety if deputies choose to vacate their jobs.

Many sheriff’s deputies are stationed at city jails, where large numbers of incarcerated people are often housed in close proximity.

According to the SFDSA, approximately 160 out of 700 deputy sheriffs are not vaccinated. The union said they would prefer to wear face coverings and be subjected to weekly testing “due to religious and other beliefs.”
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
No, a Vaccine Mandate Is Not Like Requiring Seat Belts


Mainstream bioethics thinking is growing increasingly authoritarian. Princeton’s notorious utilitarian philosopher Peter Singer now joins Ezekiel “Mandate” Emanuel in an internationally syndicated column urging that everyone be legally required to take the COVID jab.

Singer justifies this imposition by comparing the proposal to laws that require people to wear seat belts in cars. From, “Why Vaccination Should be Compulsory:”

We are now hearing demands for the freedom to be unvaccinated against the virus that causes COVID-19. Brady Ellison, a member of the United States Olympic archery team, says his decision not to get vaccinated was “one hundred percent a personal choice,” insisting that “anyone that says otherwise is taking away people’s freedoms.”
The oddity, here, is that laws requiring us to wear seat belts really are quite straightforwardly infringing on freedom, whereas laws requiring people to be vaccinated if they are going to be in places where they could infect other people are restricting one kind of freedom in order to protect the freedom of others to go about their business safely.
 

TPD

the poor dad
White House Mulls Withholding Federal Funds From Companies That Don't Force Employees to Get Vaccinated


Forcing companies to do the government’s dirty work on a vaccine mandate is underhanded, but it’s Biden’s only choice if he thinks everyone needs to get vaccinated. A vaccine mandate has no chance of being successful.

There’s a question of who will be targeted by the government. Currently, the discussions are about targeting large institutions like senior care centers and universities, but no industry is safe.


Washington Post:
I don't get any federal assistance for my store so that won't affect me. I do get federal funds for the farm so that could affect me, but I don't have any employees - all 1099 so that won't affect me either.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
This Is 1938: First, They Came for the Unvaccinated


Now Democrats want American citizens, not illegal aliens, not criminals, but patriots born in this country, to produce papers 24/7. We'll need papers to enter restaurants, bars, nightclubs, concerts, casinos, conventions and hotels and to board a train, plane or bus. We'll need papers to enter a supermarket, or we'll starve to death. All for the crime of being unvaccinated against ... wait for it ...

The flu.

All for the crime of being unwilling to inject an untested, rushed to production, experimental, "for emergency use only" shot into our bodies.

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By the way, this isn't about vaccines. If you want the vaccine, take it. I'd never stop you. I'd never limit your freedom, your choice. This is about vaccine mandates -- forcibly injecting Americans who don't want it. That's 1938.

But there's much more in common with 1938. Mask mandates. If you're scared, wear them. I'm not scared. I don't want to wear them. Mandates are about forcing individuals to lose their freedom, choice, individuality and human rights. That's 1938.

Lockdowns are a match with the Warsaw Ghetto. Jews were locked down. Jews couldn't work. Jews couldn't travel. Jewish businesses were labeled "nonessential."

If government can force us to close our businesses, to kill our jobs, to decide who is nonessential, then this is 1938.

Stars on clothing. It's coming. The vaccinated get into restaurants, bars, concerts, supermarkets, planes and trains. They keep their jobs. The rest of us are marked as "subhuman" for life. That's the star. That's 1938.

Media and social media as the public-relations wing of the government. That's called propaganda. Remind you of 1938? Back then, the Jews' books were burned. Today, it's those of conservatives, patriots and specifically the unvaccinated. We are silenced. Our facts are labeled "misleading." Only the facts that agree with big government's agenda count. That's 1938.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Rand Paul Blasts 'Obscene' Suggestion Unvaccinated Should Be Placed on No Fly List



"Obscene. If we now disagree in our personal medical decisions with the left, they're going to declare that we're terrorists and can't fly? But even on the practicality of it, even if you said 'okay, we're going to do this,' even the CDC says you're not supposed to get vaccinated if you've been infected within three months. So what are you going to do? Tell people they can't fly for three months according to the CDC," Paul said during an interview with Fox News. "I and other doctors actually think the your immunity from being infected is going to last a lot longer...I do believe natural immunity should be taken into account. But even according to the CDC this idiot would have us not flying for three months so it makes no sense. It is complete collectivism."

"These are the same people who hooted and hollered and said, 'Trump is leading us to authoritarianism.' What could be more authoritarian than the no-fly list for people who disagree with you?" he continued.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Taxi Company Refuses Service to Vaccinated, Masked Customers




"We don't allow any type of masks in our vehicles," Yo Transportation owner Charlie Bullington told KMOV in an interview. "The second one, we're very against the vaccines, and we do not wish to have people in our vehicle that did the vaccines."

Bullington said that, prior to pickup, he verifies that his passengers have not been vaccinated and will be wearing a face covering.
 

Monello

Smarter than the average bear
PREMO Member
Enough debates. Just go out and get it already. It protects you, your family, and everyone in the community. It's been scientifically, mathematically, and statistically proven to make everyone safer. The communities that got them are overwhelmingly safer. The chances of side effects or accidents are so unbelievably small that it's completely absurd to not get one already. Quit being selfish, quit arguing online, and go purchase a firearm!
 
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