Smokers Unite!

[Bustem' Down]

EVERYTHING is smoking related If they are smoker's, it's smoking related, non smoker's-second hand smoke related and I'm not even a medical person

 

[PsyOps]

But non-smokers get lung cancer as well. My great-grandmother died of lung cancer and she didn't smoke nor was she ever smoked around because she was allergic to it.

So she obviously got her lung cancer from something other than cigarette smoke. And my question is, how do you determine (with a smoker) that they got their disease from smoking and not from the same source as the non-smoker? Just because they smoked doesn't mean that's what caused their cancer, otherwise non-smokers would never get it.

Come on Vrai... are you denying that you raise your risk of lunk cancer by a huge margin if you are a smoker? Dana Reeve (Christopher Reeve's wife) died of lung cancer and was not a smoker. The linked article has another link in it that explains lung cancer and some stats:

Lung cancer is the most common type of cancer. Despite the improvement in treatments, about six in 10 people with lung cancer die within one year of being diagnosed.
More than 80 percent of lung cancer cases are attributed to smoking. However, like Dana Reeve, one of five women diagnosed never smoked.

Dana Reeve was a singer who sang in several venues that would put her in places filled with second-hand smoke. So, even though she wasn't a smoker, someone that is routinely exposed to second-hand smoke is a smoker.

 

[PsyOps]

That wasn't the point of her post. You're a smart guy. Try again.

This was the original point of the start of this thread.

 

[mAlice]

More than 80 percent of lung cancer cases are attributed to smoking.

And what we're asking is how they know this. How do they tell the difference in the lung cancer of smoker from a non smoker? Why is everyone having such a hard time understanding this question? It's perfectly clear to me.

 

[mAlice]

This was the original point of the start of this thread.

Then don't quote people if you're not really responding to that post.

 

[aps45819]

Dana Reeve was a singer who sang in several venues that would put her in places filled with second-hand smoke. So, even though she wasn't a smoker, someone that is routinely exposed to second-hand smoke is a smoker.

Quite the leap from "sang in several venues that would put her in places filled with second-hand smoke"
to being "routinely exposed to second-hand smoke"
Did she sing in slezy bars?

 

[Azzy]

My dad has heart disease (had a triple bypass) and my aunt just found out she has stage 4 lymphoma that originated in the lungs. Both smoked for decades. I cry for them but the emotional pain they are putting their family through can't be defined. I have watched my dad's health go to pot and is nearly completely dependent on my mom. My aunt will die a painful slow death while the rest of the family has to watch. This doesn't even address the insurance nightmare they are going through.

These folks may believe it's their right to do this, but it's not their right to drag their family through this trauma.

My dad had a 7 way bypass and my grandmother died from cancer. Neither of them smoked :shrug:

 

[ylexot]

Dana Reeve was a singer who sang in several venues that would put her in places filled with second-hand smoke. So, even though she wasn't a smoker, someone that is routinely exposed to second-hand smoke is a smoker.

From one of your quotes:

However, like Dana Reeve, one of five women diagnosed never smoked.

How do you explain the others? Perhaps they are simply predisposed for lung cancer...

 

[Azzy]

Put em away before I smack em out the back of your head

 

[Azzy]

Come on Vrai... are you denying that you raise your risk of lunk cancer by a huge margin if you are a smoker? Dana Reeve (Christopher Reeve's wife) died of lung cancer and was not a smoker. The linked article has another link in it that explains lung cancer and some stats:



Dana Reeve was a singer who sang in several venues that would put her in places filled with second-hand smoke. So, even though she wasn't a smoker, someone that is routinely exposed to second-hand smoke is a smoker.

see Vrai, what did I tell you? If you smoke, its smoking related, if not, its second hand smoking related JFC I'm so smart, I amaze myself

 

[Azzy]

And what we're asking is how they know this. How do they tell the difference in the lung cancer of smoker from a non smoker? Why is everyone having such a hard time understanding this question? It's perfectly clear to me.

I understand the question but the answer is that they dont need to tell the difference because it is ALL smoke related :shrug:

 

[Bustem' Down]

I understand the question but the answer is that they dont need to tell the difference because it is ALL smoke related :shrug:

That statement is about as dumb as saying Bush caused Katrina.

 

[vraiblonde]

Why is everyone having such a hard time understanding this question? It's perfectly clear to me.

Thank you. I sometimes wonder if I've stopped speaking English and just don't realize it.

 

[Bustem' Down]

In related news, the Supreme Court has thrown out a $79.5 million punitive damages verdict against cigarette maker Philip Morris, The Associated Press reports. I'm waiting for CNN to get the article up and running to read.

 

[mAlice]

Thank you. I sometimes wonder if I've stopped speaking English and just don't realize it.

I wish you'd tell Azzy to take her silliness elsewhere. Why do you allow her to pollute every freakin' thread in the forums?

 

[vraiblonde]

In related news, the Supreme Court has thrown out a $79.5 million punitive damages verdict against cigarette maker Philip Morris, The Associated Press reports.

Well, of course that's because the Supremes are all in the pocket of Big Tobacco. Bush picked them all, you know, just so this sort of travesty of justice could occur.

 

[Bustem' Down]

I wish you'd tell Azzy to take her silliness elsewhere. Why do you allow her to pollute every freakin' thread in the forums?

It's her thread? :shrug:

 

[Azzy]

That statement is about as dumb as saying Bush caused Katrina.

He didn't? I thought he did it so he could go fishing with his dad in the aftermath? Didn't you see that picture?
<img src="http://z.about.com/d/urbanlegends/1/0/A/C/gone_fishing.jpg">http://forums.somd.com/search.php?searchid=3611789

Bush is the antichrist

 

[mAlice]

It's her thread? :shrug:

It was her thread. It's been hijacked by people who are having a serious discussion.

 

[Azzy]

I wish you'd tell Azzy to take her silliness elsewhere. Why do you allow her to pollute every freakin' thread in the forums?

It's mine and if you don't like it, you're more than welcome to GTFO